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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - M109 155mm SP Howitzer Series - Sep. 14th, 2004
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Posted on 09/13/2004 11:37:20 PM PDT by SAMWolf



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M109 155mm Self Propelled Howitzer




In January 1952, a conference in Washington DC on the subject of self-propelled artillery indicated an urgent need for improved self-propelled artillery. Preliminary concept studies began for a self-propelled howitzer to replace the existing 155mm M44. The first designs in August 1952 for the new vehicle, designated the Howitzer 156mm Self-Propelled T196, were rejected, as were additional studies presented in September 1953. At a conference in May 1954, a concept was finally approved.

In June 1954, a review of the military characteristics of the entire self-propelled program decided that future concepts of the T196 would be prepared along the design proposed for the Howitzer 110mm Self-Propelled T195, which was already in production. In June 1956, it was decided to use the basic hull and turret of the T195 but the original 156 mm howitzer was replaced by a 155 mm howitzer after NATO had standardized this caliber in 1956.



In October 1956, the mockup of the T196 was reviewed and verbal authority was given to proceed with development of the first prototype. The main differences from the T195 were power elevating and turret traverse mechanisms, different ammunition racks and two spades at the rear of the hull. The first prototype of the T196 was completed in 1959, about six months later than the 105 mm T195. During preliminary User Evaluation at Fort Knox a number of failures occurred in the suspension. The prototype differed from later vehicles in that it had a different shaped hull and turret, the seventh roadwheel acted as the idler and it was powered by a Continental petrol engine.

In 1959 a policy was established that diesel rather than petrol engines would be used for future combat vehicles and the prototype of the T196 was then fitted with a diesel engine and redesignated the T196E1. In February 1961, an order was placed for two T196E1 preproduction vehicles which were delivered within six months. After further trials the T196E1 was classified as a Limited Production Type in December 1961.



In October 1961, a letter order was given to the Cadillac Motor Car Division for one year's production of the T196E1 at the Cleveland Army Tank Plant. The first production vehicles were completed in October 1962. In January 1963, an extension was authorised to continue the classification of Limited Production.

In July 1963 the T196E1 was classified as standard A and designated the Howitzer, Medium, Self-Propelled: 155 mm, M109. Early in 1963, a contract was awarded to Cadillac for the second year of production. The contract for the third year of production, awarded in December 1963, went to the Chrysler Corporation, although production remained at the Cleveland Army Tank Plant. The first M109s were issued to the US Army in June 1963.



The 155-mm M109 series, Self-propelled medium howitzers are highly mobile combat support weapons. They are air transportable in phase III of airborne operation. They have a cruising range of 220 miles at speeds up to 35 miles per hour. Combat loaded, The M109 series weighs 27.5 tons. The 155-mm projectile weights 98 pounds.

The M109 series howitzer is a vehicle that provides armored combat support, is air transportable, internally loaded, and has excellent ground mobility. It allows firing in a 360 degree circle through its primary armament, the 155mm cannon assembly, and its secondary armament, the M2 heavy barrel caliber 50 machine gun. The system is capable of both direct (line of sight) and indirect (out of the line of sight) firing.



The M109 has a crew of six, consisting of commander, gunner, three ammunition members and the driver. The hull is made of all-welded aluminium armour. The driver is at the front of the hull on the left, the engine is to his right and the turret is at the rear. The driver has a single-piece hatch cover that opens to the left, with three M45 periscopes in front that can be covered by small metal flaps to prevent damage. The commander is seated on the right side of the turret and has a cupola that can be traversed through 360°, a single-piece hatch cover that opens to the rear and an M27 periscope. Pintle mounted on the forward part of the commander's cupola is a 12.7 mm (0.50) M2 HB - also local defence machine gun. The gunner is seated on the left side of the turret and has a square single-piece hatch cover that opens to the right.

The all-welded aluminium armour turret at the rear of the hull has a square hatch in each side that opens to the rear, and twin doors in the turret rear. Twin doors are provided at the rear of the turret for ammunition resupply. Mounted at the rear of the hull, each side of the hull door, is a large spade which is lowered manually to the ground before firing.



The Detroit Diesel engine is coupled to an Allison Transmission XTG-411-4A cross-drive transmission which is at the front of the hull. The torsion bar suspension consists of seven dual rubber-tyred roadwheels with the drive sprocket at the front and the idler at the rear. There are no track-return rollers. The tracks are of the single-pin, centre guide type with replaceable rubber pads.

The M109 is fitted with night vision equipment but did not have an NBC system prior to the introduction of the M109A4. The basic vehicle can ford to a depth of 1.828 m without preparation. It can be fitted with an amphibious kit consisting of nine air bags, four each side of the hull and one at the front. The bags, which are not carried on the vehicle as part of its normal equipment, are inflated from the vehicle and it can then propel itself across rivers by its tracks at 6.43 km/h.

In the American army, the M-109 is deployed at 54 units per armoured division and mechanized division (3 battalions of 18 vehicles equipping 3 batteries of 6 M-109).

The M109 was the first model, with a very short barrel, double baffle muzzle brake, large fume extractor, and a maximum range of 14,600m. The M109A2/A3/A4 howitzers uses M185 cannon and achieves a range of 23,500 meters. The replacement of the 23 caliber long barrel with the M284 cannon 39-caliber barrel on the M109A5/A6 increased the range capability to 30,00 meters. The M109 Family of howitzer continues to improve at considerable cost savings for the customer.



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M109A1



The M109A1 featured a new longer barrel, and various other improvements, with a maximum range of 18,100m. The M109 was the first model, with a very short barrel, double baffle muzzle brake, large fume extractor, and a maximum range of 14,600m.

