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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - Sd. Kfz. 2 Kettenkraftrad Oct. 18, 2005
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Posted on 10/17/2005 7:51:59 PM PDT by alfa6

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To: JoeSixPack1; alfa6; BraveMan; blackie; The Drowning Witch

"It looks just like a Telefunken U47"


21 posted on 10/17/2005 9:51:00 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: alfa6

Let's linkify those kettenkrad pages:

http://www.kettenkrad.de/

http://www.wh-fahrzeuge.de/

http://www.kettenkrad.com

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/3620/sdkfz2.htm


22 posted on 10/17/2005 10:29:32 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: martin_fierro
Treadhead checking in! Woohoo! I was hanging out with these guys tonight....


23 posted on 10/17/2005 10:34:49 PM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: alfa6

Good morning to everyone at the Foxhole.


24 posted on 10/18/2005 3:08:58 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: martin_fierro

Hitler often boasted about the Kettenkraftrad's enviro-friendly, tread design.


25 posted on 10/18/2005 3:29:18 AM PDT by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: JoeSixPack1; All
A couple of the interior shots that did not get posted.

And some off road action, this pic is from (www.kettenhrd.de) IIRC

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

26 posted on 10/18/2005 4:16:17 AM PDT by alfa6 (Work....the curse of the drinking class.)
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To: StarCMC

Well ain'tchoo sumpin', Miss Thang...!


27 posted on 10/18/2005 4:37:06 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: alfa6

Good morning every one.


28 posted on 10/18/2005 4:40:58 AM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; All

Good Tuesday morning to everyone! Interesting topic & great thread. Thanks for making it possible today, alfa6.

When I saw the topic pics, I immediately thought of the great movie, "Saving Private Ryan." The scene when our guys were on the kettenkraftrad in it is still vivid
in my mind.

Have a good one.


29 posted on 10/18/2005 4:46:44 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: alfa6

October 18, 2005

Courage In The Crisis

Read:
Daniel 3:8-18

We do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up. —Daniel 3:18

Bible In One Year: Matthew 12-15

cover Through the centuries, some of God's servants have faced the possibility of an agonizing death unless they renounced their faith. They knew that God could deliver them, but they also knew that in keeping with His own purposes He might not answer their pleas for supernatural help.

In the book of Daniel, three young Hebrew captives faced a life-and-death choice: Worship the king's gold image or be thrown into the fiery furnace. Their response was unhesitating: "Our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace." They added, "But if not, . . . we do not serve your gods, nor will we worship the gold image which you have set up" (Daniel 3:17-18).

But if not! Those words challenge our allegiance. Suppose we face crippling disease. Suppose we are facing shameful disgrace. Suppose we are facing painful loss. We plead for God's intervention, yet in every threatening circumstance our plea should carry the proviso, "But if not!"

Is our attitude that of Jesus in Gethsemane? "O My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as You will" (Matthew 26:39).

Are we willing to endure whatever will glorify God and work out His holy purposes? —Vernon Grounds

They climbed the steep ascent of heaven
Through peril, toil, and pain:
O God, to us may grace be given
To follow in their train. —Heber

When conviction runs deep, courage rises to sustain it.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
What Does It Take To Follow Christ?

30 posted on 10/18/2005 4:48:10 AM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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To: texianyankee
Y'all be referin to this here pic, no?

I can only post some many pice in the thread, he he he

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

31 posted on 10/18/2005 4:56:26 AM PDT by alfa6 (Work....the curse of the drinking class.)
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To: GailA

Good mornin Miss Gail, hope things are going well for you there in ol Memphis Town :-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


32 posted on 10/18/2005 4:57:43 AM PDT by alfa6 (Work....the curse of the drinking class.)
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To: The Mayor

Fine sermon, as usual, this morning Mayor.

Hows every thing up New York way, got plenty of inside jobs lined up for the winter.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


33 posted on 10/18/2005 5:00:21 AM PDT by alfa6 (Work....the curse of the drinking class.)
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To: alfa6

yeah....that pic is from the scene I am referring to.


