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The FReeper Foxhole - A Journal by Foxhole FRiend & Re-enactor Lee Heggy (2 of 3) - Sep. 29th, 2005
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Posted on 09/28/2005 9:38:12 PM PDT by snippy_about_it



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Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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Then we headed to Athens...continued


Note: This wonderful journal shared with us from Lee Heggy will be covered over a three day period. Please read and enjoy as Lee travels to Athens Missouri for one of his many re-enacting engagements. Thank you so much Lee for being part of our Foxhole family and sharing your tales with us.




Athens (pronounced 'Aythans' Missouri accent on the 'Ay') was established in the 1830's on the Des Moines River. It was a port for regional products of all sorts. A large gristmill was located on the banks to process the sorghum and corn. Honey trees abounded in the dense stands of maple that predominate the area.

The ownership of this valuable resource, (39 cents a gallon/50 cents a pound for wax) along with the taxes thereupon was the excuse for what became known as 'The Honey War'. In the 1830's, the boundary between Iowa and Missouri was in dispute. At the time Missouri had been a state since 1821. Since Iowa was only recognized as a territory, Missouri felt it was their manifest destiny to absorb as much of Iowa as it wished, and attempted to tax the inhabitants. There were two recognized boundaries; one was that established by the French which ceded the little southeastern tail of Iowa to Missouri. The other was the ancient one recognized by the Indian tribes which ran along the Des Moines River to its confluence with the Mississippi.

After much wrangling and hurling of epithets between factions, it looked as though there might actually be bloodshed since the Govenor of Missouri sent several thousand State Militia troops to the area. The Territorial Govenor of Iowa sent out a call for volunteers to defend the sacred soil of Iowa. The Iowegian sheriff of the disputed area was arrested and taken into custody. This brought matters to a head. The Federal Government then decided that enough was enough and stepped in to settle the issue, once and for all. They decreed that the old Indian boundary was the correct one and that was that. Both sides broke camp and departed grumbling. The volunteers of Iowa who were promised pay, received not a dime and the Missouri Militia were upset with their lack of provisioning. It was winter and they were sent with light clothing and inadequate supplies of everything except whiskey. Both sides suffered greatly. Any lives lost were due to the elements and privations of sickness.

Athens is located precisely in this area and it was a center of activity during the so-called Honey War. With this history in mind it was no surprise that Missouri was quick to respond to an incursion by Iowa in early 1861. Troops from Iowa and some pro Union men from Missouri that had been equipped with muskets and drilled with their use and the bayonet established themselves in Athens to recruit for the Union.

At this time Missouri was basically pro Southern in sentiment. The massive infusion of German immigrants had yet to change popular feelings about states rights and slavery. That wouldn't happen until several years later. After the ill-fated Missouri Compromise in the 1850's sparked off the years of 'bleeding Kansas' and the border war raids, large tracts of land were offered to pro-Union immigrants in both Kansas and Missouri. This gradually displaced the Southern sympathizers and changed the voting demographics assuring a pro Union state government in slaveholding Missouri. It reversed a previous vote in Kansas that would have made Kansas a slave state.

Complicated eh? Not only were the citizens of Missouri subject to the shadowy machinations of Washington, they were also subject to the terror of living in dread of the midnight knock on the door. It was a fifty-fifty chance one would answer correctly when asked, "Who is the Govenor of Missouri?" Answer correct and you would merely be robbed. Answer wrong and you would be hung and your house set on fire. We had twenty years of this in Missouri.



Athens is now a ghost town. Where once there were hundreds of fine houses and dozens of thriving businesses there is now only a scattering of structures - some in disrepair and others undergoing slow restoration. The old streets are marked with signposts, and the land is littered with pottery shards. No actual archaeology has been conducted yet, so there are artifacts literally everywhere.

The reason for Athens demise wasn't because of the war. Like most little towns, its life blood was based upon commerce. When the railroad went through Keokuk instead of Athens it was a death blow. A few people still lived in Athens up until about 1910, but the last resident, a 'Widow Grey', passed away in 1923. Except for the hum of the cicadas and the hoot of an owl, the silence was complete.

A cordial reunion...

Leaving the bug lights and stray dogs of Cahoka in the dust behind us, Carl and I continued the nine miles or so to our final destination. We still had plenty of daylight left so we were not in any great haste to get there. Carl pulled over onto the shoulder of the road to take in a magnificent view of the surroundings. A rolling expanse of farmland stretched away to the horizon, with thick wooded patches here and there. Scissortailed flycatchers and swallows darted about over the fields. It was a pastoral scene, worthy of Grant Wood or Thomas Hart Benton. It was one of those moments when you feel the slow, eternal pulse of nature.

I was desirous of a bit of refreshment and dug out our newly acquired supply of bonded beverage. A close examination of the state revenue stamp on the neck of the bottle found it to be of a 1984 vintage. Sales of quarts of Old Cluney must be a bit slow in Cahoka. At least it was a corked bottle and not capped, or I might not have tried the stuff. Pouring a libation into my ever-ready tin cup, I was greeted with a most pungent yet pleasant aroma of peat and smoke. Taking a slow sip of the liquid my tongue fairly burst into flame as I savored the flavor of the nearly twenty year old Cluney. Those twenty years had done much to improve the basic nature of the drink. Not a trace of the usual bite and sting often encountered with less than premium liquors. As I said, it was fiery but still not half-bad. Carl took a tug and pronounced it a most agreeable aperitif, suitable for either the table or the ditch.

Rounding the final corner, we spied the church. It is still in use occasionally for the few locals who conduct funerals, and perhaps a meeting or two. Its the most complete and stable structure in Athens with fresh paint and intact windows. Later I took a look inside and was surprised to see that the ancient pews and pulpit were still installed, along with a gigantic wood/coal stove and Chickering upright piano that was maintained in tune. The attendance board on the wall recorded the congregation's number at fifteen. Below that was a message declaring, "If you want Jesus to talk to you, stop talking to yourself and listen."

We then drove about another two hundred yards and came to the parking area located directly across from a beautiful two story brick house studded with re-enforcing star medallions painted black. The roof was red slate. It looked to be perfectly habitable, but looking through the windows one could see that the flooring was mostly gone. The interior was in need of massive restoration, as well as the removal of many rolls of fencing and other rubbish.



