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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Commodore John Barry - Aug. 9th, 2003
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Posted on 08/09/2003 12:00:35 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: colorado tanker
Thanks, think they'll let me in in jeans and a T-shirt?
41 posted on 08/09/2003 12:53:45 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: SAMWolf
think they'll let me in in jeans and a T-shirt?

Hey, its California. Just throw on sunglasses, a black blazor or leather jacket and walk through the front door talking on a cell phone about a movie deal. You'll get the best table in the house. :)

42 posted on 08/09/2003 1:01:46 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: colorado tanker
LOL! I haven't been to California since the early 80's and that was for a business trip to LA.
43 posted on 08/09/2003 1:12:58 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: bentfeather; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
I'm in finally.
Made the mistake of going hiking, and it rained.
So I was soaked to teh bone and teh missus and I had to literally peel out of everythign to put dry stuff on.
Now I feel like I'm itching everywhere from the rain and now being dry.
Ah, the insanity of weather.
Oh, and we had some hail too...
44 posted on 08/09/2003 3:38:28 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: Darksheare
Good evening Darksheare. Hope you don't catch a cold.
45 posted on 08/09/2003 3:42:11 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: Darksheare
What no poncho? Some boyscout you are!
46 posted on 08/09/2003 3:43:16 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
I hate to see a good ship decommissioned.
But she is being replaced with the newest of the new.
Though it still stinks that the U.S.S. Ronald Reagan won't be active and fully in service for a few years yet.
(Unless the shakedown and breakin cruise goes MUCH faster.)
47 posted on 08/09/2003 3:43:19 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: SAMWolf
Hey, I was artillery, we don't CARE about rain.
*chuckle*
48 posted on 08/09/2003 3:46:35 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: Darksheare
Well my goodness!! Sit down, put your feet up, get yourself something to drink and FReep awhile!!

We had rain here this afternoon, been gloomy all day.
No hail though.
49 posted on 08/09/2003 4:02:58 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: bentfeather
#50 hehe

Thundering now.
50 posted on 08/09/2003 4:04:00 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Darksheare
I was an Engineer and then Mortars. We always cared about rain. LOL!
51 posted on 08/09/2003 4:13:59 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather
Naaah, I won't catch a cold, it was a warm rain even with the hail.
(Rather odd, but still)

Sitting in warm dry clothes, and have on my old uniform bots with mudsoles on.
(The newer issue deals..)
And if I'm not mistaken.. they STILL have Fort Drum sand inside them!
From FOUR years ago!

Ahh.. memories.
I didn't think it was possible to actually MISS falling dead asleep in the sand there...
52 posted on 08/09/2003 4:17:04 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: SAMWolf
Whenever we had low hanging clouds at Fort Drum and had a fire mission.. when we fired we knew the rain was going top come down right afterwards.

Our round or whatever would make it rain.
So we learned to not worry about it so much.
*chuckle*
But I do miss my 'puke suit' raingear.
53 posted on 08/09/2003 4:20:25 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: bentfeather
Thunder?
If there's lightning you might want to drop offline for a bit.
Never know when your surge protector is going ot be 'tested' by the storm.
And better to never find out than to find out the hard way.
*Voice of experience*
54 posted on 08/09/2003 4:21:45 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: Darksheare
No lightning just a rumble now and again. I'm running cable here, but do shut down when it's severe. Nothing happening now maybe too, quiet.

You were at Fort Drum, up state from me. The 10th Mountain Division!! rah rah!! Was up that way in Feb. when I went to watch the Hockey star, my grandson. He lives in Canada, Kingston, Ontario and plays for the team there.
55 posted on 08/09/2003 4:32:24 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: Darksheare
I've still got my old heavy OD Green Nam issue poncho. I hated the new light weight ones they issued us in the Guard.
56 posted on 08/09/2003 5:46:18 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Behind every argument is someone's ignorance.)
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Egads, those things never blocked out water, especially the ones with the CAMO PRINT on them.
The old ones, we had THREE in the whole armory, worked MUCH better.
Unfortunately, those three were issued.

I lucked out, I had the newer camo printed ones.
They were crap.
The old 1960's/70's style rain suit, which smelled the high heaven always, we called them puke suits.
They were always MUCH better than the pancho.
Unfortunately we couldn't get any replacements for them.
57 posted on 08/09/2003 6:26:00 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: bentfeather
My unit did Annual Training there.
We HAD been attached to the 10th mountain until late '96.
After that, we were detached and put into the New York Division, 27th Brigade.
(27th brigade had previosuly been part of 10th mountain, but begame a seperate supposedly light enhanced brigade.)

Rumor has it that there's some internal reorg going on still, but that's rumor.

