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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Chief Cochise - Feb. 2nd, 2004
http://www.geocities.com/~zybt/warriors.htm ^ | Paul R. Machula

Posted on 02/02/2004 12:00:23 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: Matthew Paul
Morning Matt.

I grew up playing Cowboys and Indians too. It was later when I started reading history that I realized the Indians weren't the "bad guys".

My Dad is a big time "American West" fan. He can never get enough of Cowboy movies and TV shows.
61 posted on 02/02/2004 10:52:02 AM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: SAMWolf
Morning.
Had the 50 cal guy, but his barrel always drooped.
And had the grey German army set too.
But they always met their end upon the M80 block buster fuse detonation land mines in the mud.
62 posted on 02/02/2004 10:54:17 AM PST by Darksheare (The voices in YOUR head are talking to ME!)
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To: Darksheare
I had the Germans too only mine were grey. Lost a lot of my guys to flame throwers (lighter fluid). 1 1/2 inch fire crackers didn't damage them too much.
63 posted on 02/02/2004 10:59:35 AM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: SAMWolf
Lost a lot of my guys to flame throwers (lighter fluid)

WD-40 and a lighter. Worked wonders.

64 posted on 02/02/2004 11:02:21 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Spirit/Opportunity~0.002acres of sovereign US territory~All Your Mars Are Belong To US)
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To: SAMWolf
My German set usually ended up blown into tiny bits..
But, that's how it went.
"Herr fuhrer! The field is mined!"
"Nonsense stupkhoff! Go defeat them!"
"Yes Mein Fuhrer! *Kaboom!* Aiiiiieeee!"
Outside of mud pit: Umm.. did you see where he flew to?
Response: Nope. Did you?
First voice: Unh-unh.
At same time: Darn. More men!
65 posted on 02/02/2004 11:04:47 AM PST by Darksheare (The voices in YOUR head are talking to ME!)
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To: Professional Engineer
I didn't know about WD-40 back then. ;-)
67 posted on 02/02/2004 11:30:57 AM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: Matthew Paul
"Dances with Wolves" is the only good Kevin Costner movie I've seen. Most John Wayne movies treated the Indians a lot better than most movies of that time
68 posted on 02/02/2004 11:33:29 AM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: SAMWolf
LOL I seem to remember Aqua Net hairspray(red can) seemed to work just as well too.
69 posted on 02/02/2004 11:34:18 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Spirit/Opportunity~0.002acres of sovereign US territory~All Your Mars Are Belong To US)
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To: Professional Engineer
AquaNet I remember :-)
70 posted on 02/02/2004 11:35:29 AM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: HiJinx
Cool! thanks for the link!
72 posted on 02/02/2004 12:22:38 PM PST by PsyOp (Note to Jihadists: I profile and carry a gun.)
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To: SAMWolf; Professional Engineer
Aerocroil worked.
"The Oil that Creeps!"
73 posted on 02/02/2004 12:34:07 PM PST by Darksheare (The voices in YOUR head are talking to ME!)
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To: Matthew Paul
We have our share of Socilaists and Communist here too, they just haven't been able to take complete control yet, but they're trying.
74 posted on 02/02/2004 12:35:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: snippy_about_it; All
The word "Apache" comes from the Yuma word for "fighting-men". It also comes from a Zuni word meaning "enemy". The Zuni name for Navajo was called "Apachis de Nabaju" by the earliest Spaniards exploring New Mexico. They called themselves Inde, or Nide "the people".

The Apaches are well-known for their superior skills in warfare strategy and inexhaustible endurance. Continuous wars among other tribes and invaders from Mexico followed the Apaches' growing reputation of warlike character. When they confronted Coronado in 1540, they lived in eastern New Mexico, and reached Arizona in the 1600s. The Apache are described as a gentel people; faithful in their friendship.

Apaches belong to the Southern Athapascan linguistic family.

They are composed of six regional groups:

Western Apache - Coyotero - most of eastern Arizona which include the White Mountain, Cibuecue, San Carlos, and Northern and Southern Tonto bands.