M109A2

The M109A2 is a new production weapon which incorporated 27 mid-life improvements to the M109A1. The improvements provide for increased Reliability, Availability, and Maintainability (RAM) and safety characteristics as well as enhanced operational capabilities.

Major changes from the M109A1 include a redesigned rammer and improved recoil mechanism, engine operation warning devices, a redesigned hatch and door latches, an improved hydraulic system and a bustle designed to carry an additional 22 rounds of ammunition.



The M109A2 has the long tube M185 cannon installed in the M178 gun mount. The cab has a rear bustle rack which provides an increased ammunition stowage capacity. It has an all weather ballistic shield mounted over the panoramic telescope; counterbalanced travel lock and provisions for mounting the M140 alignment device.

The M109A2 entered production at BMY Combat Systems in 1978, with first deliveries made early in 1979. The first production quantity of 103 vehicles was with FY77 funding. M109A2 pro 36 M109A2s were produced for the National Guard using FY82 funds

M109A3



The M109A3 is a depot converted M109A1 incorporating the 27 mid-life improvements. The operational characteristics of the M109A3 are virtually identical to the M109A2. Some M109A3s have three contact arm assemblies: all M109A2 have five contact arm assemblies.

M109A4

The M109A4 is a M109A2/A3 improvements include the addition of Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical/ Reliability, Availability, and Maintainability (NBC/RAM) product improvement kits. The driver and cannoneer no. 2 have an air purifier and two heaters mounted in the hull. An air purifier and four heaters are mounted in the cab for the rest of the crew. NBC Mission Oriented Protective Posture (MOPP) gear is stored in the new cannoneer seats and stowage boxes.



The traversing mechanism is operates with a hydraulic clutch in the M109A4 instead of operating with an electric clutch as in the traversing mechanism in the M109A2/A3 howitzers. A clutch valve with an override valve provides for power traversing in the event of an electrical failure to the clutch valve solenoid. The M109A4 has two hydraulic filters mounted outside of the power pack. The M109A2/A3s have one internal hydraulic power pack filter.

The M109A4 has a combat override switch to allow for emergency starting. The slave start receptacle has been moved from the battery compartment to the driver's compartment. The M109A2/A3 100 amp alternator has been replaced by a 180 amp alternator. Crew compartment subfloor drains have been added to provide for the drainage of DS2 used in the NBC decontamination process and provide for the drainage of excess water.

M109A5



The M109A5 is a modified M109A4 it consists of two major improvements: a new M284 cannon and a new M182 gun mount. These improvements provide the M109A5 with greater range and allow for sustained fire for prolonged periods of time.

Over 950 existing M109s have been rebuilt as the M109A6 Paladin. The Paladin configuration is achieved through extensive modifications to existing M109A2/A3 vehicle hulls and the subsequent introduction of an entirely new turret structure. The remaining M109 howitzer fleet has received the M109A5 upgrade, which included some of the same automotive and crew NBC protection improvements as well as the Paladin's M284 cannon and M182 gun mount.

M109 International Variants





On 24 May 2000 the government of Egypt requested a possible sale of 279 M109A2/A3 155mm self-propelled howitzers, support equipment, spare and repair parts, publications and technical data, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. government and contractor engineering and logistics personnel services, and other related elements of logistics support. The estimated cost was $48 million. Egypt will use these howitzers to replace aging Soviet towed artillery and to complement the modernization of the M1A1/M60A3 divisions.
1 posted on 09/13/2004 11:37:21 PM PDT by SAMWolf
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M109A6 Paladin


The M109A6 Paladin is the latest advancement in 155mm self-propelled artillery. The system enhances previous versions of the M109 by implementing onboard navigational and automatic fire control systems. Paladin has both a Kevlar-lined chassis and a pressurized crew compartment to guard against ballistic, nuclear, biological, and chemical threats.



The Paladin M109A6 howitzer is the fourth product improvement to the original M109 self-propelled (SP) howitzer. It features improvements in the areas of survivability; reliability, availability, and maintainability (RAM); responsiveness; and terminal effects. The M109A6 is an armored, full tracked howitzer carrying 37 complete conventional rounds and two Copperhead projectiles. It is operated by a crew of four. It is designed with a new turret structure that facilitates integration of the various turret improvements and vulnerability reduction measures. It improves overall crew compartment layout and space. The howitzer can travel at a maximum speed of 38 miles per hour and has a maximum cruising range of 186 miles.

The M109A6 is the most technologically advanced cannon in the Army inventory. This weapon has a 4 man crew, and weights approximately 62,000 lbs/32 tons, and has a cruising range of 186 miles, Max speed is 35 MPH, It has a fuel capacity of 133 gals. The Paladin can operate independently, from on the move, it can receive a fire mission, compute firing data, select and take up its firing position, automatically unlock and point its cannon, fire and move out - all with no external technical assistance. Firing the first round from the move in under 60 seconds, a "shoot and scoot" capability protects the crew from counterbattery fire. The M109A6 Paladin is capable of firing up to four rounds per minute to ranges of 30 kilometers. The Paladin features increased survivability characteristics such as day/night operability, NBC protection with climate control and secure voice and digital communications. The crew remains in the vehicle throughout the mission.



The Paladin is designed to accept new technologies increasing firing range, rate of fire, and accuracy. TACOM-ARDEC, in order to maintain the state-of-the-art in artillery technologies, is continuing to develop enhancements adaptable to Paladin, such as a 52 caliber gun, Modular Artillery Charge System (MACS), and a laser ignition system.

The Paladin is an example of equipment bridging the gap between current systems and those planned for the future. It dramatically increases the responsiveness, survivability and flexibility of self-propelled cannon artillery. Adding advanced technology to a 1950s chassis, the Paladin begins a revolution in the way the field artillery fights. Using computers, the Paladin can determine its own position on the ground and compute its own firing data. Single-channel ground-air radios permit voice and digital communication with the platoon's operation center and with other howitzers in the platoon.