My unit DID accidentally wander through Rome New York..
We were supposed to go past it and not through it.
We gave the navigation congrats to our Captain...
58 posted on 08/09/2003 6:30:25 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: bentfeather
I always shutdown during storms.
It's a habit I picked up after getting zorched once.
System still works, but it now has some 'flukes'.
59 posted on 08/09/2003 6:31:35 PM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it

COMMODORE JOHN BARRY MEMORIAL
Boston Common, along Tremont Street
(Next to Visitors Information Center)

Battle of Trenton

Battle of Princeton

The USS United States versus HMS Macedonian--October 25, 1812

As Americans were still celebrating the victory of the Constitution over the Guerrière, Captain Stephen Decatur brought news of the defeat of yet another British frigate. On October 25, 1812, while the United States cruised five hundred miles west of the Canary Islands, Decatur sighted the Macedonian, under the command of Captain John Carden. The two ships engaged one another, and Decatur proved himself a man of vigorous action. British survivors reported that the United States fired her guns at such a high rate that the smoke caused the crew of the Macedonian to believe she had caught fire. But such was not the case, and after only ninety minutes of pounding, the Macedonian struck her colors and became a prize of the United States. Decatur, again the hero, arrived in New York with the Macedonian flying the American flag.

On the 25th, soon after daylight, in latitude 29° north, longitude 29°30' west, this American 44 fell in with, on her weather beam, the British 38-gun frigate Macedonian, Captain John Carden. The latter, then steering north-west-by-west, with the wind to the southward, immediately bore-up towards the United-States; whose force and national character (her colours being hoisted) were soon made out. At nine o'clock, finding that the British frigate was bearing down to the attack in a heedless and confident manner, the United-States opened a fire from her long 24's; almost every shot of which struck either the hull or masts of the Macedonian. As the latter closed and hauled-up to fire her broadside, the American frigate bore-way a little, to retain the advantage of her superior skill in gunnery. Thus was the action maintained until nearly ten o'clock: by which time all the carronades on the Macedonian'sengaged side had been disabled, and much other damage and a very serious loss incurred; while the United-States was comparatively uninjured.

Satisfied now, that her opponent was more than half beaten, and that there was little danger in closing with her, the United-States backed her main topsail, and, coming to the wind, opened a rapid and most destructive fire from the whole of her broadside; receiving in return the main-deck fire alone of the Macedonian, and that too ill-directed to be of much effect.

By the time the action, from its commencement, had lasted full two hours, the Macedonian had had her mizen-mast shot away by the board and her fore and main topmasts by the caps, her main yard cut to pieces, lower masts badly wounded, rigging of every sort destroyed, a small portion only of the fore-sail left to the yard, two guns on the main deck, and all on the quarter-deck and forecastle but two, disabled: she had also received upwards of a hundred shots in the hull, several of them between wind and water; had all her boats, except the jolly-boat towing astern, destroyed, and a great portion of her crew killed and wounded.

While the British frigate lay in this defenceless condition, the American, in a comparatively perfect state, having shot ahead, was about to place herself in a raking position on the former's bow. No alternative therefore remained; and at a few minutes past eleven the Macedonian hauled down her colours.

The Frigate Constellation under sail for the last time 1893

The Constellation, a 36 gun frigate of 1,265 tons, was launched at Baltimore, Md., September 7, 1797, the year in which the frigate United States and Constitution were launched. She is still in the service, and is now the station training ship of the Naval Training Station at Newport, R.I.

I was on Constellation in 1970 in Boston. It has remained afloat over two centuries while Ted Kennedy sank his Oldsmobile the first year.

His son, Stephen Decatur, naval officer, born in Sinnepuxent, Maryland, 5 January 1779; died near Bladensburg, Maryland, 22 March, 1820. He made a voyage with his father in 1787. At the age of seventeen he was employed by Messrs. Gurney and Smith, of Philadelphia (who were agents for the navy), and went to New Jersey to superintend the getting out of the keel pieces for the frigate "United States," m which ship he was launched, and which he successfully commanded in the war of 1812'5. Through the aid of Commander Barry, he obtained a warrant as midshipman, dated 30 April, 1798, and was placed on board the frigate " United States." He was at that time nineteen years of age, well informed" for his age, chivalrous in temper, courteous in his deportment, and adding grace of manner to an attractive person. While attached to the frigate "United States" under Com. Barry, Decatur cruised in the West Indies, capturing several French privateers that were preying upon American Commerce. He labored hard to make himself master of his profession. On one occasion the " United States" chased the French privateer "L'Amour de la Patrie," of six guns, which vessel, in attempting to escape, received a twenty-four pound shot at her waterline from the "United States." She at once shortened sail and surrendered, and Decatur was sent in a boat to take possession. When he got alongside, "L'Amour de la Pattie" was sinking fast, and the crew, stripped of their clothing, were assembled at the side, begging to be taken into the boat. As it was impossible to take on board sixty men, Decatur ordered the French captain to put his helm up and run down to the frigate as the only chance of saving the crew. This was done, and though the vessel sank when within fifty yards of the " United States," the crew was saved to a man.

60 posted on 08/09/2003 6:53:19 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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