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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Invasion of Japan - Operation Olympic(11/1/1945) - Aug. 15th, 2003
pearlharborsurvivorsonline.org ^ | Haile H Jaekel/James Martin Davis

Posted on 08/15/2003 12:00:16 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: snippy_about_it
There has been some debate (revision) saying the numbers were inflated and that it wouldn't have been as bad as predicted and that the Japanese would have surrendered anyway.

Based on their past performances during the war, I don't buy the arguements.
21 posted on 08/15/2003 7:37:36 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: HiJinx
Good Morning HiJinx.

This subject definately makes for an interesting "What if..."
22 posted on 08/15/2003 7:39:59 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: SAMWolf
1914 Panama Canal opens (under cost)

Fortunatly the bureaucracy put a stop to that sort of non-sense. Who knows where that could lead.
23 posted on 08/15/2003 7:40:21 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Johnny Gage
How many of us would not be here today, because their family members died during this invasion

Good Morning, Johnny.

It is a sobering thought isn't it?

24 posted on 08/15/2003 7:41:35 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: HiJinx
One brother and two brothers in law.
25 posted on 08/15/2003 7:42:23 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: Valin

LOL! I think we've perfected the self-perpetuating bureaucracy.

26 posted on 08/15/2003 7:43:36 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: SAMWolf
It's pretty messy for the bird, too...
27 posted on 08/15/2003 8:12:18 AM PDT by HiJinx (The Right person, in the Right place, at the Right time...to do His work.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
I recommend John Ray Skates' The Invasion of Japan-Alternative to the Bomb for further reading on plans for Olympic and Coronet. Richard Frank's Downfall-The End of the Japanese Empire is another excellent reference.

The fact is the A-bombs killed far less people than would have died if the invasion had happened, or even if the plans for blockade and conventional bombardment had continued.

My wife's aunt and cousin died at Nagasaki, but even she believes this now.

28 posted on 08/15/2003 8:35:41 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY (20 years in the Navy; never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: GATOR NAVY
Thanks Gator Navy. Good to see you.

It's true it would have been worse for both us and the Japanese had the bombs not been used.

29 posted on 08/15/2003 8:39:19 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: Johnny Gage
Agreed. The extent we were willing to go deploying all those troops is astounding...we made the right choice.
30 posted on 08/15/2003 8:40:25 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: bentfeather; Darksheare; SAMWolf
feather and Darksheare, you two New Yorkers check in when you can and let us know how you are.

Our other New Yorker (that we know of) is Victoria and we know she still had power late last night but we haven't heard from you two.

We hope you are making it through okay.
31 posted on 08/15/2003 8:45:21 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: HiJinx
My father was slated to go in on Coronet, I believe. He'd already been hit on Okinawa, as had 90% of his Marine company, and he knew he was in for it. (He ended up giving 35 years to the USMC, fighting in Korea and three tours in Viet Nam.)
Hurray for the Bomb, for otherwise I wouldn't be here!
32 posted on 08/15/2003 9:10:34 AM PDT by warchild9
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To: HiJinx
LOL! Never used a bird for a hankie?
33 posted on 08/15/2003 9:10:39 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
"The Invasion of Japan-Alternative to the Bomb"

I read that one, also a good novel called "The Burning Mountain". Trying to get my hands on a book called" Death is Lighter than a Feather" another novel based on the innvasion of Japan.

34 posted on 08/15/2003 9:13:16 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: SAMWolf
I'll look for those at the library.
35 posted on 08/15/2003 9:15:16 AM PDT by GATOR NAVY (20 years in the Navy; never drunk on duty - never sober on liberty)
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Darksheare
Feather managed to post at the Belve saying she was going to be gone for a few days.

Just heard a report that a cup of Darksheares coffee was spilled on a control panel at a plant in Ohio. News at 11.
36 posted on 08/15/2003 9:15:57 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: warchild9
I thank your dad for his years of service.
37 posted on 08/15/2003 9:16:56 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks for letting me know about feather.

Just heard a report that a cup of Darksheares coffee was spilled on a control panel at a plant in Ohio. News at 11.

I didn't do it!

38 posted on 08/15/2003 9:18:21 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
"Burning Mountain" is interesting becasue it's main character is an American Officer who was raised in Japan as a child, speaks the language and has childhood friends and a girlfriend in Japan.
39 posted on 08/15/2003 9:18:43 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
"Burning Mountain" is interesting becasue it's main character is an American Officer who was raised in Japan as a child, speaks the language and has childhood friends and a girlfriend in Japan.


40 posted on 08/15/2003 9:29:26 AM PDT by SAMWolf (A bird in the hand makes blowing the nose difficult.)
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