The most significant operational differences between the M109A6 howitzer and prior M109 series howitzers are the Paladin's ability to operate over a widely dispersed area and to move and emplace using the Paladin technology. The Paladin can move and position within an assigned position area, process technical firing data, and fire a mission without relying on aiming circles and wire lines. Target acquisition and engagement parameters (tactical fire control) are provided by the Paladin platoon's battle command facility, the platoon operations center (POC). The automatic fire control system (AFCS) and single-channel ground and airborne radio system (SINCGARS) frequency modulation (FM) radios change the current requirements for surveyed firing points, aiming circles, and land lines.

In the past, communications wire had to be manually strung between the vehicles and the fire-control center. Without the need for wire communications, the Paladin can change position more frequently, an advantage against enemy fire. Such advancements give new meaning to the artillery's ability to move, shoot and communicate. The Paladin's technology reduces the time soldiers are vulnerable to enemy fire. Every time you fire a round, the enemy can zero in on your position and fire back. If you take too long to get out of there, you're probably going to get killed.



In the past, it would take about 20 minutes to prepare a firing position and another 15 to 20 to displace. It was very manpower-intensive to emplace the battery before. A five-man crew served each of the six howitzers in the battery. Surveyers calculated the battery's location, and crew members ran communicaitons wire by hand. The gun sections each had a guy who would run the wire to the fire-direction center, and when it was time to displace, he would have to go down to the fire-direction center, unhook the wire and roll it up. It didn't take soldiers long to figure out that that's not a good way to do business if you want to stay alive.

New technology allows cutting that wire link from the fire direction center, which limited how far one could disperse the howitzers on the battlefield.



Technology also increases speed. The Paladin's top speed of 38 mph makes it slightly faster than the M-109A3. The Army beefed up the engine and transmission, and installed some new technologies -- an on-board fire control system, on-board position-navigation system, radios. There is also improved ballistic protection on the howitzer and on-board prognostics and diagnostics to help diagnose when there is a problem.

The Paladin/FAASV program entails a major product improvement and re-engineering effort - begun in 1979 - to upgrade the U.S. Army's primary self-propelled long-range howitzer, designated the M109 series. Range, lethality, reliability, speed and mobility were all limitations of this 1950's design, as was the lack of onboard navigation/location and nuclear, biological and chemical protection for the crew. The new Paladin closes the technology gap in response to the requirements of the U.S. Army Soldier. These "shoot and scoot" requirements, were translated into engineering requirements and specifications that updated or replaced every subsystem of the vehicle.



The first 164 Army Paladin systems were manufactured under a September 1991 LRIP contract, resulting in FUE status in April 1993. The subsequent full-scale production (FSP), multiyear contract covered 630 howitzers. Additional options for 83 systems and a follow-on order for 73 Paladins brought the total number of units produced under FSP to 786. Production of 950 Paladin vehicles and 927 FAASV vehicles has been completed.June 25th, 1999 marked the end of Paladin's Full Rate Production. By the end of 2001, the Army provided 950 (164 LRIP + 786 FSP = 950 M109A6s) defect-free Paladins and 927 defect-free FAASVs. The Army received a FY 2000 congressional plus-up for an additional 7 Paladin vehicles for continued Army National Guard modernization, with deliveries scheduled for January 2002. It is believed that Army National Guard planners may seek funding for additional M109A6 upgrades in the coming fiscal years.

The Paladin was delivered into the capable hands of US Army and National Guard Field Artillery units in accordance with a detailed schedule that included advance Materiel Fielding Team customer familiarization, new equipment training for both officers and enlisted personnel, and all of the associated logistics, spares, manuals, trainers and testing devices for the weapons system.

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2 posted on 09/13/2004 11:38:10 PM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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M992A2 FAASV
Field Artillery Ammunition Supply Vehicle


The The M992A2 series Carrier, Ammunition Tracked Vehicle (CATV) / Field Artillery Ammunition Support Vehicle (FAASV) accompanies the M109A6 and completes the howitzer section. The CATV has a crew of five. The M992A2 is a full-tracked, aluminum armored, ammunition resupply vehicle with a hydraulic powered conveyor for single-round transfer of ammunition. The M992A2 is comparable to the M109A6 in terms of speed, mobility, and survivability. In addition to ammunition handling equipment, the CATV features projectile rack assemblies and storage compartments; a diesel powered auxiliary power unit used to drive the hydraulic system and recharge vehicle batteries; and an automatic fire extinguisher system (AFES).



The M992A2 Field Artillery Ammunition Support Vehicle (FAASV) is the firing-position partner for the M109A6 Paladin and other M109 series self-propelled howitzers. It provides timely, efficient, armor-protected ammunition delivery to cannon artillery systems during both firing and non-firing conditions.

Able to carry a 12,000-pound (5,454 kg) ammunition payload, the FAASV can be configured for various ammunition needs and specifications. A 50-caliber machine gun is part of the FAASV's defense. Artillery cargo and crew are protected from fire threats by separate Automatic Fire Suppression in both crew and engine compartments.



An 11.5-horsepower auxiliary power unit provides power support to the FAASV in the field, enabling it to move any type of towed howitzer at a maximum forward speed of 40 mph (64 km/h) and a reverse speed of 7 mph (11.3 km/h). The same Low Heat Rejection engine used in the M109A6 Paladin provides cold start capability and high horsepower for the vehicle, enabling the FAASV to keep pace with artillery forces.

The M109A6 basic load is 37 complete conventional rounds and two Copperhead rounds. The CATV basic load is 96 conventional rounds and four Copperhead rounds. The CATV may average one to five rearming moves per day in addition to tactical and survivability moves. A section, consisting of a howitzer and a CATV, normally operates as one of three sections in a platoon but may operate alone in a fire area.



