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THE ORIGIN OF OLD CORPS/NEW CORPS
Chesty Puller Himself! | 11/08/2013 | RaceBannon

Posted on 11/08/2013 5:04:48 PM PST by RaceBannon

Lt Samuel Nicholas was recruiting his first recruit for the Marine Corps in Tun's Tavern, Philadelphia, November 10, 1775. His first recruit came up to him. "Here , sign your name or make your mark. Here's $10 pay for your first month. Did you bring your rifle?" The first Marine Recruit signed his name, took the money and said, "Yes, Sir, I have my rifle." "Lt Nicholas said, "Outstanding! Go sit down in the room in the back!" The second Marine recruit shows up. Lt Nicholas says, "Here, sign your name or make your mark! Here's $10 for your first month's pay! Did you bring your rifle?" The second recruit signs his name, takes his pay and says, "No, Sir, I dont have a rifle just yet!" Lt Nicholas says, "That's okay, we'll get you one! Now, Go in the back room and sit down with the other Marine recruit!" The second recruit steps in the back room, sees the first recruit and sits at the table with him. The first recruit asks him, "Hey, Did you bring your rifle?" The second recruit says, "No, he said he'd get me one soon though."


TOPICS: VetsCoR
KEYWORDS: jarhead; marine
The first recruit said, "You know, in the OLD CORPS, we had to bring our OWN rifles!"
1 posted on 11/08/2013 5:04:48 PM PST by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon; stowaway; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; mcswan; posterkid; ...
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARINE CORPS!
2 posted on 11/08/2013 5:06:03 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon; LeonardFMason; jazusamo; Gene Eric; smoothsailing; Girlene; annalex

And, if I may, a moment of silence for Lancey Howard.


3 posted on 11/08/2013 5:09:58 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: RaceBannon
Happy Birthday!

Semper Fi

An Old Man

4 posted on 11/08/2013 5:13:25 PM PST by An Old Man
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To: RaceBannon

The 10th is the birthday!


5 posted on 11/08/2013 5:14:58 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: bigheadfred

HUH???
did i miss that thread??
wHEN DID HE PASS???


6 posted on 11/08/2013 5:20:06 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: Red_Devil 232

232, 235, AND 335? WERE AT k-bAY WHEN i WAS THERE :)


7 posted on 11/08/2013 5:20:47 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: bigheadfred

Amen.

RIP, Lancey.


8 posted on 11/08/2013 5:20:59 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: RaceBannon

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3087133/posts


9 posted on 11/08/2013 5:21:22 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bigheadfred; RaceBannon; LeonardFMason; jazusamo; smoothsailing; Girlene; annalex

>> And, if I may, a moment of silence for Lancey Howard.

Absolutely.


10 posted on 11/08/2013 5:31:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: RaceBannon

I came later with VMFA 232 in 1972 at Dan Nang; Operation Linebacker.


11 posted on 11/08/2013 5:43:21 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: RaceBannon
The only aircraft the Marines lost to enemy aircraft during the Vietnam War. This had to be an earlier photo of the aircraft, as all ours had a white nose cone not black. Lost the pilot, 1st Lt Sam Gary Cordova, but the Rio, 1st Lt Darrell L. Borders was recovered.

File:F-4Js VMFA-232 IFR.jpg

12 posted on 11/08/2013 5:59:11 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: RaceBannon

Happy birthday and semper fi, devil dogs (Teufel Hunden). If I ever see any of you FR Marines in a bar, coffee shop or mess hall, the drinks are on me. Best wishes to you and your families.


13 posted on 11/08/2013 6:08:55 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: RaceBannon

Happy birthday and Semper fi!


14 posted on 11/08/2013 6:18:11 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I was in I Corps (Hill 55) in 1969. We used to love to call in the F4s and watch the fireworks. What a noise those engines made! I expect I’ll never forget the sound and feel of a Phantom flown in anger at low altitude.


15 posted on 11/08/2013 6:22:54 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

VMA-235, Kaneohe Bay, 1980

16 posted on 11/08/2013 6:50:06 PM PST by RaceBannon (Lk 16:31 And he said unto him If they hear not Moses and the prophets neither will theybe persuaded)
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To: RaceBannon
Absolutely.

Happy Birthday (on the 10th) to the USMC, including all Marines (present and vets) and including my "kid" who has honorably completed several years of service in the Corps and has earned a return to civvie life in this great Country.

.

17 posted on 11/08/2013 8:17:06 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: RaceBannon
For a general run down of the original Tun's for some who may not have found any historical data on it, can be found here.
18 posted on 11/08/2013 8:43:40 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Galt level is not far away......)
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To: bigheadfred

oh no, Lancey Howard was one of the good guys!

May his family find peace and comfort in their memories together.


19 posted on 11/09/2013 7:53:46 AM PST by bitt (If Obama is really worried about “the children”, he should be bombing planned parenthood.)
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To: RaceBannon

Semper Fi, Mac,..and Happy Birthday.


20 posted on 11/09/2013 8:01:54 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: RaceBannon

Happy Birthday, Marine.


21 posted on 11/09/2013 7:14:59 PM PST by Always A Marine
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To: RaceBannon; All

Happy Birthday, Marines. May there be many more in spite of the jug-eared bastard living in the Peoples House. Semper Fidelis is more than just a motto, it’s a creed we live by.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 8:13:13 AM PST by gunner03
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To: Cvengr

Semper Fi, Mac

One of my favorite books with that title. I have probably read it 10 times since I was a kid.