We parked and began to get our kits together. First thing was to remove all trace of modernity - cell phones, wrist watches., sunglasses, ear rings, etc. Then off with our jeans, tee shirts, sneakers, ball caps and nylon socks. Off with the boxer shorts and on with the light cotton button up drawers that go down to the ankle. Then light cotton hand loomed socks pulled up to the knee over the drawers. A pull over shirt of homespun gingham with oyster shell buttons then a well-worn pair of trousers made of striped pillow tick material. Button on braces to the waist of the trousers. I selected a dark brown vest with nine silver buttons. Wind up my pocket watch and chain the fob through the button hole then drop it in a pocket.

Then came the shoes. Mine are conventional brogues (Brogans?) of 1850's style with rawhide lace ups and steel horseshoe heel plates, plus hobnailed soles. My only concession to modernity is that I have arch supports inside them to keep my feet from killing me. Before I started using them it was sheer torture to wear such foot gear for more than a few hours. Give my feet a liberal powdering and slip the brogues (Brogans?) on. Feels pretty good... at first. Next I inspect my haversack, sewing kit, (called a 'housewife'), my reading glasses are an original 1857 small lensed, steel-rimmed pair that I found in a junk shop in Gettysburg. Corn cob pipe, tobacco pouch and wood matches. Bone handled three tined knife and fork. Small enameled plate to eat on. Various paper-wrapped items such as dried fruit and rice etc. Looked like everything was there, so I the put on my black frock coat, slung the haversack over one shoulder, then my rolled up wool blanket over the other, tucked a pistol into my waistband, put on my wide-brimmed slouch hat and picked up my candle lantern.

Carl has finished his preparations and is slowly pouring some Cluney into a flask. We inspect each other for correctness and pronounce ourselves to be ready. It's a sort of tradition with Carl and I that after the inspection we greet each other with such phrases as, " Ah! Mr. Anderton. It's truly fine to see you again. Shall we commence my old friend?" Then Carl will rejoin with, " Well, if it isn't the Widowman Heggy. It's certainly a welcome sight to see you are no longer the guest of the bailiff, sir." We shake hands and he shoulders his banjo. We begin the walk to the encampment of the Missouri Home Guard and 1861.

The encampment August 11 2005, 10:47 AM



There were other new arrivals in the parking area going through their rites of passage, and as we walked to the road, they greeted us with a nod or a shout. Many of these fellows are well known by us and its a good feeling to be in their company again.

A young man I met last year at Pea Ridge whom I know only by the nickname of 'Cuppy' ran up to us asking Carl if he was going to play that night. Carl answered in the affirmative and Cuppy clapped his hands saying "Hot dog!" Cuppy is probably about nineteen, is always in pretty much the same ragged outfit and, except in winter, is always barefoot. He is a member of 'The Texas Ground Hornets'. They are a pretty 'hard-core' bunch that makes being authentic almost a religion. Cuppy, with his bad grammar, devil-may-care attitude and disheveled appearance fits right in. He looks and acts like he walked right out of Tom Sawyer. He went to college one semester and dropped out because of girlfriend troubles. He works at odd jobs when not re-enacting. For him this is not a hobby. Right now it's his life. Its taken him all over the country, taught him history, fed and clothed him while he is trying to grow up. Someday he will make a very interesting man if life doesn't make him mean.

We proceeded down the road towards a well-lit new shelter house to register. The pavement abruptly ended, and on the same pole that held the sign 'Athens', was another saying - 'State Maintenance Ends'. We crossed to the shelter house and identified ourselves to the Park Ranger, who checked us off the list of those expected. This little formality also means that in effect you have just signed a waiver of any responsibility to claim damages to the State should something unfortunate happen during the event. We inquired as to the location of The Missouri Home Guards and were told that they were camped down a road in a hollow to our right. We started downhill towards the river.

The sounds of the woods closed in and so did the twilight. At the bottom of the hill we turned towards the flickering light of a dozen campfires scattered amongst the huge trees. Shadowy figures moved here and there. Off to the left came some laughter and in front of us was suddenly a sentry demanding our names and purpose. We gave our names and stated that we were here to defend Missouri from the damn Yankee invaders. He let us pass and we proceeded to where the officers were billeted.



Frank Yerby is a long-time re-enactor. He is currently in charge of The Missouri Home Guard. He goes by the name of Col. Angus. Frank throws himself into every endeavor with great energy and enthusiasm. I like Frank a lot. He greeted Carl with a hug and at seeing me he laughed. "Well Carl, I didn't think this situation at Athens was so desperate that you would bring along old 'Aces and Eights!" I told him I just came for the fine food they served and to not pay me any mind. We shook hands and Frank then pointed out a place or two for us to bed down for the night. I went and staked a claim under a big old river maple.

'Sleeping' under the stars August 11 2005, 11:33 AM

When I was a much younger man, my cousin and I would often take a couple of old gunny sacks and stuff them with straw then sleep out in an alfalfa field. We did this just for the fun of it. No joke. Time has caught up with me, and the mere thought of doing such gives me aches and pains. I had no choice at Athens.

It's a fact that no matter how carfully one chooses or prepares a spot to sleep on the ground there will always be a walnut missed or an anthill overlooked. I chose what I figured would be as good a place to be miserable as any other and spread my groundcloth. Staking my candle lantern's shepards crook nearby I then prepared for sleeping.

Carl was off playing somewhere. I could hear his banjo twanging away to the tune of 'Dandy Jim From Caroline' and the fellows joining in on the chorus.



"My old massa told me so.

You the best looking darky in the country o.

Looked in the glass and I saw it's so.

That's what my massa told me o

I'se strong an tall and am so fine

I'se Dandy Jim from Caroline."

I sat there for a bit munching on a handfull of granola listening to that old tune. 2005 was already starting to receed into some sort of memory and I was drifting back.

At first being bundled up in my thick wool blanket, the ground didn't seem too bad. My rolled up frock coat made a serviceable pillow, and the breeze wafting between my bare toes was delightful. Then the ants came. They were not the bitey sort so it was just the annoyance of them crawling on me. Anyway, I decided to move over a bit. After I did that I was once again comfortable and began to slip off into sleep. It must have been several hours later that Carl was back. I was aware of his arrival from the racket he made when he put his foot into our double boiler and crashed headlong into the tree. I sat up and asked him in all politness just what the f**k it was that he was doing.