Field Artillery Ammunition Support Vehicle is a field artillery weapons (M109A2 self-propelled class) in terms of speed, mobility, and survivability. This full-tracked, self-propelled, diesel-powered vehicle is a highly mobile and maneuverable. It is capable of long-range, high-speed operation on improved roads. It is also well-suited to rough terrain, muddy or marshy ground, sand, snow, and ice. The M992 can also for can also ford waterways where maximum depth is 42 inches.


3 posted on 09/13/2004 11:39:00 PM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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4 posted on 09/13/2004 11:39:18 PM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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5 posted on 09/13/2004 11:39:43 PM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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6 posted on 09/13/2004 11:52:37 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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148 posted on 08/24/2004 11:39:45 AM PDT by Cannoneer No. 4 (I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)

Cannoneer, we miss you. Stay safe.
7 posted on 09/13/2004 11:54:08 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Mobile Redleg Bump for the Freeper Foxhole. Nothing better than "Shoot and Scoot" capability

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8 posted on 09/14/2004 2:45:48 AM PDT by alfa6 (They have a preview function, Oh yeah)
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Oh the memories this brought back. I was in M109 battalions for about 8 of the 12 months I was in Vietnam. First was the 1st Bn, 27th FA and then 2nd Bn, 35th FA. In 1/27 I was a base camp warrior at Cu Chi, but when the 25th ID left country and no longer needed them in the GS role, yes a 155mm in a GS role, I was moved to A Btry, 2/35. I was with that great unit from November 1970 until they left country in May 1971. A Btry had the honor of firing the last round of the battalion in Vietnam. I was not a cannon cocker, I was the mechanic that kept the "hogs" shooting.

On my return to Ft Hood from Germany in 1983, I was assigned to 3rd Bn, 3rd FA in the great 2nd Armored Division as the maintenance technician, again keeping those "hogs" shooting, although this was for a REFORGER and NTC rotations along with several ARTEPS.


9 posted on 09/14/2004 2:57:00 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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Sorry to have missed you on the ping. Not enough coffee yet to do a good proof read.


10 posted on 09/14/2004 2:58:52 AM PDT by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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Good morning, Snippy and everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.


11 posted on 09/14/2004 3:04:06 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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Copperhead round

Most interesting fount of information. Fascinating reading how the systems were developed and modified.

One question tho for a non-artillery person - what is a copperhead round used for? I have some of the Osprey and similar books on tanks and other systems, but I could not quickly find a reference.

My brother is in a mechanized brigade being called up out of Mississippi. They don't seem to have any of these, but nonetheless I've become a bit more interested in such information.

12 posted on 09/14/2004 3:15:31 AM PDT by capocchio (A country serious about its securiy is serious about its military)
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September 14, 2004

Jesus' Very Own Peace

Read: Matthew 16:21-23

My peace I give you. —John 14:27

Bible In One Year: Proverbs 19-21; 2 Corinthians 7


On the eve of the execution of Christian martyr Nicholas Ridley (1500-1555), his brother offered to stay with him in the prison to be of comfort. Ridley declined, saying that he planned to sleep as soundly as usual. Because he knew the peace of Jesus, he could rest in his Lord.

The next morning, Ridley told a fellow Christian who was also being executed, "Be of good heart, brother, for God will either assuage the fury of the flame, or else strengthen us to abide it." Then they knelt and prayed by the stake and, after a brief conversation, were burned to death for their faith.

Jesus had given Nicholas Ridley His peace (John 14:27). But what kind of peace did Jesus have? In Matthew 16:21-23, we see His peace in His determination to go to Jerusalem even though He knew He would suffer and die (see Luke 9:51). Peter rebuked Him, but Jesus trusted His Father and went to the cross. His purpose for living was to die.

Amy Carmichael said, "The peace of Jesus stood every sort of test, every strain, and it never broke. It is this, His very own peace, which He says 'I give.'"

No matter how big or small our trials may be, we can trust Jesus to give us His very own peace in the midst of them. —Anne Cetas

For Further Thought
How can we be at peace with God? (Romans 5:1-2).
How do we find peace in our trials? (Philippians 4:6-7).
Have you experienced Jesus' peace?

When Jesus rules the heart, peace reigns.

13 posted on 09/14/2004 4:26:15 AM PDT by The Mayor ("A life lived for God will count for eternity.")
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Present!


14 posted on 09/14/2004 5:05:46 AM PDT by manna
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1stPJP Samwise, reporting for duty, ma'am!

15 posted on 09/14/2004 5:42:29 AM PDT by Samwise (Kerry's convoluted speaking style correlates with his convoluted thought processes.)
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Good ThreadHead Tuesday everyone!

16 posted on 09/14/2004 6:18:08 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Poetry is my forte.)
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Good morning ladies. Flag-o-gram.


