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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Bay of Pigs Invasion (Apr-1961) - Apr. 17th, 2003
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Posted on 04/17/2003 5:35:09 AM PDT by SAMWolf
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To: Mon
Good night,Mon.
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:50:38 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(We have two of Saddam's half-brother btothers, does that mean we have one whole brother now?)
To: Mon
hehehe
Did you see Sam's grid squares? Could you get some of those too while you're out?
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posted on
04/17/2003 10:55:23 PM PDT
by
Jen
(Still Aiming High!)
To: SAMWolf
Good,..and G'nite BUMP!!! Can't wait to see what you guys have for tomorrow. :o)
To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks Vets_Husband_and_Wife. See you tomorrow
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posted on
04/17/2003 11:30:29 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(We have two of Saddam's half-brother btothers, does that mean we have one whole brother now?)
To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife; SAMWolf
Really interesting thread Sam....cudo's.
Thanks vet for your posts...again..really interesting.
Allen Dulles is a shadowy fellow...intrigues within intrigues...onward to the assassination of President Kennnedy.
To: Light Speed; Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Thanks LightSpeed. Vets added some really interesting info to the thread.
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posted on
04/17/2003 11:43:13 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(We have two of Saddam's half-brother btothers, does that mean we have one whole brother now?)
To: Light Speed
I agree. There was some really wierd stuff in the inquisition/investigation.
Definitely shadowy..and sure didn't shed a pretty light on Kennedy.
Talk about out of the loop. Makes you wonder what his meds were that week.
Cute little inuendo at the bottom about the Bush's too.
Sheesh.. when they look bad.. they just gotta pull others down with em'.
The whole thing was a HUGE mess. Gives me chills to this day when I read it. Whew!!!
Nite, Vets
To: Do the Dew
Would you like a daily 'ping' to the Foxhole, so you never miss Sam's wonderful threads and pictures? I'd be happy to add you to the Foxhole ping list.
Welcome to FR!!!
Jen
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posted on
04/18/2003 6:04:33 AM PDT
by
Jen
(I Support our Troops - Always Have, Always Will)
To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!!!
149
posted on
04/18/2003 6:08:17 AM PDT
by
E.G.C.
To: PhilDragoo
Thanks for the interpretation. You always add so much to the Foxhole and it's very appreciated.
150
posted on
04/18/2003 6:09:32 AM PDT
by
Jen
(I Support our Troops - Always Have, Always Will)
To: AntiJen
Oh yes I saw that! I'm getting him left-handed once, rofl
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posted on
04/18/2003 7:16:37 AM PDT
by
Mon
To: SAMWolf
I am convinced that Kennedy organized the Bay of Pigs operation with the intention that it would fail exactly as it did. In much the same way, he had Diem assassinated to ensure the collapse of the Republic of Viet Nam.
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posted on
04/18/2003 9:31:40 AM PDT
by
Iris7
(Sufficient for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.)
To: SAMWolf
bump for future reading
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posted on
04/19/2003 7:58:07 AM PDT
by
sanchmo
To: PhilDragoo; SAMWolf; fortheDeclaration; Commander8; editor-surveyor; ksen; Alamo-Girl
Phil,.....Your#132........Excellent Post,.....thanks for YOUR input!
Thank you too, SaM, for the article, postings, and great pictures!
AG,.....?...Archives?
VERY INTERESTING READING.......................BTTT
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posted on
04/19/2003 8:04:53 AM PDT
by
maestro
To: Iris7
Any theory as to why?
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posted on
04/19/2003 8:48:55 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(n this world there's two kinds of people: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.)
To: maestro
Thanks maestro. We're glad you like the Foxhole topics.
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posted on
04/19/2003 8:50:01 AM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(n this world there's two kinds of people: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.)
To: SAMWolf
I studied the Bay of Pigs pretty hard, then the Diem assassination somewhat less. There is also Kennedy's exposure of Oleg Penkovsky, and his promise to the Soviets to leave Cuba alone forever. I started to see it couldn't all be misfeaseance. I was seeing malfeaseance.
I wouldn't characterize my ideas as a "theory", but old Joe followed the Moscow line quite closely until the invasion of the Soviet Union. If this point of view reflects the truth then it is unreasonable to expect any documentation survives.
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posted on
04/19/2003 2:47:50 PM PDT
by
Iris7
(Sufficient for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.)
To: Iris7
Thanks, I was curious as to what led you to believe Kennedy wanted the invasion to fail.
Old Joe was also a Nazi backer until the war broke out.
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posted on
04/19/2003 2:55:21 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(n this world there's two kinds of people: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.)
To: SAMWolf
The Moscow Party Line before the German invasion - July 20, 1941, as I remember - totally supported the Germans and said that the British were doomed. With the invasion this Line changed almost overnight. Those Americans whose views change from pro-axis to "anti-fascist" after 7/20 were following the Moscow Line. Old Joe was one of them.
There is an old GRU man who writes as "Suvorov" that tells a story that confirms my opinion about Kennedy. There was a huge agent in the US whose identity was totally secret and who was at the center of the US government. Look at the forced retirement of James Jesus Angleton. There is a lot more. Not legal proof, but a huge red flag from a counter-intelligence point of view.
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posted on
04/19/2003 10:16:40 PM PDT
by
Iris7
(Sufficient for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.)
To: Iris7
You got that right. The Pro-Nazi's in Americas were that way as laon as Berlin and Moscow were Allied. As soon as the Germans invaaaaded Russia their tune changed.
They used the Pro-Nazi stnace to cover for their Communist beleifs.
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posted on
04/19/2003 10:20:37 PM PDT
by
SAMWolf
(n this world there's two kinds of people: Those with loaded guns and those who dig. You dig.)
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