Despite being somewhat knowledgeable or aware of WWII history - mainly from reading books & watching Hollywood movies - I dont recall ever seeing one of those vehicles pictured until I saw that movie.


34 posted on 10/18/2005 5:01:15 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: texianyankee

I was kind of surprised to find that there are so many still around. Even here in the United States. The picture at the end of the opening post of the 9 Ketts was taken here in the States IIRC

I found quite a few wartime pics of the Kettenkrad but most of them were of pretty poor quality so I did not use them.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


35 posted on 10/18/2005 5:10:42 AM PDT by alfa6 (Work....the curse of the drinking class.)
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To: alfa6

I'm tryin, I have estimates out for a couple additions, one big one for $70,000 I hope that one comes in.

Otherwise politics coming up on the Nov 8th election.


36 posted on 10/18/2005 5:32:36 AM PDT by The Mayor ( Pray as if everything depends on God; work as if everything depends on you.)
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To: alfa6

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on October 18:
1239 Stefanus V prince of Transylvania/king of Hungary (1270-72)
1405 Pius II [Aenea S Piccolomini], Italian pope (1458-64)
1697 Canaletto Venetian painter (Venicei A Regatta on Grand Canal)
1804 Rama IV [Phra Chomklao Chaoyuhua], king of Thailand (1851-68)
1806 John Breckinridge Grayson Brig Genl (Confederate Army), died in 1861
1811 Hugh Thompson Reid Brig General (Union volunteers), died in 1874
1818 Edward Otho Cresap Ord Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1883
1824 Juan Valera bon Alcal Galiano Spanish author (Pepita Jim‚nez)
1829 Charles Sidney Winder Brig General (Confederate Army), died in 1862
1829 Lucius Marshall Walker Brig General (Confederate Army), died in 1863
1859 Henri Bergson France, philosopher (Creative Evolution-Nobel 1927)
1877 Florence Dahl Walrath humanitarian, founded Cradle society
1898 Lotte Lenya Vienna Austria, actor/singer (Appointment, Semi-Tough)
1915 Victor Sen Yung SF Calif, actor (Bonanza, Bachelor Family)
1918 Bobby Troup Harrisburg Pa, pianist/actor (Emergency, Acapulco)
1919 Pierre Elliot Trudeau (L) 15th Canadian PM (1968-79, 1980-84)
1921 Jesse Helms (Sen-R-NC) (evil ultra extreme radical right-winger)
1922 Little Orphan Annie comic strip character
1925 Melina Mercouri Athens Greece, actress/politician (Never on a Sunday)

1926 Chuck Berry St Louis, rocker (Roll over Beethoven)

1926 George C Scott Wise Va, actor (Patton, Bible, Taps, Hardcore)
1927 Katherine Fanning Chicago, editor (Christian Science Monitor-1983)
1928 Keith Jackson Carrolton Ga, sportscaster (ABC Monday Night Football)
1933 Forrest Gregg NFL tackle (Green Bay Packers, Dallas Cowboys)
1933 Peter Boyle Phila, actor (Young Frankenstein, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, "Everybody Loves Raymond")
1934 Inger Stevens Stockholm Sweden, actress (Katy-Farmer's Daughter)
1939 Lee Harvey Oswald JFK assassin
1939 Mike Ditka coach/tight-end (Da Bears, Cowboys, NFL rookie year 1961)
1947 Laura Nyro Bronx, singer/songwriter (Eli's Coming, Stoney End)
1951 Pam Dawber Detroit, actress (Mindy-Mork & Mindy, My Sister Sam)
1956 Martina Navratilova Prague Czech, tennis (Wimbledon 1989,79,82-87)
1961 Erin Moran Burbank Calif, actress (Happy Days, Joanie Loves Chachi)
1961 Wynton Marsalis New Orleans La, jazz trumpeter (Grammy 1983)
1971 Karen J McNenny Missoula Montana, Miss Montana-America (1991)
1977 Chris McKenna Queens NY, actor (Joey-One Live to Live)