RABS RECOGNIZED Lt. Gen. William J. Lennox Jr., superintendent[USMA], accepts the Commandant's Cup from Jerry Dilettuso, president of the National Spirit Group, to recognize the achievements of the Army Rabble Rousers. The Rabs earned this distinction with their outstanding performance at the National Cheerleading Competition held in Daytona Beach this summer. The Rabble Rousers will be out in force this weekend to cheer on the Army Football team at their season opener against Louisville Sat., Sept. 11, 1 p.m. (Photo by David Dominick/Dept. of Law)

17 posted on 09/14/2004 6:21:10 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (I'm a TreadHead, She's a TreadHead, wouldn't you like to be a TreadHead too?)
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On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on September 14:
1486 Agrippa von Nettesheim German occultist/alchemist/royal astrologer
1742 James Wilson Scot/US judge/signer (Declaration of Independence)
1769 Baron Freidrich von Humbolt, German naturalist and explorer who made the first isothermic and isobaric maps.
1819 Henry Jackson Hunt Bvt Major General (Union Army), died in 1889
1835 Joseph Hayes Bvt Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1912
1838 John Pelham Major (Confederate Army), died in 1863
1849 Ivan Pavlov Russia, physiologist/pioneer in psychology
1864 Lord Cecil of Chelwood UK, help form League of Nations (Nobel 1937)
1867 Charles Dana Gibson illustrator, drew "Gibson Girl"
1879 Margaret Sanger feminist/nurse/birth control proponent
1887 Stanley "Midnight Assassin" Ketchel HW boxing champ (1908-10)
1899 Hal Wallis movie producer (Maltese Falcon, Barefoot in the Park)
1907 A Cecil Snyder Chief Justice of Puerto Rico
1908 Clayton Moore Chicago Ill, actor (Lone Ranger)
1913 Jacobo Arbenz president of Guatemala (1951-54); overthrown by CIA
1914 Kay Medford NYC, actress (Dean Martin Show, To Rome With Love)
1920 Bud Palmer Hollywood Calif, NBAer (NY Knicks)/sportscaster
1921 Hughes Rudd TV newscaster (CBS)
1924 Jerry Coleman 2nd baseman/sportscaster (NY Yankees)
1925 Robert Webber Santa Ana Calif, actor (Nuts, Pvt Benjamin)
1928 Albert Shanker American labor leader (Amer Fed of Teachers)
1933 Zoe Caldwell Australia, actress (Prime of Miss Jean Brodie)
1934 Kate Millett St Paul Minn, feminist/author (Sexual Politics)
1938 Nicol Williamson Scotland, actor (Excalibur, Robin & Marian)
1938 Walter Koenig Chicago Ill, actor (Checkov-Star Trek, Bester-Babylon 5)
1944 Joey Heatherton Rockville Center NY, dancer/actress (Bluebeard)
1947 Jon "Bowser" Bauman Queens NY, singer (Sha Na Na)
1948(?) A baby found on an Oregon beach a dead half eaten tiger shark in his mouth. Named Brian "68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub" Marotta. Is reported to tell his mother the lovely Mrs Marotta "I want to go too Viet-Nam and kill me some commies." It has also been rumored that Stalin had a fainting spell, and John kill em all Kerry was reported to say he to will go too Viet-Nam and be a HEro.
1956 Joe Penny London, actor (Gangster Wars, Riptide, Jake & the Fatman)
1959 Mary Crosby LA Calif, actress (Kristin-Dallas, Ice Pirates)
1963 Antonia Real Spain, 400m freestyle (Olympic-1976)
1964 Faith Ford Louisiana, actress (Another World, Corky-Murphy Brown)
1970 Satoshi Kojima wrestler (NJPW)



Deaths which occurred on September 14:
0258 Thascius C Cyprian, Saint/Bishop of Carthage, dies at 58
0407 Johannes Chrysostomus, patriarch, dies
1146 Imad ad-Din Zengi gov of Basra, murdered
1321 Dante Alighieri dies of malaria just hours after finishing writing Paradiso.
1646 Robert Devereux, 3rd earl of Essex, dies under Queen Elizabeth's headsman
1759 Louis Montcalm French general (Plains of Abraham), dies at 47
1788 John Penn US attorney, signed (Decl of Independence), dies at 47
1836 Aaron Burr 3rd VP, dies
1852 Arthur Wellesley General/Duke of Wellington, dies at 83
1862 Jesse Lee Reno Union general-major (Reno Nevada), dies at 39
1862 Samuel Garland Jr US Confederate brig-gen, dies in battle
1901 Pres William McKinley dies in Buffalo, of gunshot wounds inflicted
by an assassin. VP Theodore Roosevelt became president
1927 Isadora Duncan dies as her scarf became entangled in her car's wheel
1966 Gertrude Berg actress (Molly Goldberg-The Goldbergs), dies at 66
1981 [Walter] Furry Lewis father of blues, dies at 88 of a heart attack
1982 Bashir Gemayel Lebanon's president-elect, killed by a bomb
1982 Grace Kelly princess of Monaco, dies at 52 in a car crash
1984 Janet Gaynor actress, dies at 77 from a traffic accident
1996 Juliet Prowse, actress/dancer (Mona McCluskey), dies at 59


Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1965 TAYLOR NEIL BROOKS RANGELEY ME.
1966 STODDARD CLARENCE W. JR CORPUS CHRISTI TX.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0891 Stephen V ends his reign as Catholic Pope
1515 Battle at Marignano ends in French/Venetian victory
1629 Spanish garrison surrenders to prince Frederik Henry
1628 Salem, Mass., was founded.
1666 St Paul's in London destroyed by fire
1716 1st lighthouse in US lit (Boston Harbor)
1741 George Frederick Handel finishes "Messiah" oratorio
1752 England & colonies adopt Gregorian calendar, 11 days disappear
1776 The British Army entered New York City after defeating the Americans, under Gen. Washington, at the Battle of Long Island.
1812 Napoleon occupies Moscow

