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The FReeper Foxhole Presents the Saturday Symposium - Women in Combat Arms? - July 16th, 2005
Samwolf's mind

Posted on 07/16/2005 9:33:13 AM PDT by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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Should women be allowed to serve in Combat Arms?




Background for discussion


Wednesday May 11, 2005

Washington AFP

Republicans in the US House of Representatives introduced legislation that would sharply curtail the role of women on the battlefield.

The measure -- a last-minute add-on to a defense funding bill for the upcoming fiscal year-- would remove women from the army combat support units in which they currently serve, and would ban them from such units in the future.

"The majority of Congress believes women should not be engaged in combat-related activities," said Republican Representative John McHugh, chairman of a House of Representatives subcommittee tasked with overseeing military personnel matters.

Women in the US military are currently banned from combat, but often work in support roles on or near the battlefield -- a practice which McHugh and other Republicans said must change.

"Women should be barred from those positions, " he said, adding that only 31 women would be affected by the policy change.

"The current ban on women in combat needs to be preserved," McHugh said at a meeting of the House Armed Services subcommittee.

Opposition Democrats, however, strenuously objected to the measure, saying it would affect many more women than Republicans claim, and could have a negative effect on overall military morale.

"Todya, women are essential to our ability to fight the war in Iraqand the global war on terrorism. If our nation is truly committed to winning these wars and meeting our other defense requirements, we cannot afford to reject the talents of women, who have served so well, " said Representative Ike Skelton, the top Democrat on the Armed Swervices Committee.

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1 posted on 07/16/2005 9:33:15 AM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: vox_PL; Bigturbowski; ruoflaw; Bombardier; Steelerfan; SafeReturn; Brad's Gramma; AZamericonnie; ...



"FALL IN" to the FReeper Foxhole!



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2 posted on 07/16/2005 9:35:12 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

HEY!!! I'm here! Thanks for calling and checking on us. :-)

If Sam ever shuts up I'd love to talk to you, too.


3 posted on 07/16/2005 9:36:18 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good morning Snippy.


4 posted on 07/16/2005 9:36:36 AM PDT by Aeronaut (2 Chronicles 7:14.)
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To: snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer

What can I say, I'm enthralled by a Texas accent. ;-)


5 posted on 07/16/2005 9:39:00 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Morning all.

Oops, used Snippy's machine for #5


6 posted on 07/16/2005 9:41:03 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Why is there a permanent press setting on an iron?)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; All


July 16, 2005

Rest In Peace

Read:
Psalm 4:1-8

I will both lie down in peace, and sleep; for You alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety. —Psalm 4:8

Bible In One Year: Isaiah 28-30

cover A man has created a safety bed which he claims will provide protection against hurricanes, tornadoes, thieves, kidnappers, and terrorists. The inventor's Web site calls it "the safest rest you've ever had."

When a motion sensor detects a threat, the "Quantum Sleeper" automatically folds up around its occupant. Inside the bulletproof canopy, an alarm awakens the protected sleeper, who can spray tear gas on the intruder—or watch a movie on the DVD player while waiting out a storm. Even so, I suspect that not even an armored bed can guarantee a good night's sleep untouched by anxiety or fear.

Psalm 4:4-5 has a three-part recipe for finding peace in a troubled world: When you're angry, don't express it by disobeying God. When you lie down at night, do it in heart-searching silence. Live sacrificially, putting your trust in the Lord. An old hymn affirms this biblical instruction:

Leaning, leaning, safe and secure from all alarms;
Leaning, leaning, leaning on the everlasting arms.

David concluded his psalm, "I will both lie down in peace, and sleep; for You alone, O Lord, make me dwell in safety" (v.8). And that is without a doubt the safest rest we'll ever have. —David McCasland

What have I to dread, what have I to fear,
Leaning on the everlasting arms?
I have blessed peace with my Lord so near,
Leaning on the everlasting arms. —Hoffman

He rests well who rests in Jesus.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
How Has God Loved Us?
The Lord Is My Shepherd

7 posted on 07/16/2005 9:44:05 AM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; All

A mind is a 'errible thing to waste bump for the Saturday Foxhole.

At work back later, maybe, I hope, u never know

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


8 posted on 07/16/2005 9:45:24 AM PDT by alfa6
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf

Mornin' Foxhole.

Along about my third cup of coffee in the morning, I'm scannin' the obits in our local rag.

More and more, I'm seeing women listed who served in the Armed Forces or Rosie the Riveter types.

BTW, we're heading north next month, and if we make it to your area, I'll give you a Howdy. Still working on our itinerary. Got a wedding to attend in La Pine and don't know what else or where we're headed.


9 posted on 07/16/2005 9:53:31 AM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I CAN Face Tomorrow)
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To: Aeronaut
Good afternoon!

Woman in combat Arms?

Personally I'd like women in combat legs!

Are you heading to the EAA Airventure?

We're heading to Maine next week, but will be back early the following week. I am hoping to get their Wednesday or Thursday.

Regards

Jay

10 posted on 07/16/2005 9:55:43 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier)
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To: snippy_about_it

Good afternoon, Snippy and everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.


11 posted on 07/16/2005 10:02:49 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Diver Dave
we're heading north next month, and if we make it to your area, I'll give you a Howdy....Got a wedding to attend in La Pine...

Looks to me like you'd almost have to go right through here if you're driving. We'd love to see you.

12 posted on 07/16/2005 10:06:44 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Oops, used Snippy's machine for #5

Grrrr.

13 posted on 07/16/2005 10:07:29 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Aeronaut

Good morning Aeronaut.


14 posted on 07/16/2005 10:08:23 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

I could have used some of that good sleep last night.


15 posted on 07/16/2005 10:09:44 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

Better today?


16 posted on 07/16/2005 10:10:14 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Since there doesn't seem to be much discussion on the merits, I'll start with a politically incorrect position:

I'll vote 'no' for women in ground combat or onboard ships. It is almost as harmful to good order and discipline as gays in the military. Female pilots are acceptable, and there are many rear area roles which women can perform.
17 posted on 07/16/2005 10:19:37 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; Wneighbor
Good morning ladies. Flag-o-Gram.


18 posted on 07/16/2005 10:20:26 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Dining room, we don't need no stinkin dining room! Classroom space, on the other hand, is valuable.)
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To: snippy_about_it

A little better. Still sneezing though but getting better.


19 posted on 07/16/2005 10:29:40 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: snippy_about_it
OOOooooo, a whole thread about SpankenTruppen!


20 posted on 07/16/2005 10:30:41 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Dining room, we don't need no stinkin dining room! Classroom space, on the other hand, is valuable.)
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