Deaths which occurred on October 18:
0707 John VII Greek Pope (705-07), dies
1216 John, king of England (1199-1216, Magna Charta), dies
1526 Lucas Vazquez de Ayllp, Spanish colonialist (settles SC), dies
1676 Nathaniel Bacon rallied against Virginian govt, killed at 29
1862 James Creighton dies of ruptured bladder hitting HR on Oct 14th
1864 David Bell Birney US lawyer/Union general-major, dies at 39
1876 Francis Preston Blair newspaper editor (Washington Globe), dies at 85

1931 Thomas Alva Edison inventor, dies in West Orange, NJ, at 84

1965 Henry Travers actor (Bells of St Mary, High Sierra), dies at 91
1973 Walt Kelly, US comic strip artist (Pogo), dies at 60
1978 Jacques Mornard, [Ramon Mercader], murderer of Leon Trotsky, died at 64.
1982 Bess Truman former 1st lady, dies in Independence, Mo at 97
1984 Jon-Erik Hexum actor, dies at 26 by a gun loaded with blanks
1993 Smail Yefsah Algerian TV journalist, murdered at 31
2000 Julie London singer-actress died age 74.
2000 Gwen Verdon Broadway musical star (Damn Yankees-Lola, Sweet Charity-Charity) age 75.


Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

Iraq
18-Oct-2003 2 | US: 2 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US 1st Lieutenant David R. Bernstein Taza (W of Kirkuk) - At Ta'mim Hostile - hostile fire - ambush
US Private 1st Class John D. Hart Taza (W of Kirkuk) - At Ta'mim Hostile - hostile fire - ambush

18-Oct-2004 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Andrew C. Ehrlich Muqdadiyah - Diyala Non-hostile - unspecified cause