1814 Francis Scott Key inspired to write "The Star-Spangled Banner"

1847 US Marines under General Scott enter Mexico City (halls of Montezuma)
1848 Alexander Stewart opens the 1st US dept store
1856 Battle of San Jacinto, Nicaragua defeats invaders
1862 Battle at Crampton's Gap: Union troops chases away Confederates
1862 Battle at South Mountain: Union troops chases away Confederates
1862 Battle of Munfordsville KY
1862 Federal troops escape from beleaguered Harpers Ferry West Virginia
1862 Skirmish at Mountain MD (Boonesboro, Crampton's Gap, Fox's Gap)
1872 Britain pays the US $15,000,000 for damages during Civil War
1886 George K Anderson of Memphis, Tennessee patents typewriter ribbon
1891 "Empire State Express" train goes from NYC to East Buffalo, a distance of 436 miles, in a record 7H6M
1899 Henry Bliss becomes 1st automobile fatality (NY)
1901 Vice President Theodore Roosevelt is sworn in as the 26th President of the United States upon the death of William McKinley, who was shot eight days earlier
1903 NY Giant Red Ames no-hits St Louis, 5-0 in a 5 inning game
1916 Christy Mathewson pitches & wins his final game
1917 Provisional government of Russia established, Republic proclaimed
1919 British regime bans Sinn Fein
1923 Miguel Primo de Rivera becomes dictator of Spain
1930 Detroit Lions (as Portsmouth Spartans) play 1st NFL game, win 13-6
1930 Nazis gain 107 seats in German election
1933 2 billion board feet of lumber destroyed in Tillamook Oregon fire
1938 Graf Zeppelin II, world's largest airship, makes maiden flight
1940 Congress passes 1st peace-time conscription bill (draft law)
1942 Battle of Edson's Ridge (Japanese assault) at Guadalcanal
1942 German army began their siege of Stalingrad.
1948 Gerald Ford upsets Rep Bartel J Jonkman in Mich 5th Dist Rep primary
1948 Groundbreaking ceremony for the UN world headquarters
1948 Milton Berle starts his TV career on Texaco Star Theater
1954 Hurricane Edna (2nd of 1954) hits NYC, $50 million damage
1956 1st prefrontal lobotomy performed, Washington DC(I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy)
1957 UN resolution deplores & condemns USSR invasion of Hungary (USSR retreats out)
1960 Coup under Col Joseph-Desire Mobutu in Congo
1960 Chubby Checker's "Twist" hits #1
1960 Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi-Arabia & Venezuela form OPEC
1963 Mary Ann Fischer, Aberdeen, SD, gave birth to America's 1st surviving quintuplets, 4 girls & a boy
1964 Walt Disney awarded the Medal of Freedom at the White House
1965 "F-Troop" premiers
1966 Operation Attleboro, designed as a training exercise for American troops, becomes a month-long struggle against the Viet Cong.
1967 Melville Abrams Ball Field in the Bronx named
1968 1st broadcast of "60 Minutes" on CBS-TV
1968 USSR's Zond 5 is launched on 1st circumlunar flight
1969 Males of Swiss canton Schaffhausen rejects female suffrage
1971 Cleve Indians & Wash Senators, play 20 innings
1972 West Germany & Poland establish diplomatic relations
1972 "Waltons" TV program premiers
1973 Israel shoots down 13 Syrian MIG-21s
1973 Pres Nixon signed into law a measure lifting pro football's blackout
1974 Charles Kowal discovers Leda, 13th satellite of Jupiter
1975 Mother Elizabeth Ann Bayley Seton canonized as 1st US-born saint
1979 Theodore Coombs completes 5,193 mile roller skate from LA to NYC & back to Yates Center, Ks
1981 Entertainment Tonight premiers on TV
1982 The grand dragon of the Ku Klux Klan's Invisible Empire of Florida announced that he was moving the group's headquarters from Orlando to Gainesville. Why? Because, he said, it's "a progressive community, and we think we can fit in."
1982 36" snow (Red Lodge, MT)
1982 Trevor Baxter sets skateboard high jump record of 5' 5.7"
1983 US House of Representatives votes, 416 to 0, in favor of a resolution condemning Russia for shooting down a Korean jetliner
1987 Oriole Cal Ripken Jr sets record of playing 8,243 inn in 910 games
1987 Toronto Blue Jays hit a record 10 HRs vs Baltimore Orioles
1989 Calgary Flames become 1st NHL team to play in USSR, win 4-2
1990 Ken Griffey, Sr & Jr, hit back-to-back HRs in 1st inning
1991 The government of South Africa, the African National Congress and the Inkatha Freedom Party signed a national peace pact.
1993 Katherine Ann Power "peace activist"/fugitive for more than 20 years in the death of a police officer during a bank robbery in Boston -- surrendered. She later pleaded guilty and was sentenced to eight to 12 years in prison.
2000 President Clinton said he was "quite troubled" by the way the Energy and Justice departments had handled the Wen Ho Lee case, and he expressed his regrets.
1996 Tara Dawn Holland of Kansas was crowned "Miss America."


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Medieval South France Annual Fair of Ax-lesson-Thermes
Nicaragua : Battle of San Jacinto (1856)
Pakistan : Jamat Ul-Wida
US : National Anthem Day (1814)
US : National Boss/Employee Exchange Day
US : National MIA POW recognition day
National Housekeepers Week Begins
National Papaya Month


Religious Observances
Ang, RC, Luth : Memoria of the Exaltation Holy Cross Day
Orth : Beginning of the Orthodox church year (9/1 OS)


Religious History
1741 German composer George Frederick Handel, 56, finished composing his oratorio, "The Messiah." He wrote the score, start-to-finish, in only 24 days, subsisting primarily on coffee.
1765 Anglican clergyman and hymnwriter John Newton wrote in a letter: 'How unspeakable are our obligations to the grace of God.'
1918 The Evangelical Lutheran Joint Synod of Wisconsin, Ohio and Other States was formed from the merger of several smaller synods. In 1930 this denomination merged with two other synods to form the American Lutheran Church (ALC).
1927 Bob Jones University opened in Greenville, South Carolina, and eighty-eight students registered for the first fall term.
1975 (Mother) Elizabeth Ann Bayley Seton (1774-1821) was canonized by Pope Paul VI, making her the first native-born American citizen to become a saint in the Roman Catholic Church.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.