Chiricahua - southwestern New Mexico, southeastern Arizona, and adjacent Mexican states of Chihuahua and Sonora - The band was the informal political unit, consisting of followers and a headman. They had no formal leader such as a tribal chief, or council, nor a decision making process. The core of the band was a "relative group," predominantly, but not nessarily, kinsmen. Named by the Spanish for the mescal cactus the Apaches used for food, drink, and fiber. The basic shelter of the Chiricahua was the domeshaped wickiup made of brush. Similar the Navajo, they also regarded coyotes, insects, and birds as having been human beings; the human race, then, but following in the tracks of those who have gone before.

Mescalero - Faraon - live east of the Rio Grande in southern New Mexico, with the Pecos River as their eastern border

Jicarilla - Tinde - southeastern Colorado, northern New Mexico, and northwest Texas - During their zenith in the SouthWest, two divisions of the Jicarilla Apache were known: the Llanero, or "plains people," and the Hoyero, the "mountain people." They roamed from central and eastern Colorado into western Oklahoma, and as far south as Estancia, New Mexico. As a result of their eastern contacts, the Jicarilla adopted certain cultural traits of the Plains Indians, as did the Mescalero who also ranged the eastern plains.

Lipan - occupy territory directly to the east of the Jicarilla

Kiowa - Gataka - long associated with the KIOWA, a Plains people, range over the southern plains of Colorado, Oklahoma, and Texas.

HISTORY

Early Apache inhabitants of the southwestern United States were a nomadic people; some groups roamed as far south as Mexico. They were primarily hunters of buffalo but they also practiced limited farming. For centuriesthey were fierce warriors, adept in desert survival, who carried out raids on those who encroached on their territory.

The primitive Apache was a true nomad, a wandering child of Nature, whose birthright was a craving for the warpath with courage and endurance probably exceeded by no other people and with cunning beyond reckoning. Although his character is a strong mixture of courage and ferocity, the Apache is gentle and affectionate toward those with his own flesh and blood, particularly his children.

he Apache people (including the Navajo) came from the Far North to settle the Plains and Southwest around A.D. 850. They settled in three desert regions, the Great Basin, the Sonoran, and the Chihuachuan.

They were always known as 'wild" Indians, and indeed their early warfare with all neighboring tribes as well as their recent persistent hostility toward our Government, which precipitated a "war of extermination," bear out the appropriateness of the designation.

The first intruders were the Spanish, who penetrated Apache territory in the late 1500s. The Spanish drive northward disrupted ancient Apache trade connections with neighboring tribes.

When New Mexico became a Spanish colony in 1598, hostilities increased between Spaniards and Apaches. An influx of Comanche into traditional Apache territory in the early 1700s forced the Lipan and other Apaches to move south of their main food source, the buffalo. These displaced Apaches began raiding for food.

Apache raids on settlers accompanied the American westward movement and the United States acquisition of New Mexico in 1848. The Native Americans and the United States military authorities engaged in fierce wars until all Apache tribes were eventually placed on reservations.

Most of the tribes were subdued by 1868, except for the Chiricahua, who continued their attacks until 1872, when their chief, Cochise, signed a treaty with the U.S. government and moved with his band to an Apache reservation in Arizona.

The last band of Apache raiders, led by the chief Geronimo, was hunted down in 1886 and was confined in Florida, Alabama, and finally Oklahoma Territory.

75 posted on 02/02/2004 1:51:30 PM PST by SAMWolf (If I save the whales, where do I keep them?)
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To: HiJinx
Thanks for the Cochise info at the Foxhole Jinxy.
76 posted on 02/02/2004 2:06:56 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
I never used my flamethrower in the house...

Gee, how thoughtful of you. LOL.

77 posted on 02/02/2004 2:07:47 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Good afternoon PE.
78 posted on 02/02/2004 2:08:51 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Yippee, I learned how to make reports from our database today with some new software....Whatever. You know those classes where you "get it" in the first 10 minutes but the class is 4 hours long. LOL.

Good tagline today Sam.
79 posted on 02/02/2004 2:12:43 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: stand watie
Good afternoon stand watie.
80 posted on 02/02/2004 2:14:38 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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