[rogator]

"they would be embarrassed to take them to Mass at their parish."

I have been there, so I got these folks started in a Portland parish with a traditional choir. Unfortuately our bishop, one of Bernardin's boys, and his liberal minions put the skids under the choir last year.
I hate (I wish I knew a stronger word) the drivel that is sung in our parish and I refuse to sing any of the inane, irreverant and sometimes heretical garbage in our OCP songbook.

[JNB]

Have you tried Holy Rosary parish in Portland yet? Where I live I go to a similar parish that is ran by the Dominicans, no OCP or GIA hymnals, Collegeville is used, no altar girls, no female lectors, no EMEs and communion rail is still used. People I have talked to all have given Holy Rosary the highest marks, and since the Dominicans run it, what the bishop can do is limited.

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

A female friend who converted is finding it dizzying to no end how many different heterodox, heretical, or just plain weird phenomena she encounters in American Catholicism.