Afghanistan
A GOOD DAY


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On this day...
0707 John VII ends his reign as Catholic Pope
1016 Danes defeat Saxons at Battle of Assandun (Ashingdon)
1210 Pope Innocent III excommunicated German emperor Otto IV.
1469 Isabella married Ferdinand II of Aragon.
1648 1st US labor organization forms (Boston Shoemakers)
1685 Louis XIV revokes Edict of Nantes, outlaws Protestantism
1748 Treaty of Aix-la-Chapelle, ends War of Austrian Succession
1767 Boundary between Md & Pa, the Mason Dixon line, agreed upon
1776 Col John Glover & Marblehead regiment meet British Forces in Bronx
1776 In a NY bar decorated with bird tail, customer orders "cock tail"
1862 Morgan's raiders capture the federal garrison at Lexington, KY
1863 Battle of Charlestown, WV
1867 US takes formal possession of Alaska from Russia ($7.2 million)
1867 The rules for American football are formulated at meeting in New York among delegates from Columbia, Rutgers, Princeton and Yale universities.
1889 1st all NYC world series NY Giants (NL) play Brooklyn (AA) (World Series #86)
1890 John Owen is 1st man to run 100 yd dash in under 10 seconds
1891 1st international 6-day bicycle race in US (MSG, NYC) begins
1892 1st commercial long-distance phone line opens (Chicago-NY)
1898 American flag raised in Puerto Rico
1908 Belgium annexes Congo Free State
1909 Comte de Lambert of France sets airplane altitude record of 300 m
1910 E.M. Forster publishes "Howard's End"
1912 Beginning of the 1st Balkan War
1912 Italo-Turkish war ends
1918 Russian 10th Army(Red Army)defeat the White armies at Tsaritsyn (Stalingrad).
1922 British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) established
1941 Soviet spy Richard Sorge arrested in Tokyo
1944 Soviet troops invade Czechoslovakia during WW II
1950 Connie Mack retires as manager of the A's after 50 years
1950 The First Turkish Brigade arrives in Korea to assist the U.N. forces fighting there
1953 Willie Thrower becomes 1st black NFL quarterback in modern times
1955 Track & Field names Jesse Owens all-time track athlete
1959 The Soviet Union announced an unmanned space vehicle had taken the first pictures of the far side of the moon.
(Don't believe this! I've seen these "photos" And they don't show the alien bases there.)
1960 Casey Stengel retired by NY Yankees (won 10 pennants in 12 years)
1960 In Britain, the News Chronicle & Daily Mail merge, & The London Evening Star merges with the Evening News
1962 US launches Ranger 5 for lunar impact; misses Moon
(But it was a near miss)
1962 Dr Watson (US) & Drs Crick & Wilkins (Britain) win Nobel Prize for Medicine for work in determining structure of DNA
1963 IOC votes Mexico City to host 1968 Olympics
1967 Soviet Venera 4 becomes the 1st probe to send data back from Venus
1967 Walt Disney's "Jungle Book" is released
1967 AL votes to allow Athletics to move from KC to Oakland & expand the league to 12 teams in 1971 with KC & Seattle teams
1968 Circus Circus opens in Las Vegas
1968 Lee Evans sets world record of 43.8 seconds in 400 meter dash
1968 Police find 219 grains of cannabis resin in John & Yoko's apt
1969 Federal govt bans use of cyclamates artificial sweeteners
1969 Soyuz 8 returns to Earth
1973 Congress authorizes bi-centennial quarter, half-dollar & dollar coin
1974 Chicago Bull Nate Thurmond becomes 1st in NBA to complete a quadruple double-22 pts, 14 rebounds, 13 assists & 12 blocks
1977 Yanks beat Dodgers 8-4 for 21st world championship, 1st in 15 years
1981 NY Giant Joe Danelo ties NFL record of 6 field goals in a game
1988 Israel's supreme court uphold's ban on Kahane`s Kach Party as racist
1989 US 62nd manned space mission STS 34 (Atlantis 5) launches into orbit
1989 East German state/party leader Erich Honecker, resigns
1990 Iraq, pinched by economic sanctions, offered to sell oil to anyone at half the going price.
1991 Clarence Thomas sworn in as Associate Supreme Court Justice
1996 Democratic Party fund-raiser John Huang was relieved of his duties following days of attacks by the Republicans over what they called improper and possibly illegal contributions.
2000 Italian police raid the Univ. of Messina. 79 faculty and staff were later indicted on organized crime charges.
2001 Atef Abeiyat, a militia commander in Arafat’s Fatah, was killed with 2 others when their car exploded near Bethlehem.
2002 Space shuttle Atlantis returned to Earth following an 11-day mission to the int'l. space station
2002 According to Greek scientists, the length of a man's index finger can accurately predict the length of his penis. The findings are published in the September issue of the journal Urology


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Rhodesia : Republic Day
Alaska : Alaska Day (1867)
Black Power Day
Gourmet Coffee Week (Day 4)
Gourmet Adventures Month
National Liver Awareness Month


Religious Observances
Ang, RC, Luth : Feast of St Luke, evangelist, patron saint of artists.
Islam : Start of the Moslem New Year


Religious History
1662 Birth of Matthew Henry, English Presbyterian pastor. He is remembered for his "Exposition of the Old and New Testaments" (1708-10) -- still in print! -- whose value lies in its devotional and practical comments on the books of the Bible.
1685 Louis XIV revoked the 1598 Edict of Nantes, which had permitted French Protestants limited religious tolerance. The Huguenot exodus which followed drained France's industrial economy, and possibly hastened the French Revolution.
1931 English apologist C.S. Lewis wrote in a letter: 'The [Christian] "doctrines" are translations into our concepts and ideas of that which God has already expressed in language more adequate, namely the actual incarnation, crucifixion, and resurrection.'
1949 Country songwriter Stuart Hamblen, 31, underwent a spiritual conversion. Author of the popular 1954 hit "This Old House," Hamblen later wrote such Christian favorites as "It Is No Secret What God Can Do," "How Big is God?" and "They That Wait Upon the Lord."
1954 "The Week in Religion" aired for the last time over Dumont television. First broadcast in March 1952, this ecumenical Sunday evening panel show divided the hour into 20-minute segments each for Protestant, Catholic and Jewish news.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Bachelor princes advertise for wives