Thought for the day :
"Show affection, it will probably meet with pleasant response."


Translating Southern United States Slang to English...
TARRED - adverb. Exhausted.

Usage: "I just flew in from Hot-lanta, and boy my arms are tarred."


How Many Dogs Does it Take to Change Light Bulb?
Boxer: Who cares? I can still play with my squeaky toys in the dark.


Politically Correct Terms For Males...
He does not have : A NICE BUTT
He is a : WELL-ROUNDED INDIVIDUAL


What's Your Business Astrological Sign?...
ACCOUNTING
The only other sign that studied in school. You are mostly immune from office politics. You are the most feared person in the organisation; combined with your extreme organisational traits, the majority of rumours concerning you say that you are completely insane.


18 posted on 09/14/2004 6:26:24 AM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: alfa6

Morning alfa6.

Fire for effect!!


19 posted on 09/14/2004 6:49:48 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: SLB
Good morning SLB.

Welcome Home.


20 posted on 09/14/2004 7:01:38 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: E.G.C.

Morning E.G.C. looks like it may be clear today.


21 posted on 09/14/2004 7:02:15 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: Professional Engineer

Good morning, PE!! Thank you for the Flag-o-gram.

Army Rabble Rousers- now that's a name I really like!


22 posted on 09/14/2004 7:03:09 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Poetry is my forte.)
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To: capocchio
Probably more than you wanted to know

The M712 Copperhead projectile was the first smart artillery round ever developed. Its accuracy is measured in centimeters, and its lethality is impressive. Copperhead is a cannon-launched, 155mm artillery projectile which guides itself to a laser-designated target. The munition is capable of defeating both armor and point targets at ranges of over six kilometers, and provides the battlefield commander with the unparalleled capability of utilizing artillery to the same effect as direct fire weapons and close air support. The system was employed during Operation Desert Storm, during which it met with great success. Copperhead projectiles were used to destroy observation and border guard posts and forward radar installations during the first week of artillery attacks.

The cannon-launched guided projectile (CLGP) M712 (Copperhead) is a 155-mm, separate-loading, laser-guided, HE projectile. It is heavier (137.6 pounds) and longer (54 inches) than the standard 155-mm projectile. The M712 projectile consists of three main sections: a guidance section (forward), warhead section (center), and control section (rear). The guidance section contains the seeker head assembly and the electronics assembly. The nose of the projectile houses a laser seeker in a plastic cone. The warhead section contains an HE antitank warhead consisting of 14.75 pounds of composition B. The control section includes the fins and wings that deploy in flight and allow the round limited maneuverability.

The trajectory of the Copperhead projectile is similar to that of a conventional round. Only when the projectile reaches a point on the descending branch of the trajectory does it differ. At that point, on the basis of the two-digit timer setting included in the fire commands, the guidance and control systems are activated. This enables the projectile to alter the remainder of its trajectory.

At 20 seconds from impact, the laser designator operator begins designating the target. The ground laser operator may use a G/VLLD, a laser target designator (LTD), or modular universal laser equipment (MULE). Airborne systems include the AH-64, OH-58D, and unmanned aerial vehicles. The Copperhead projectile acquires the reflected laser energy and initiates internal guidance and control, allowing it to maneuver to the target.

The ground surface area in which the round can maneuver is limited. The optimum limits of maneuverability of the Copperhead round is called a footprint. The size of the footprint is determined by the range and the shape of the trajectory, but it can also be affected by cloud height. The ballistic aimpoint is usually short of the target location sent by the laser designator operator. The distance that the ballistic aimpoint is short of the target location varies and is called the offset correction. This offset distance is used to ensure that the maximum probability of hit occurs at the original target location sent by the observer. The larger the target location error, the lower the probability of hitting the target.

23 posted on 09/14/2004 7:06:32 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: The Mayor

Good Morning Mayor.


24 posted on 09/14/2004 7:07:15 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: manna
Hi Manna!


25 posted on 09/14/2004 7:07:41 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: Samwise

Morning Samwise.


26 posted on 09/14/2004 7:09:38 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: bentfeather

Hi Feather. All dressed up for today. :-)


27 posted on 09/14/2004 7:10:07 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: Professional Engineer

Morning PE.

Congrats to the Rabble Rousers.


28 posted on 09/14/2004 7:11:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: Valin
1814 Francis Scott Key inspired to write "The Star-Spangled Banner"

Gave proof through the night,
that our Flag was still there


29 posted on 09/14/2004 7:17:27 AM PDT by SAMWolf (13 Witches in a hot tub - a self-cleaning coven!)
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To: SAMWolf

Yupper, I'm getting better bout remembering to get my tank out!! LOL


30 posted on 09/14/2004 7:21:41 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (Poetry is my forte.)
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To: 1stFreedom; Cannoneer No. 4; Redleg Duke; SAMWolf; archy; I got the rope; 300winmag; ...

FAMPL ping.
Freeper Foxhole Treadhead Tuesday, a look at the M109 series SP howitzer.


31 posted on 09/14/2004 7:22:12 AM PDT by Darksheare (CBS: Arrogance and Hubris personified)
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To: SAMWolf; capocchio

At picatinney Arsenal's on post museum, there's a section dedicated to Copperhead and it's predecessor.
From what the display said, copperhead was a reworked Naval artillery shell.
The Naval variant apparently did not go forward, leaving Copperhead as the sole dog left standing.
The Naval version had the fins folding the other direction, and from what I saw, that was the only difference.


32 posted on 09/14/2004 7:40:30 AM PDT by Darksheare (CBS: Arrogance and Hubris personified)
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To: snippy_about_it; All
GM, snippy!

i heard from duckie & "judyjudyjudy" for the last time until Saturday next about 1030 last night. the boat was about to sail.

can you believe it costs TEN DOLLARS a MINUTE to call to/from the ship and 80 cents a minute to email????

instead of emailing me, duckie will SHOP!