23 posted on 11/12/2013 5:09:59 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: RaceBannon

Lawmaker: Grant all Marines who cover grenades the Medal of Honor
Mar. 25, 2014 - 06:00AM |
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Marine 1st Sgt. Bradley Kasal is carried from a house in Fallujah, Iraq, where he used his own body to shield a fellow Marine from a grenade blast on Nov. 13, 2004. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., has written to Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel urging him to award a Medal of Honor to any service member who shields others from the effects of a grenade blast.
Marine 1st Sgt. Bradley Kasal is carried from a house in Fallujah, Iraq, where he used his own body to shield a fellow Marine from a grenade blast on Nov. 13, 2004. Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., has written to Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel urging him to award a Medal of Honor to any service member who shields others from the effects of a grenade blast. (Marine Corps)

By Hope Hodge Seck
Staff Writer

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In light of the news that Marine veteran Kyle Carpenter will receive the Medal of Honor for shielding his friend from a live grenade in Afghanistan, a California congressman is petitioning Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel to take a closer look at the awards for two Marines who reportedly committed similar acts of heroism.

Republican Rep. Duncan Hunter sent a letter to Hagel Tuesday asking that he reconsider the awards for Marine Sgt. Maj. Bradley Kasal and the late Sgt. Rafael Peralta, both of whom received the Navy Cross for maneuvering to absorb the brunt of a grenade blast to shield a comrade.

Hunter has waged an aggressive multiyear campaign seeking a medal upgrade for Peralta, whose family resides in his district. In February, Hagel became the third defense secretary to decline to seek the higher award in Peralta’s case, citing a lack of conclusive evidence of the action to meet the medal’s “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard.

Some of the evidence, including the initial medical examiner’s report, led to disputes over whether Peralta, wounded in the head by a bullet fragment, could have acted consciously to cover a live grenade, and whether the blast pattern and wounds bore out that he did so.

With reports that medically retired Cpl. Kyle Carpenter will receive the medal for jumping on a grenade to save his friend — a case in which there is substantial physical evidence of the act, but no eyewitnesses — Hunter is broadening his efforts.

His letter referenced Peralta, Kasal, Carpenter and fallen Marine Cpl. Jason Dunham, saying the cases of these four Marines illustrate the inconsistencies in the Medal of Honor process.

According to his Navy Cross citation, then-1st Sgt. Kasal joined a squad trying to clear a house of enemy fighters and rescue wounded Marines in Fallujah in November 2004. When insurgents threw a grenade into the room, Kasal rolled on top of his fellow Marine, using his own body to shield the Marine from the blast. He sustained severe wounds from about 40 pieces of hot shrapnel.

Dunham posthumously received the Medal of Honor in 2006 for covering a grenade with his helmet to save fellow Marines during fighting in Iraq.

“For each of these Marines, their actions are uniquely similar,” Hunter wrote. “Enemy grenades were involved and each Marine either covered the grenade blast or intentionally shielded others. All of them preserved the lives of their fellow Marines.”

In both Peralta’s and Carpenter’s cases, the evidence to support the Medal of Honor award required further examination, Hunter wrote. Hunter maintains that the grenade fuze recovered from Peralta’s body armor indicates that the blast went off underneath him.

But in a letter explaining his decision not to reopen the Medal of Honor case, Hagel wrote that Peralta’s wounds, coupled with photo and video evidence from the scene, indicated the grenade detonated some distance away from his left side.

In the Carpenter case, the bulk of the evidence for the act of heroism appears to hinge on the location of the blast seat of the grenade, found under Carpenter’s torso, as well as the catastrophic nature of his wounds.

The Defense Department has not released Carpenter’s medal citation or officially announced the decision to give him the award.

“Also, in your response [regarding Peralta], you state that the Defense Department standard is that the ‘MoH recommendations must include eyewitness statements,’” Hunter wrote. “Should none exist or lines of sight differ and accounts differ, then it is necessary to fully examine all other information needed to make an appropriate judgment. And, in that regard, all cases must apply the same standards.”

Other troops, too, have been “clearly misrepresented” by the awards process, Hunter wrote, citing Marine Maj. Brian Chontosh, who received the Navy Cross for barreling into an enemy trench in Baghdad in 2003 and dispatching at least 20 fighters — killing some with their own weapons — to save his platoon caught in a kill zone.

Hunter also referred to fallen Army Sgt 1st. Class Alwyn Cashe, who sacrificed his life pulling soldiers out of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle that was engulfed in flames in Iraq in 2005.

“They, too,” Hunter said, “are examples of the subjectivity in a process that should have absolutely none.”

Officials in the Office of the Secretary of Defense have said they do not comment on Hagel’s personal correspondence.

Hunter’s letter comes the week after the Defense Department announced a comprehensive review of its military decorations and awards process, which will incorporate insights from the most recent wars.

“After 13 years of war, we must use lessons learned in Iraq and Afghanistan to improve our awards program and ensure that our troops are being honored appropriately,” Hagel announced March 20.

Hunter said the review presents an opportunity to examine “one of the great mysteries of the war in Iraq,” that no living Medal of Honor recipients emerged from the conflict. The review gives military and defense officials a chance to change the record for some troops who have already received a lesser award, he said.

“Throughout the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Medal of Honor process has worked as it should on 13 occasions (soon to be 14), given that there are now that many recipients of the top award,” Hunter wrote. “For the rest who were either denied or downgraded, there is still an opportunity to do the right thing.”


24 posted on 03/26/2014 5:08:24 PM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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