[snippy_about_it]

McNamara and Johnson, two sleezes.

Once again the left gets to office on lies.

I'd like to believe that if Goldwater had won instead, we would have been more aggressive with the enemy and maybe the losses to us wouldn't have been so high.

This story is one reason I enjoyed reading about Abrams yesterday. It's good to be reminded there are some good people out there in government though they be few and far between.

Thanks for the history SAM, the stories may not always bring good memories but they need to be told.

[SAMWolf]

Thanks Snippy.

Besides Vietnam I wonder what would have happened without his "War on Poverty" wealth redistribution policies.

[U S Army EOD]

What if we had supported Ho Chi Minh instead of the French? The OSS put him in power and saved his life. At one time he was very pro-American.

I had a friend who was a figher pilot in the South East Asia area during WWII. He once told me if you were shot down where Ho Chi Minh's forces were, they would get you back to allied lines. However, if the French got you, they would turn you in to the Japs.

I guess the lesson in history, that still rings true, is if the French are involved, it is going to get screwed up.