The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Operation Niagara (Jan-Mar, 1968) - Mar. 16th, 2005

Vietnam Magazine | 1998 | Peter Brush

[colorado tanker]

So, Westmoreland's plan was the Marines at Khe Sanh basically would be bait to draw the NVA into kill zones for the air power and arty???

It's probably just me, but I've never figured out how McNamara's and Westy's tactics made any sense.

BTW, happy over the hump day to Sam, Snip and all in the Foxhole.

[SAMWolf]

Evening Victoria.

Hi Ya Soldier. ;-)

[SAMWolf]

Yep :-)

[Victoria Delsoul]

Howdy Sam. :-)

[SAMWolf]

The main problem was getting the enemy in the open where they could be killed. The world learned you can't stand up to the American military and win.

[PhilDragoo]

Prayers for Bill and Peggy.

The $1 billion of aerial munitions expended by the United States during the siege totaled almost 100,000 tons.

That $1 billion amounted to 1/6000th of the $6 trillion LBJ wasted on his so-called War On Poverty.

In the hood this WOP would be known as Money Fo Nuthin.

The image of Niagara is apt--if LBJ had been replaced by a Patton-Halsey hybrid which would have gone through the NVA like crap through a goose until Vietnamese became a language spoken only in hell.

Of course war was much tougher than stealing ballot boxes and Johnson chickened out:

President Lyndon B. Johnson ordered severe restrictions on aerial and naval attacks against North Vietnam, declared the readiness of the United States to begin peace discussions to end the war and declined to seek re-election to the presidency.

Flight of the Intruder

In addition to his criminal sanitization of target lists, LBJ refused the Joint Chiefs' request to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong November 1965 as chronicled by their Marine aide in "The Day It Became The Longest War" in May 1996 Proceedings.

So the enemy had a secure supply line, sanctuary in contiguous countries, and the protection of a U.S. president who explained his treason by saying, "I'm trying to teach Ho Chi Minh a lesson without starting WWIII. I'm like the applicant for the schoolteacher position in a small town who answers the school board's question about whether the earth is flat or round by saying, 'I can teach it both ways.'"

Alternate Title: SAM removing old fence posts.

ADSID III

electronic seismic sensor, one of several types dropped by U.S. aircraft along enemy roads and pathways in SEA. It was essentially a radio transmitter that picked up ground vibrations made by enemy trucks and troop movements and transmitted these signals to a friendly intelligence center through an airplane flying overhead. By keeping a record of these transmissions, U.S. personnel were able to determine the rate of enemy activity in any particular area and order an air strike when it became sufficiently promising. Siesmic sensors were designed to stick in the ground when dropped from an aircraft.

Another type of detection device was the acoustic sensor which transmitted the actual sound, not ground vibrations, made by enemy trucks and personnel. It was designed to hang from a tree by its parachute after the drop.

The sensor program, known as Igloo White, went into operation along the Ho Cho Minh Trail in December 1967.

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A covert operation known as Manchurian Candidate was launched Christmas Eve 1968 when President Nixon dispatched John Kill-Em-All* Kerry to Cambodia in an aluminum canoe with an electric trolling motor to troll for votes. As shown on Red Koppel's Nightline in 2004 a large number of retired Communist warriors remembered Kill-Em-All* and were only too happy to do video testimonials to his nuanced positions below the gunwales of that craft, dodging the fierce poison-tipped darts of the C'mere, Rouge.

*Kill-Em-All is a registered trademark of Valin Associates, LLC.

1996 In his weekly radio address, President Bill Clinton accused the Republican-controlled House of bowing to "the back-alley whispers of the gun lobby" by gutting anti-terrorism legislation he'd submitted in response to the Oklahoma City bombing.

"Anti-terrorism" or gun control? I'm the NRA and I eschew back alleys--as assiduously as traitor-rapist42 eschewed our constitution, e.g., the Second Amendment--while allowing his prime donor Wang Jun of Poly to bring 2,000 AK-47s to our nation's underprivileged street gangs.

Besides, Rush Limbaugh did the OKCBomb deal.

Scott, you should have read the memo, dude:

[alfa6]

So, Westmoreland's plan was the Marines at Khe Sanh basically would be bait to draw the NVA into kill zones for the air power and arty???

That was the French plan for Dien Bien Phu. I am not convinced after all that I have read that the NVA was seriously interested in Khe Sanh. I suspect that it was a great "Red Herring" operation intended to draw the Americans away from other areas that the NVA/VC were interested in.

My $.02 YMMV

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

[SAMWolf]

Evening phil Dragoo

That $1 billion amounted to 1/6000th of the $6 trillion LBJ wasted on his so-called War On Poverty.

War on poverty was a joke, it was confiscation of money from the producers and redistribution to the non-producers. We're still paying the price for that today.

Alternate Title: SAM removing old fence posts.

LOL!

[Valin]

It's probably just me, but I've never figured out how McNamara's and Westy's tactics made any sense.

Just a thought here. Maybe they didn't!
As far as ever be able to figure it out we never really did have a plan to win the danm thing.

[Valin]

*Kill-Em-All is a registered trademark of Valin Associates, LLC.

LOL!!!
Actually it's a registered trademark of
the
American
Society
of
Steve's

[snippy_about_it]

Enough Said

Indeed. Great picture.

[snippy_about_it]

McNamara was a sleeze. Having said that I feel better. Happy hump day back atcha!

[snippy_about_it]

Good evening Victoria.

[snippy_about_it]

A bicyclespankentruppen magnet if I ever saw one!

You bet.

[snippy_about_it]

Alternate Title: SAM removing old fence posts.

LOL. You are clever!

[Iris7]

Thanks, Samwise. Bill is a quiet fellow, never upstaging anyone. Always willing to help anyone who needs it. One of the sober type Marines. Family man.

[Iris7]

Thanks, SAM. Bill is a quiet, hard working, decent guy, loyal to his family. Our age. Knows his duty.

[Iris7]

Thanks, snippy.

You would like Bill. He doesn't talk much, though, not outgoing. Manly? You bet.

God knows his name. HE hears your prayer, made out of love.

The odds of the enemy reading this post are small, and a decision to act, if this enemy is reading, smaller yet. Especially because I left the bas____ not one hint.

If you are out there, drop dead.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[tomball]

BTTT!