October 18, 2005

SERBIA'S royal family has issued a statement in the style of a personal ad seeking local wives for its three unmarried princes.
"Princess Wanted!" and "How to become a princess in Serbia?" read the headlines to the emailed statement, in which prince Peter, 25, and his twin brothers Philip and Alexander, 23, said they were ready to meet the loves of their lives.
"They are young, beautiful and perfectly educated. They have charm, a sense of humour. They always have (a) smile on their faces," said the Serbian royal family.
"They are descendants of one of the oldest royal families in Europe, but their titles dont prevent them from skiing, surfing, dancing and cooking fabulous meals.
"Their royal highnesses Peter, Philip and Alexander have something else in common: those they will choose to marry will become princess."

The statement, which also appeared in a local magazine, featured posed photographs of the three princes, who the Serbian royal family's website says are descendants of Britain's Queen Victoria.
Peter, Philip and Alexander are the sons of Serbia's crown prince Alexander Karadjordjevic, 60, who returned to Serbia in late 2000 and serves a largely ceremonial role in the Balkan state.
Alexander II had lived in exile in London after being banned from his homeland by former socialist leader Josip Broz Tito. The crown prince is the son of Peter II, the young king crowned in 1941 who fled his country after Nazi Germany invaded.
His three sons were raised abroad and none of them speaks the language of their homeland perfectly.

"A real love hasn't happened to me yet and for the time being I cannot say that it exists," said Philip, who along with Alexander was born in Fairfax, Virginia.
The "fact" that Peter is on the list of most wanted bachelors not only in Serbia, but in Europe as well, "brings a smile to his face," said the royal family statement.
"Sometimes I think about marriage as a part of my future," said Peter, who was born in Chicago.

"Naturally I see myself in a new, different role one day. But there is still time before that. I hope true love exists. I try to keep my faith in some ideals. True love is one of them," said the heir to Serbia's titular crown.

"I will find one if she finds me. It is nice to meet someone who then becomes a real friend, because the basis of any love is friendship and trust," Peter added.


Thought for the day :
"Hail Hail Rock and Roll"
Chuck Berry


37 posted on 10/18/2005 7:09:00 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: alfa6

MOTORCYCLE OR HALFTRACK?
By Wild Bill Wilder

The German SdKfz 2 kleines Kettenrad (special small wheeled or tracked vehicle) was put into use in the beginning as a handy means of moving small caliber guns and equipment for the German paratroopers. It could be safely airdropped with them and increased their maneuverability.

About 8 1/2 feet long and with a road speed of around 40 miles per hour, it went into action in 1941. It was a small but complex vehicle that could carry three men. It was powered by tracks instead of wheels in the rear. This gave it a most interesting look and was quite unique on the battlefield.

Throughout the war its primary purpose was the movement of small amounts of supplies to areas otherwise unreachable by a larger transport. Only a few dozen were ever used in North Africa. They were never produced in great quantitities, as the German war effort had greater needs for larger combat vehicles.

Those always looked like they'd be a riot to drive.


38 posted on 10/18/2005 8:18:36 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The cost of feathers has risen, now even down is up)
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To: Professional Engineer

AWWWWWWWW!


39 posted on 10/18/2005 8:20:03 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The cost of feathers has risen, now even down is up)
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To: bentfeather

Morning tanker Feather


40 posted on 10/18/2005 8:20:27 AM PDT by SAMWolf (The cost of feathers has risen, now even down is up)
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