His explanation made little sense to me so I just sat there waiting for him to get his sleeping accommodations arranged. I was beginning to notice that my back was hurting a bit so I asked Carl for the flask. Took a pull of old painkiller and then laid back down.

I'm not a well padded man and later that night it seemed that no matter how I lay, some bone or other was trying to grate through my skin. Several more jolts of 'medicine' and I was finally able to sleep, albeit fitfully, through to about four thirty in the morning. Carl's snoring was seismic in proportion but I was able to insert the hearing protection we use when firing our cannon. This somewhat diminished his rumblings. For some reason, four thirty was deemed the hour of reveille for The Missouri State Guard. All of a sudden there was the clanging of a spoon on a pan. This was substituted for a bugle since the bugler hadn't arrived yet.

Good morning sweetheart August 11 2005, 12:08 PM

I sat there fuzzy-headed trying to see through the darkness around me. Then I noticed that I couldn't see my lower half. Only my head and shoulders protruded above the thickest ground fog I've ever seen. It had become quite chilly that morning and, snug in my blanket, hadn't noticed it. Now I did.



I heard talking off to my left and bent my ear to listen. It was the Sargent talking to the commisary.

"Jim, I think it best if we distribute rations. The men need something in their stomachs."

"How many of us are there Tom?"

"I don't know. Lets line 'em up and count 'em."

"Okay."

Then Jim goes and gets all the guys lined up and starts counting them.

"Tom,there's 29 of us."

"Okay, tell em to go back and lay down."

He does this to much cursing from the ranks.

"What have we got for rations?"

"Three loaves of bread and a shank of ham."

'We'll divide up the bread by cutting it in half until we have enough for each man to have a piece and do the same with the ham."

This is all in the dark mind you. The sun won't be up for another hour at least.

"Got a knife?"

'Nope."

Go get one from somebody."

"Okay."

A few minutes later Jim is back with somebody's knife.

"Shit! This damn knife wouldn't cut lard! I'm just mashing the bread!"

"Okay, tear off 29 hunks."

"Tom, if it won't cut bread how in the Hell is it gonna cut cold ham?"

"Dig out chunks of ham with the point until we have enough."

This process goes on with some mixed cursing for another ten minutes or so and finally the 'meal' is ready for distribution.

'Tell, the men to line up for rations."

The guys stumble into line and each receives a wad of bread and a mutilated gouge of greasy ham. The dismay was almost palpable. One fellow had the temerity to exclaim, "What the f**k is this?!!"

To which Tom replied, "It's breakfast and your in the army so shut the f**k up an eat it or do without."

I sat there listening to all this munching my granola and dried apricots with a nice slice of edam cheese thanking God I was in the artillery and not the infantry.

As the sun came up August 11 2005, 1:11 PM

I was gradually able to discern more of my surroundings. The glade we were camped in was next to a cornfield. Several of the boys had already availed themselves of the nearly ripe sweet corn and were roasting ears over their campfires. I had some myself and it was quite tasty.



Carl and I broke our camp and decided that the next night would be in more comfortable conditions. We trudged back up the road to the main area and had our breakfast with some very nice ladies who were playing the parts of civilians. Fresh biscuits and gravy with salt pork and eggs. Yum! Strong black coffee and thick slices of fresh bread with hand-churned butter. Thinking back on our unfortunate camp companions and their miserable mess, I almost felt guilty...almost.

We spent the rest of the morning roaming around Athens looking at stuff. Our other friends that work the cannon had arrived at about two in the morning. We found them asleep on the trailer, underneath our six-pounder. We let them sleep on.

The event organizers posted a notice that no issued canteens would be allowed on the battlefield since at the original battle there had been none. We were encouraged to 'forage' for suitable bottles in the town dump. Carl and I went to the dump and after poking around found two intact medicine or whiskey bottles of 1860s or earlier vintage. They cleaned up nicely and with proper corks and slings served quite well as our canteens. We were allowed to keep them afterwards as mementos. Mine is a square pint bottle of dark brown glass.



We wandered over to the civilian encampment and met a couple of very nice young ladies who were acting the part of 'camp girls. Most people think this means 'whore', but actually they were more in the business of doing laundry and sewing. I can't say if other favors were for hire but they were quite attractive. Something about a corset....hmmmm. One of them gave me a Tarot reading that was surprisingly accurate. Carl had the other measure him for a new shirt. I believe it cost him about thirty dollars. Joanne maybe will post a picture I took of the one who gave me the reading as soon as I send the pictures to her.

We pretty much lazed around for most of the morning. Then after lunch we had cannon drill. Dave, our gunny, is very much the stickler for having a safe and well-drilled team on his cannon. So far we haven't had any accidents -which is a good thing because there is no such thing as a little accident with a six pound cannon, or any firearm for that matter. You don't just get a boo-boo and a band-aid. Most likely you'll get maimed or even killed. We've uninvited people to be with us in the past because they just didn't take the job seriously enough. I certainly don't wish for myself or someone else to get hurt because of some idiot fooling around. None of us do and we're damn careful it doesn't happen.

Next---The Battle




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Battle Prep

After a noontime meal of hardtack dipped in honey, washed down with lemonade, Carl and I went to rouse Dave and Ed. They were the other two members of our outfit that made it to this event. Dave is the leader of our group and the owner of the cannon.

Our field piece is an original 1834 cast iron six pounder made at the Fort Pitt Foundry. We are not sure of its history, but judging by the wear, it saw a lot of action. Its a pretty typical sort of gun for the trans-Mississippi theatre. It weighs about two tons with the carriage and other equipment. Surpisingly well balanced, it can be pivoted by two men, or by one with use of the aiming spike. It cost about $20,000.00 with trailer and limber box. Dave's wife left him for a half a year when she found out what he'd spent the family's bank account on. She finally took pity on him and came back, since Dave is one of the worst cooks in the world, and was starving in their little country home.

When we first got it the tube was rifled to put spin on a projectile for greater accuracy and range. All cannon used in re-enactment must be sleeved thus converting them to smoothbore. This done by rule and for reasons of saftey.

