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To: american colleen
I agree with you however, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, hence we have problems!

It's near to impossible to believe something like that and still be a Catholic. The revelation to us of the second Person as Logos assures us that beauty, subtlety, economy, order, and reason are all godly attributes. Hence their absolute qualities. When God created the world and saw that it was good, he wasn't expressing some arbitrary, idiosyncratic opinion.

The unreflective acceptance and canting repetition of such sentiments as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is an assertion of radical relativism. It's a reflection of the fallen, alienated world in which we live and is about as far as you can get from the redemption, in which all things are made right in Christ.

83 posted on 09/18/2003 6:51:50 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
Here I am stating the case of the progressives... it's what I listen to and hear all the time. A return to the "simple, early Christian Church" etc. I'm being the devil's advocate, I guess. I learn more that way.

Someone recently said that Mahony's Cathedral in LA will be old fashioned in the near future. The ceramic "tree of life" chalice and ciborium used by my parish priest is already hopelessly outdated as well. Typical 70s hippy stuff.

But traditional beauty will and always has lasted for centuries and people know that in their hearts. Notre Dame vs. Mahony's Cathedral.

84 posted on 09/18/2003 6:59:27 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Romulus; american colleen; Desdemona
The unreflective acceptance and canting repetition of such sentiments as "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" is an assertion of radical relativism

As a corrollary, the Church abhors the concept of "ars pro gratia artis" which detaches art from Beauty, Truth, Goodness, and Holiness--the ONLY qualities which make art 'art'...

85 posted on 09/18/2003 7:25:33 AM PDT by ninenot (Democrats make mistakes. RINOs don't correct them.--Chesterton (adapted by Ninenot))
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