LOL.

free dixie,sw

33 posted on 09/14/2004 7:41:05 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Good morning, Foxhole! Falling in right on schedule for once.

Great unit patch, by the way .. may wind up wallpaper :)

Hope you are all doing well!


34 posted on 09/14/2004 7:44:50 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (Someone needs to register CBS as a 527.)
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To: SAMWolf

The Origins of the "American Attitude"


Major George Armistead, the commanding officer at Fort McHenry requested a flag "... so large that the British will have no difficulty in seeing it from a distance..." to be flown over the Fort. (You looking for me? I'm over here!!!)
On Sept. 13, 1814, Francis Scott Key visited the British fleet in Chesapeake Bay to secure the release of Dr. William Beanes, who had been captured after the burning of Washington, D.C. The release was secured, but Key was detained on ship overnight during the shelling of Fort McHenry, one of the forts defending Baltimore. In the morning, he was so delighted to see the American flag still flying over the fort that he began a poem to commemorate the occasion.
First published under the title "Defense of Fort M'Henry," the poem soon attained wide popularity as sung to the tune "To Anacreon in Heaven." The origin of this tune is obscure, but it may have been written by John Stafford Smith, a British composer born in 1750. "The Star-Spangled Banner" was officially made the National Anthem by Congress in 1931, although it already had been adopted as such by the Army and the Navy.





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The Star Spangled Banner

O say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion,
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when free-men shall stand
Between their lov'd home and the war's desolation;
Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just,
And this be our motto: "In God is our trust!"
And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

http://tsbolton.com/anthem.html


35 posted on 09/14/2004 8:00:25 AM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: alfa6

Shoot and Scoot, always a good idea.:-)


36 posted on 09/14/2004 8:01:13 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: stand watie

Think of ALL the money she'll save you.









Do I really need a sarcasm tag?


37 posted on 09/14/2004 8:02:43 AM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: SLB
..although this was for a REFORGER

For Dan Rather? LOL. Sorry, couldn't resist.

Thank you for your service SLB.

38 posted on 09/14/2004 8:04:43 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

Good morning EGC.


39 posted on 09/14/2004 8:05:13 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: capocchio

Welcome to the Foxhole capocchio. Be sure and tell your brother we appreciate his service and pray he stays safe.


40 posted on 09/14/2004 8:07:42 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

Good morning Mayor. I've been meaning to thank you for providing the links you do. For a lazy person like me it helps. I think I'm too busy to read but you provide a way for me to read some scripture everyday. :-)


41 posted on 09/14/2004 8:10:11 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: manna

Good morning manna.


42 posted on 09/14/2004 8:10:28 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
How Many Dogs Does it Take to Change Light Bulb?
Boxer: Who cares? I can still play with my squeaky toys in the dark.


LOL.
43 posted on 09/14/2004 8:12:57 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Samwise

LOL. I'm thinking someone should create slipper's that look like tanks. I could wear them on Tuesdays. :-)


44 posted on 09/14/2004 8:27:47 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

Good morning feather.


45 posted on 09/14/2004 8:28:09 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Army Rabble Rousers flag-o-gram bump!


46 posted on 09/14/2004 8:29:31 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: stand watie

Wow, that's an expensive phone call. Just think how many shoes that could buy over time. :-)


47 posted on 09/14/2004 8:31:29 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Hi there Colonel. We are well, glad to see you are too. The patch is cool. Can't afford to have them made but I could turn it into a bumper sticker!


48 posted on 09/14/2004 8:33:14 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

"Simple Man!!"
(To be sung to Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Simple Man")

His mama told Bill...when he was young,
"Slick, sit beside me...my eldest son...
My life's been wasted...on boyz who play...
So, please, don't you cheat...you will thank me...GoodGuyz Don't Stray!!
Ah, yes...

Stop spendin' time...with that Hill'ry lass!!
Her legs are stumps...and her A$$ is phat!!
Bill, find a woman...oh, yeah...you truly love...
This Rodham chick, son, is Ol' Chi-ca-go SCUM!!

Slick, Life is simple...have a plan...
Ohh, be someone...folks trust, then yer a Man!!
Willie, be a simple, kindly man.
Oh, won't you do this...for me, Slick...if you can?!

Forsake yer lust...fer the ChinaMan's Gold...
Don't lust fer Power...it corrupts yer soul!!
Slick, you can do this, if you try...
All that I want fer yopu, my son...is to say, "I NEVER LIED!!"

Slick, be a symbol...make yer stand!!
Bill, serve yer Country...if yer called to Viet Nam!!
Willie, Life is simple...fer a Man...
You've been blessed Slick...so give up...those one-night stands!!"

Slick said, "I WILL!!"

(Conservativemusician, BigMan, and DiscoDave jammin' on guitars)

You know the story...Slick loved hisself!!
Bill's Lust Fer Power...eclipsed all else!!
Committed TREASON...bombed babies...and Slick LIED!!
Killed folks in Kosovo, Good Lord, just to cover up his crimes!!

Now Slick's a symbol...I can't stand...
Gotta do something...perhaps, I'll start a band!!
Willie, he's [a] symbol...NewWorldMan!!
Good folks, don't let this...ChiComWhore's...TREASON Stand!!

Willie, yer a simple, weak GirleyMan...
You are "GUILTY!!"...time to pay the Band...

Mudboy Slim


49 posted on 09/14/2004 8:45:36 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Girleymen HATE Bush!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim

Fifty...MUD


50 posted on 09/14/2004 8:46:53 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim (Girleymen HATE Bush!!)
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