Nonetheless, we did fire it once with projectiles composed of orange juice cans filled with concrete. I may have already related what happened elsewhere, but suffice it to say that we did kill one cow and damaged a barn on the far side of the lake Dave lives at. We stenciled a Holstein on the side of our limber box to denote the kill. The farmer whose property we bombarded wasn't pleased, even though the cow was old and soon to be sent to a rendering plant. It cost us $1500.00 to hear the old girl bark once more before we had it sleeved. Not worth it, but its a good story to explain the cow stencil to the curious.

Dave and Ed had already moved the cannon into the position occupied by the artillery at the original battle. Carl and I joined them, and after a bit of joshing around, we assumed our respective positions. I won't go into a great deal of detail about cannon drill. It's always somewhat different depending upon where we're at. The National Park Service has their own way of doing things and other outfits have their rules too. Here at Athens we were taking the part of a rather un-drilled and inexperienced crew. None of the cannon balls fired during the actual battle landed in Missouri. They all went beyond the river into Iowa. One even went clear through a house and across the river.



This time my position was that of #3 man. I was at the left front next to the muzzle. My job was to take the charge from the Powder Monkey's satchel and, turning inward, load the 'pill' in the barrel then step back outside the wheel. After the pill is rammed to the breech by #2 (Carl) on my right, I pick up my implement, (in this case I was using the 'worm'. It's a long staff with a corkscrew device on the end). Carl and I face each other standing outside of the wheel. At the command "PRICK AND PRIME!" #2 takes his vent pick and sticking it down the vent hole breaks open the powder bag in the breech. He yells,"GOOD POWDER!' and then #1 inserts a friction primer into the vent hole and attaches the lanyard to it. He nods off #2 who then backs away. At the command, "READY!' we all lean towards the rear holding one hand over the ear closest to the gun. Then comes the command, "FIRE!". #1 pulls on the lanyard with a quick jerk and hopefully the gun fires. I then go to the front and using the worm remove any residue from the barrel. Then Carl swabs it out with a wet sponge rammer while I await another round from the Monkey.

A good crew can fire three or four rounds a minute. In real battle that was important in keeping the infantry from being able to load for volley fire and advancing on the position. Accurate cannon fire is devastating to attacking ground forces, and accounted for most of the carnage in the Civil War.



We practiced our drill for about a half hour then went to the shade of the trees nearby, had a smoke or two and awaited the arrival of the infantry and the signal to begin hostilities. (The 'Skedaddle' on tomorrow's thread)


Click here for a link to Part 1 in case you missed it
1 posted on 09/28/2005 9:38:31 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To The FReeper Foxhole

Good Thursday Morning Everyone.

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2 posted on 09/28/2005 9:39:47 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Yee haw, First Inn

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


3 posted on 09/28/2005 10:39:26 PM PDT by alfa6
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I once handled two WBTS relic grapeshot, part of a big bunch shot from guns like "Widowman" Heggy's. Designed to deter infantry. They were cast iron balls about one and a fourth inches in diameter. (Very high carbon content, by the way.) Not doing any calculation, don't feel like it, I guess maybe six to a pound. Those projectiles would hurt.

Notice that "old aces and eights"'s gun weighs two tons including the wood. (Hickock was cool, but met his Maker August 2, 1876. Sorry, Lee.)

A good piece, Widowman. I like the 0430 wakeup, very realistic. Receiving a dawn attack when asleep is pretty scary. The terrible food is realistic too. The fresh biscuits, gravy, salt pork, and eggs, now - I can see why you love those reenactments!!!!!!!!
4 posted on 09/29/2005 2:06:44 AM PDT by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father." Last words of His Holiness John Paul II)
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Good Morning, Snippy and everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.


5 posted on 09/29/2005 3:03:27 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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Good morning Snippy, Sam and every one.


6 posted on 09/29/2005 3:37:32 AM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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September 29, 2005

A Winner Either Way

Read:
Philippians 1:15-26

For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. —Philippians 1:21

Bible In One Year: Daniel 10-12

cover Lois had just undergone cancer surgery and was alone with her thoughts. She had faced death before, but it had always been the death of people she had loved—not her own.

Suddenly she realized that losing someone she loved was more threatening to her than the possibility of losing her own life. She wondered why. She remembered that she had asked herself before her operation, "Am I ready to die?" Her immediate answer had been, and still was, "Yes, I am. Christ is my Lord and Savior."

With her readiness for death assured, she now needed to concentrate on living. Would it be in fear or in faith? Then God seemed to say, "I have saved you from eternal death. I want to save you from living in fear." Isaiah 43:1 came to mind: "Fear not, for I have redeemed you; I have called you by your name; you are Mine."

Now Lois testifies, "Yes, I am His! That reality is more important than doctors telling me I have cancer." And then she adds, "I win either way!"

Lois' insight is a convinced echo of Paul's words in today's text, "For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain." Let's pray that those words will resonate in our heart. That confidence makes us a winner either way. —Joanie Yoder

Safe in the Lord, without a doubt,
By virtue of the blood;
For nothing can destroy the life
That's hid with Christ in God. —Anon.

We can really live if we are ready to die.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
Is There Life After Death?
Our Eternal Home

7 posted on 09/29/2005 4:48:03 AM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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Good morning ladies. Flag-o-Gram.


8 posted on 09/29/2005 5:27:56 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (See my book, "Percussive Maintenance For Dummies")
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To: Iris7

Glad you are enjoying the piece. 'Aces and eights' was Franks way of poking fun at me in my outfit.


9 posted on 09/29/2005 6:15:32 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: snippy_about_it
I thought Lee looked familiar.....I faced off against him and his boys at several different events in Missouri. Good bunch of Rebs, they are!



Shows what a small world FR is.....

10 posted on 09/29/2005 6:29:50 AM PDT by Bombardier ("Religion of Peace" my butt.....sell that snakeoil to someone who'll believe it!)
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I seem to remember seeing you at either Pilot Knob, Cassville or Prairie Grove. You going to Wilsons Creek next year? BTW. We are most often Yanks. I guess its the romantic desire of many to champion the underdog. There are almost always too many Rebs to make a Yankee victory look convincing. My outfit will be whatever is neccessary to provide an accurate replay of history. We've even been Bushwackers or civilians.


