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To most traditional conservatives I know, David Frum's article was right on the money and people like Lew Rockwell, Justin Raimondo and Pat Buchanan remain fringe wingnuts. Bob Novak skirts the issues too often and is an isolationist at heart.

I know the paleocons and libertarians see it differently. That's why together they comprise less then 1% of the voting public. Sour grapes is right.

Most of the paleos I know of that are anti-war are in no way anti-American. It is very possible to oppose a war, even one against a brutal SOB like Saddam, and still love your country and support our military. The difference between the paleos and the left is that although the paleos oppose going to war, they still want our troops to be victorious. They want us to stay out of the war because they believe that on balance it is not good for America, but they definately don't want us to lose a war. The left on the other hand opposes the war because it is being led by a conservative and they want America to lose because their political battles are more important to them than the country.

Lew Rockwell's site is as anti-American as any
could be.
http://www.lewrockwell.com

Lew stated that we should "unilaterally disarm" in
the following.

"May History Judge Harshly"
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/just-war-interview.html

In his "Defeatists and Disfattisti," Kevin Beary, of
Italy, presents the old Mussolini regime and its
situation then as being similar to the USA and our
situation now.

Defeatists and Disfattisti
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig3/beary2.html

That's all I've read so far, but the various story
titles would put any conservative off.

So for what cause are groups such as this pushing for
the destruction of America? I know, but instigating a
learning path for others is the better way. Suffice to
say that the USA is nothing like Mussolini's or today's
Italy--much the moral opposite, virtually. And our
President is the polar opposite of Mussolini.
Augustine's outdated, secular philosophies need not
apply. ...remember what people of all religious
persuasions from the USA did to Mussolini's regime?
...remember the physical odds and presumptions just
before the Six Day War?

It's a good thing all this is beginning to go out.
Mr. Frum hit a chunk of mother load for tactical
planning, even though he fell into the trap of using
the words (paleo-, neo-, etc.) of linguistic activists
of the insidious left and crypto-Nazis (same thing,
lately). Now, to make use of the keywords,
"renaissance americans." ...very interesting but
desperate looking lot of linguistic activism being
launched and relaunched at conservative fire guards
like David. The disseminations to come from this will
be awesome.

Remember that when the social left (regardless of
agreement about free markets) speaks from forums
and media of the right, she won't bluntly state her
opinion. She'll only insinuate it. And if guilt fits
each member of a bag of like commentators, they'll
wear it.

This one's hillarious!

LewRockwell.com and the Annoying Paleos
http://www.punchthebag.com/archive/archives_06-02-02.html#spike0529

And the visit from Homer Simpson (mentioned behind the URL
above)? You've just seen it. Some wanted attention, and
now they have it. Ohhhhhhh, bo-o-o-thuh,
aaayyyyyyy? ...looks like we (of coahse, thuh royahl
wuuuueeee, yuh know) have something new to do for
awhile. The piece behind the URL above is funny.

[Homer tips his feathered hat in a comical, long, wild
arc, arm extended all the way, touching the ground,
sniffs snobbishly, jerks, falls, and plays dead.]

On the More Serious Side

If you've read the stuff at Rockwell's site, it's
anti-defense and much worse. All of the pieces
I've read by his writers so far (even the type
on a long leash from overseas, frayed from this
end) were written to help the enemy. They will
eventually, even the exceptionally indirect pieces
that only bash the USA and our President, get some
of our kids killed overseas or encourage the enemy
to kill people in the USA.

So enjoy your French wine while you can, writers
for Rockwell (ref. to another column there). It is
the blood of our sons and daughters.

There can be no excuse for supporting any of those
writers.

I couldn't help but start digging for the why of this
episode. Then I found that others are already doing so,
having found the "'anti-federalist paper' by Lew Rockwell,
calling on all Catholics to stand against the evil US
Government" (Michael D. Shaw, "The Drums Of War And Those
Who Hear Them").

"Christian Theory of Just War Iraq and Kosovo"
(paper mentioned by Mr. Shaw, above, by Lew Rockwell)
http://iraqwar.org/justwar.htm

How absolutely nasty. And at least one of them claims to
be Jewish through insinuation and omission. The ghost of
Mussolini rises again with his various other followers,
this time for the radical Islamist world, in all of his
clownish insidiousness. So that's were the idiotic
references (as the rest of Augustine's History will
show) to "Just War" have been coming from. Good old
"no-reasonable-person-would-believe-in-any-circumstances-that"
Augustine, who started anew, the ancient Roman practice
of getting converts by torturing them to death.

This gets more interesting every day.