11 posted on 09/29/2005 7:17:03 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: snippy_about_it

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on September 29:
1511 Michael Servetus Spain, physician (Christianism Rostituta)
1755 Robert Lord Clive, founded British empire in India
1758 Horatio Nelson Burnham Thorpe Britain, naval hero at Trafalgar
1838 Henry Hobson Richardson US Romanesque revival architect
1858 Rudolf Diesel, engineer, was born. (diesel engine)
1895 Joseph Banks Rhine Penn, parapsychologist (Extra-Sensory Perception)
1901 Enrico Fermi Italy, physicist, gone fission (Nobel-1938)
1902 Miguel Alem n president of Mexico (1946-52)
1907 Gene Autry Tioga Tx, cowpoke/singer/actor/Calif Angels owner
1907 Michael Shepley Plymouth England, actor (Dick & the Duchess)
1907 Richard Harkness Artesian SD, newscaster (Story of the Week)
1908 Greer Garson North Ireland, actress (Pride & Prejudice)
1912 Michelangelo Antonioni Ferrara Italy, director (Blow-up)
1913 Stanley E Kramer producer/director (On the Beach)
1915 Brenda Marshall Phillipines, actress (Sea Hawk, Paris After Dark)
1916 Trevor Howard England, actor (Mutiny on Bounty, Ryan's Daughter)
1919 Masao Takemoto Japan, gymnast (Olympic-gold-1960)
1923 O.A. "Bum" Phillips football coach (Houston Oilers/New Orlean Saints)
1924 Steve Forrest Huntsville Tx, actor (Ben-Dallas, SWAT)
1925 John Tower (Sen-R-Tx)
1927 Adhemar Ferreira da Silva Brazil, triple jumper (Olympic-gold-52, 56)
1927 Paul McCloskey (Sen-R-Calif)
1929 Bob Newhart Oak Park Ill, actor/comedian (Bob Newhart Show)
1930 Richard Bonynge Sydney Australia, conductor (Aust Orch Sydney-1976)
1931 Anita Ekberg Sweden, actress (La Dolce Vita, War & Peace)
1935 Jerry Lee Lewis singer (Great Balls of Fire, Breathless)
1939 Larry Linville Ojai Calif, actor (Frank Burns-M*A*S*H, Blue Movie)
1939 Mylene Demongeot Nice France, actress (Just Another Pretty Face)
1942 Ian McShane Blackburn England, actor (Roots, Bare Essence)
1942 Jean-Luc Ponty France, fusion violinist (Frank Zappa)
1942 Madeline Kahn Boston Mass, actress (Young Frankenstein, High Anxiety)
1942 William Nelson (Rep-D-Fla), astronaut (STS 61C)
1943 Lech Walesa Popowo Poland, leads Polish Solidarity (Nobel 1983)
1948 Bryant Gumbel New Orleans La, sportscaster/TV host (Today Show)
1948 Mark Farner Mich, guitar/vocalist (Grand Funk Railroad-Locomotion)
1948 Viktor Krovopouskov USSR, sabres (Olympic-gold-1976, 1980)
1956 Sebastian Coe England, 1500m runner (Olympic-gold-1980, 84)
1960 Wendy White Atlanta Ga, tennis player
1966 Jill Whelan Oakland Calif, actress (Vicki-Love Boat)
1970 Emily Lloyd actress (Wish You Were Here)



Deaths which occurred on September 29:
1197 Emperor Henry VI dies in Messina, Sicily.
1560 Gustaaf I, king of Sweden (1523-60), dies
1800 William Billings, US composer (Rose of Sharon), dies at 53
1895 Louis Pasteur dies
1902William Topaz McGonagall, affectionately remembered to this day as one of Britain's worst (if not the worst) poets, died in Edinburgh, Scotland
1913 Rudolph C K Diesel, German constructer (Diesel Motor), dies at 55
1959 Harold Huber actor (I Cover Times Square), dies at 49
1962 Patrick Corry developed self-rotating rock drill, dies in the Bronx
1964 Robert Burton actor (Dr Gordon-Kings Row), dies at 69
1970 Edward Everett Horton actor/narrator (Bulwinkle Show), dies at 84
1975 Casey Stengel NY Yankee manager (1949-60), dies in Glendale at 85
1978 Pope John Paul I
1986 Betty Kean actress (Amy Tucker-Leave it to Larry), dies at 69
1987 Henry Ford II dies in Detroit at 70
1988 Charles Addams cartoonist (Addams Family), dies at 76 of heart attack
1989 A.A. Busch Jr brewer/baseball owner (St Louis Cards), dies at 90
1997 Roy Lichtenstein, pop artist, dies of pneumonia at 73
1998 Former Los Angeles Mayor Tom Bradley died at age 80.
2000 Lt. Bruce Joseph Donald died when his F/A-18C Hornet fighter crashed into the Persian Gulf.
2001 Nguyen Van Thieu (b.1923), former President of South Vietnam, dies


Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

Iraq
29-Sep-2003 3 | US: 3 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Sergeant Darrin K. Potter Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib Prison - near) Hostile - vehicle accident
US Sergeant Andrew Joseph Baddick Baghdad (Abu Ghuraib Prison - near) Hostile - vehicle accident
US Staff Sergeant Christopher E. Cutchall Al Habbaniyah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire

29-Sep-2004 3 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 1
UKR Lieutenant Colonel Oleh Tikhonov Wasit Province Non-hostile - vehicle accident
US Staff Sergeant Mike A. Dennie Balad (31st CS Hospital) - Salah ad Din Non-hostile - vehicle accident
US Private 1st Class Joshua K. Titcomb Ramadi - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack





Afghanistan
09/29/03 Parker, Kristian E. Private 1st Class 23 Army National Guard 205th Engineer Battalion Non-hostile - non-combat related injuries Qatar (Camp AS Sayliyah) Slidell Louisiana
09/29/03 O'Neill, Evan W. Private 1st Class 19 Army 1st Bat., 87th Inf. Reg., 10th Mountain Division Hostile fire Shkin, Paktika Province, Afghanistan Haverhill Massachusetts

09/29/04 Rogers, Alan L. Staff Sergeant 49 Army National Guard 1st Battalion, 211th Aviation Regiment Non-hostile - non-combat related injuries Bagram Air Base Kearns Utah



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On this day...
0235 St Pontianus ends his reign as Catholic Pope
0440 Pope Leo I the Great, installed
0855 Benedict III begins his reign as Catholic Pope
1187 Saladin's army marches into Jerusalem
1349 People of Krems Austria accuse Jews of poisoning the wells
1364 Battle of Auray, English forces defeat French at Brittany
1399 Richard II of England is deposed. His cousin, Henry of Lancaster, declares himself king under the name Henry IV
1513 Spanish explorer Vasco Nunez de Balboa discovers the Pacific Ocean.
1567 Huguenots try to kidnap king Charles IX
1650 Henry Robinson opens 1st marriage bureau (England)
1785 Chaidic sect is excommunicated in Cracow Poland
1789 1st congress adjourns

1789 US War Dept established a regular army

1793 Tennis is 1st mentioned in an English sporting magazine
1829 London's Metropolitan Police Force (Scotland Yard) goes on duty
1849 1st passenger train service to Peekskill NY (New Haven Railroad)
1850 Mormon leader Brigham Young is named the first governor of the Utah Territory
1853 Emigrant ship "Annie Jane" sinks off Scotland, drowning 348
1859 Great auroral display in US
1862 Union general Jefferson C. Davis shoots and kills a fellow general (General William Nelson) in a dispute at a hotel during the Civil War.
1864 Christian A. Fleetwood awarded the Medal of Honor at the Battle of Chaffin's Farm, Virginia
(http://www.medalofhonor.com/ChristianAFleetwood.htm)
1879 NL owners meeting in Buffalo adopt the reserve clause, giving each team exclusive rights to their players
1890 1st pro baseball game, NY Metropolitans beat the Washington Nationals 4-2 in 5 innings at the Polo Grounds in NYC
1892 1st night football game played (Mansfield, Penn)
1907 Construction begins on Washington National Cathedral
1911 Yanks steal 15 bases & get 13 walks, beating Browns 16-12; with a major-league record 6 stolen bases in 1 inning
1915 A hurricane claims 275 in the Mississippi Delta (And where was George Bush?)
1915 Phila Phillies clinch their 1st pennant
1918 Allied forces scored a decisive breakthrough of the Hindenburg Line
1918 Lt. Frank Luke Jr. against orders destroys 3 German balloons and downed 2 pursuing fighters in a final flight of vengeance for the loss of his wingman Lt. Joseph Wehner. Luke received a posthumous medal of honor
1920 Babe Ruth sets then home run season record at 54
1923 Steinhart Aquarium in Golden Gate Park opens to public
1927 Ruth ties record by hitting grand slams in consecutive games
1928 Yanks (17) Tigers (28) set 9 inning hit record (45)-Tigers win 19-10
1930 1st Canadian football game played under lights, Hamilton-UBC
1936 Radio used for 1st time for a presidential campaign
1940 1st US merchant ship "Booker T Washington" commanded by a black captain (Hugh Mulzac), launched at Wilmington Delaware
1941 30,000 Jews are killed in Kiev by the SS.
1941 Heavyweight Champ Joe Louis KOs Lou Nova in 6
1943 Eisenhower & Italian Marshal Pietro Badoglio sign an armistice
1943 Adolf Hitler's book Mein Kampf is published in the United States.
1944 Soviet troops invade Yugoslavia
1946 1st time NL pennant ends in a tie (Cards & Dodgers)
1946 Al Couture knockouts Ralph Walton in Lewiston Maine in 10 secs
1946 Los Angeles (previously Cleveland) Rams play 1st NFL game in LA
1951 1st color telecast of football game on network, Phila (CBS)
1951 S B Nicholson discovers 12th satellite of Jupiter
1953 AL approves Balt group purchase of St Louis Browns for $2,475,000
1953 Milton Berle Show premiers
1953 "Make Room for Daddy," starring Danny Thomas, premieres on ABC-TV
1954 Willie Mays famous over-the-shoulder catch of Vic Wertz' 460' drive
1957 NY Giants play & lose their last game at Polo Grounds (9-1 to Pitts)
1959 Sultan of Brunei promulgates a constitution
1962 Launch of Alouette 1, 1st Canadian satellite (on US Delta rocket)
1963 2nd session of Ecumenical council, `Vatican II,' opens in Rome
1963 Card's Stan Musial's final game, gets his 3,630th hit
1963 Houston Colt .45 John Paciorek goes 3 for 3 in his only game
1963 Rolling Stones 1st tour (opening act for Bo Diddley & Everly Bros)
1965 Ralph Boston of the US, sets then long jump record at 27' 4 3/4"
1965 St L Cards Charlie Johnson passes for 6 touchdowns vs Cleve (49-13)
1968 Chuck Latourette, sets NFL record 47.7 yd punt return avg (3 punts)
1969 "Love American Style," premiers on ABC
1969 Steve O'Neal of NY Jets, kicks longest NFL punt; 98 yards vs Denver
1973 Balt Orioles pull their 5th triple play (5-4-3 vs Detroit)
1973 Insurance ind announces auto racers get into more highway accidents
1973 Soyuz 12 returns to Earth
1976 Jerry Lee Lewis, attempting to shoot soda bottles hits his bass player Norman Owens twice in the chest
1977 Muhammad Ali won a unanimous, 15-round decision over Earnie Shavers
1977 Soviet space station Salyut 6 launched into Earth orbit
1979 Gold hits record $400.20 an ounce in Hong Kong
1979 Pope John Paul II becomes 1st pope to visit Ireland
1982 Cyanide laced Tylenol capsules kills 7 in Chicago
1983 1st time Congress invokes War Powers Act
1985 "MacGyver," starring Richard Dean Anderson, debuts on ABC-TV
1986 Cubs Greg Maddux defeats Phillies Mike Maddux (1st rookie brothers)
1986 USSR releases US journalist Nicholas Daniloff confined on spy charges
1987 NY Yankee Don Mattingly hits record 6th grand slam of the year
1988 26th Space Shuttle mission, Discovery 7 launched
1988 Florence Griffith Joyner of USA sets the 200m woman's record (21.34)
1988 UN peacekeeping forces win Nobel Peace prize
1990 Washington National Cathedral construction is completed after 83 years
1991 US beats Europeans 14« to 13« to capture the Ryder's cup
1995 OJ Simpson trial sent to the jury
1997 Jury selection in Terry Nichols Okla bombing trial begins
2001 Some 7,000 people marched for peace in Washington DC while an estimated 7-10 thousand marched in San Francisco. They marched to mourn terrorist victims, and to urge the nation to heal poverty and injustice that fuels global violence instead of focusing on military revenge.
(moral midgets on parade)
2004 Mike Melvill piloted SpaceShipOne, designed by Burt Rutan, climbed to 337,500 feet in the 1st leg of an attempt to capture the $10 million X Prize. The prize required a 2nd success within 2 weeks



Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Bhutan : Dhimbhulhami Tsechhu
Paraguay : Battle of Boquer¢n Day (1930)
US : Gold Star Mother's Day (Last Sunday in September) (Sunday)
Brunei : Constitution Day
India : Durga Puja
Ancient Greece : Feast of Nemesis
Cable Television Month


Religious Observances
RC, Ang, Luth : Feast of SS Michael, Gabriel, Raphael & all angels



Religious History
1770 The day before his death at age 56, English revivalist George Whitefield prayed: 'Lord Jesus, I am weary in thy work, but not of it.'
1803 The first Roman Catholic Church in Boston was formally dedicated. (Catholics had not been permitted any religious freedom within this predominantly Puritan colony prior to the Massachusetts Constitution of 1780.)
1967 Swiss Reformed theologian Karl Barth wrote in a letter: 'God has very different people who like one another to different degrees.'
1970 The New American Bible was published by the St. Anthony Guild Press. It represented the first English version Roman Catholic Bible to be translated from the original Biblical Greek and Hebrew languages. (The Rheims-Douai Version of 1610 had been based on Jerome's Latin Vulgate.)
1990 In Washington, DC, the National Cathedral (officially, the Cathedral Church of St. Peter and St. Paul) was completed after 83 years of construction. Begun in 1907, the Gothic edifice had been used in its incomplete form since 1912.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.
Additional information supplied by the author. Contact via


Ind. Man Falls Asleep While Siphoning Gas

Sep 29, 7:04 AM (ET)


MUNCIE, Ind. (AP) - A man was charged with theft after authorities said he fell asleep while siphoning gasoline into a 55-gallon tank.
The gas station manager called police after noticing the man's white van Tuesday.

Officers found him asleep inside the van next to a 55-gallon tank and a battery-operated pump. A hose from the pump led to the gas station's underground tank.
"That's a lot of gas," Police Chief Joe Winkle said. "I'm sure he felt like this would be a pretty good heist for himself."
Winkle said investigators were working to confirm the man's identity.

With regular unleaded at the station selling for $2.67, the tank would have held nearly $150 worth of fuel.


Thought for the day :
"You don't know a ladder has splinters until you slide down it."
"Bum" Phillips


12 posted on 09/29/2005 7:19:08 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Wneighbor; alfa6; radu; All

Good morning everyone.

13 posted on 09/29/2005 7:29:46 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: alfa6
Yee haw, First Inn

Ah, the joys of night shift work. ;-)

14 posted on 09/29/2005 8:10:45 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Iris7; Lee Heggy123
The fresh biscuits, gravy, salt pork, and eggs, now - I can see why you love those reenactments!!!!!!!!

I think after reading Lee's journal that if I had the money and the time it would be great fun to git me one of them there perty dresses, read up on my history and show up at those reenactments.

15 posted on 09/29/2005 8:13:51 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

Good morning EGC.


16 posted on 09/29/2005 8:14:09 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA

Good morning Gail.


17 posted on 09/29/2005 8:14:27 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

Good morning Mayor.


18 posted on 09/29/2005 8:15:32 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hiya PE.


19 posted on 09/29/2005 8:15:51 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Bombardier; Lee Heggy123
I thought Lee looked familiar.....I faced off against him and his boys at several different events in Missouri. Good bunch of Rebs, they are!

LOL. That's right. I had forgotten you were also a reenactor. You'll have to meet up with Lee one of these days. It is a small world.

20 posted on 09/29/2005 8:18:41 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Lee Heggy123; Bombadier
I guess its the romantic desire of many to champion the underdog.

Interesting point. I wonder though if the South had won if folks still wouldn't overwhelmingly want to portray Southerns? Something romantic about it that is more than just being underdogs. Who knows? What the heck, if the South would have won we probably wouldn't be here on FR. :-)

21 posted on 09/29/2005 8:21:20 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin

Good morning Valin.


22 posted on 09/29/2005 8:21:45 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

Good morning feather.


23 posted on 09/29/2005 8:22:10 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Lee Heggy123

Not sure if I will be. I've been moving around some and family problems (death of my grandfather) kept me from reenacting since 2004. I've done some classroom presentations, and a little WWII, as well as some old west, but the traveling required for me to get back together with my pards in the MIB has been a bit harsh lately. I hope I'll be able to shoulder a musket again sometime.....I miss the smell of black powder in the morning.....and the hardtack, bacon and disgustingly strong to lethal coffee we get in our camp.


Faj an bealac! Carry on.


24 posted on 09/29/2005 8:49:43 AM PDT by Bombardier ("Religion of Peace" my butt.....sell that snakeoil to someone who'll believe it!)
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To: snippy_about_it

Snippy, Some National Park sites that do living history events also provide volunteers with everything needed to portray events. Fort Scott Kansas only requires that if you wear glasses that they be of the sort appropriate to the period. Everything else right on down to shoes, hats and gloves are in the wardrobe room for checkout. Of course, you will want to have your own undergarments. If you have never worn a corset, (I haven't!) you will want one thats fairly comfortable if possible. 19th Century womens clothing can be simple or very complicated. Its up to you and what you are portraying. You need only contact the sites in your area to find out whats available. They love volunteers.

The food is usually really good unless your in the infantry and even then it depends on how well the commisary is stocked. Some of the guys are very good at cooking. What with the fresh baked bread and vegetables I actually eat better when I'm on a re-ennactment than when I'm back in fast food land.


25 posted on 09/29/2005 8:58:09 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: snippy_about_it
Good morning, Snippy.

We had some great sleeping weather here last night. It got down to the lower 50's.

We have rain in the forecast for tommorow and Saturday.

How's it going for you?

26 posted on 09/29/2005 9:02:04 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: E.G.C.

Hey EGC. Your weather forcast sounds just like ours. It's been hitting 50's at night and low 70's daily. Tonight rain is due in and tomorrow's high only 68.

The new pup is running us in circles!


27 posted on 09/29/2005 9:15:13 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Lee Heggy123; SAMWolf

Wow, thanks Lee. I always heard it costs and arm and a leg to get all the gear. I didn't know they might have some for you to use. I really must look into it.

Hey Sam, wouldn't that be a kick, what a way to spend our vacation or a couple days off!


28 posted on 09/29/2005 9:17:23 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Your welcome Snippy. The most expensive re-ennactment gear for Civil War is portraying Cavalry and artillery. A good mount that isn't gun shy and is trained in Cavalry manouvers dosen't come cheap and is expensive to maintain properly. Some artillery outfits are called 'Flying Guns'. They have four mules or more to pull the cannon and limber to different positions on the battlefield at a moments notice. Two men ride the limber. One drives and the other hangs on. The rest are also mounted. Very expensive but if you love mules thats what you do. The uniforms, clothing and gear for infantry can be accumulated for around $1,500.00. It's a good idea to buy the best you can when you can and follow the advice of more seasoned re-ennactors in making selections for your impression. Nothing is more derided or looked down upon than the 'farb'.

I suppose Revolutionary outfitting would be more expensive but I haven't done any of that. I'd like to but here in Missouri it was coonskin hats and buckskins for britches in the 18th century.

You might find that an occassional weekend volunteering at some historic site is really fun and relaxing. You'll meet some very fine people and learn too. If you like it then it might be a good idea to get in touch with a seamstress who makes period clothing with the appropriate fabrics, dyes and buttons. There are many such artisans around who produce both civilian and military goods. One such is a business in Virginia called Blockade Runner. They are on the web. The one her close to me is called James Country, also on line. Take a look.


29 posted on 09/29/2005 10:02:23 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: snippy_about_it
Howdy ma'am. Time to get some fresh air...


30 posted on 09/29/2005 10:09:17 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (See my book, "Percussive Maintenance For Dummies")
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To: snippy_about_it; Lee Heggy123

I enjoy reading the presentations. Makes me feel like I'm a part of it.


31 posted on 09/29/2005 10:19:53 AM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I CAN Face Tomorrow)
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To: Valin
1858 Rudolf Diesel, engineer, was born. (diesel engine)

Diesel? Wasn't he the guy who made the first candle?

32 posted on 09/29/2005 10:20:48 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (See my book, "Percussive Maintenance For Dummies")
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather


33 posted on 09/29/2005 10:24:30 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (See my book, "Percussive Maintenance For Dummies")
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To: Valin
Hey Valin, ya missed an event on the calendar.

Thirty-eight years ago today, my enlistment ended as I saluted the OOD and the Colors and crossed the brow for the last time. Looking back at one of those days of old...


34 posted on 09/29/2005 10:28:27 AM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I CAN Face Tomorrow)
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To: Lee Heggy123
Blockade Runner has pictures. I found the skirt and shirt I like. Is it cute or what?


35 posted on 09/29/2005 10:31:14 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Diver Dave

Hi Dave.


36 posted on 09/29/2005 10:32:29 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Diver Dave

Hey Dave, where's the one of you getting ready to dive for repair work? You shared it with us once but I can't find it.


37 posted on 09/29/2005 10:34:02 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Thats real nice looking Snippy. If you dressed up like that you had better keep an eye out for 'skirt lifters'. I bought a shell jacket and some other items from them. Top notch in every detail and reasonable in price too.


38 posted on 09/29/2005 10:45:30 AM PDT by Leg Olam ("There is no Hell. There is only France." F. Zappa)
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To: snippy_about_it
Hey Dave, where's the one of you getting ready to dive for repair work? You shared it with us once but I can't find it.

You mean this one?


39 posted on 09/29/2005 10:52:12 AM PDT by Diver Dave (Because He Lives, I CAN Face Tomorrow)
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To: Lee Heggy123; snippy_about_it
Thanks for your posts, Lee. Very readable and very enjoyable. I also thanked the Lord I wasn't in the infantry!

What you say about our rural areas is sad but true. The heartland's rural areas and small towns are being depopulated.

40 posted on 09/29/2005 11:57:40 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: All; snippy_about_it
Good morning everyone.
I wanted to drop in and say hello before I took off. The house closing and move went as well as it could have, two days later I flew out here to Hawaii. The wife is still unpacking everything and the dog is still waiting at the door and here I have been sitting here since Sunday (its been ruff, let me tell ya!). I have another week or so of this terrible treatment before we go handle the task at hand. I will try to muster here a couple of more times before I leave. Take care Foxhole
41 posted on 09/29/2005 12:23:54 PM PDT by USMCBOMBGUY (You build it, I'll defeat it!)
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To: Professional Engineer

Good morning from the sandy Hawaiian beach!


42 posted on 09/29/2005 12:26:30 PM PDT by USMCBOMBGUY (You build it, I'll defeat it!)
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To: USMCBOMBGUY
its been ruff, let me tell ya!).

LOL. Enjoy it while you can. Good luck with your work and may recovery of our skyraider pilot be successful. Stay safe.

43 posted on 09/29/2005 12:30:00 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: USMCBOMBGUY

Good luck and Thanks for your service

Best Regards

alfa6 ;>}


44 posted on 09/29/2005 3:01:59 PM PDT by alfa6
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To: USMCBOMBGUY

Which beach? We used to go to Waikiki among others when I was a kid.


45 posted on 09/29/2005 6:36:23 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (See my book, "Percussive Maintenance For Dummies")
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To: bentfeather; Samwise; snippy_about_it

Bittygirl is part wookie.

She's taken to pulling the arms and legs off of Spiderboy's C3PO.


46 posted on 09/29/2005 7:48:07 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (See my book, "Percussive Maintenance For Dummies")
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To: Professional Engineer

Never mess with a wookie.


47 posted on 09/29/2005 7:50:00 PM PDT by Samwise (The media is "stuck on stupid.")
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To: Lee Heggy123

Fort Snelling here in Mpls does some nice work with reenactors from the early days of the state.


48 posted on 09/29/2005 8:24:07 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Fooled em again for another day!


49 posted on 09/29/2005 8:25:11 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Professional Engineer

AH! the brother sister relationship, always such a joy to watch.


50 posted on 09/29/2005 8:27:47 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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