What does the Bible actually say about being gay?

BBC ^ | October 23, 2003 | BBC

[JesseHousman]

#38 is dead on!

[Fester Chugabrew]

"Why don't we discuss fornicators,slanderers,thieves,adulterers,like we do homosexuals?

Could it be because only one of the above has an organized, political agenda to make their immoral behavior acceptable, even appreciated?

[joesnuffy]

God pretty much spoke his mind on the subject at Sodom and Gomorahh

But you forget (the author that is) that Jesus

IS "God" the Son ..who became Jesus upon willingly assuming the human form of the Son of Mary in order to be sacrificed on sinnners behalf..

"God" the Son "God" the Father and "God" the Holy Spirit have always been together...have NEVER been apart

"If you have seen the Father you have seen the Son"

"I and my father are one"

"Come let us make man in OUR image"

"There was nothing not made by Him"

The notion that Jesus has some different ideas than the Father is absurd..and not biblical

Everything the Father has said is said by Jesus...yesterday today tomorrow...never changes..

The Old Testament was written by Jesus as well as the New...

God the Father God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are united on every issue in the entire bible...

God is 100% opposed to the Sodomite and Lesbian life style...

For that matter they are also opposed to any sexual activity outside of marriage

[Fzob]

You seem to have missed my point

Fornicators, slanderers, thieves, adulterers et al are not trying to convince the world that the bible can be interpreted to mean these sins are not really sins. Neither are they attempting to inoculate society with the notion that fornicators, slanderers, thieves, and adulterers are normal behaviors.

[biblewonk]

The wording in the bible is not ambiguous and my version says "know" not intercourse.

[punster]

"To protect his visitors from an act which Lot describes as "wicked", he offers the crowd his two virgin daughters instead."

It is interesting to note that Lot was offering to sell his two young daughters into prostitution, to placate the townspeople. It sure shows a bad attitude towards women, doesn't it?

[biblewonk]

He also says that about getting college degrees and promotions and raises and wealth but not quite as specifically.

[MEG33]

I asked the question and appreciate the feedback.I am opposed to the pushing this lifestyle in school or anywhere or for giving special privilege.

[biblewonk]

And the penalty, in the Bible, for eating shrimp is??

You don't get to be a Jew anymore.

[Fudd]

...there are no organized groups out there proudly calling themselves "theives and adulterers", who go about trying to legitimize their sin by pushing for minority status and asking for public funding for their health care, and even promoting their filth amongst our children in public schools.

Wait, you forgot about the Democratic Party.

But I do like your answer.

[biblewonk]

Why don't we discuss fornicators,slanderers,thieves,adulterers,like we do homosexuals?

This is not an answer to your question but a thought your question brings back to mind. In the bible we see many prostitutes getting almost honorable mention. There are lots of prostitutes in the bible but the two that come to mind as honorable mention are Rahab who helps Isreal take Jerico(sp) and the 2 prostitutes that come to Solomon. I can't help but notice that these two prostitutes are more loving mothers than a lot of the carreer women and sluts of today that kill their unborn babies.

But you never every once see anywhere in the bible and honorable mention of a Sodomite. They are simply called dogs and there is never one that does anything note worthy in the bible except to try and rape other men.

[Alouette]

He said the same about eating shrimp.

The original Hebrew uses two completely different words for eating shrimp and homosexual behavior.

[Cvengr]

One might note that in order to interpret the Scripture as allowing homosexuality, one has to read that interpretation into Scripture and stretch the point rather far.

If one simply confessed all sins to God, let Him judge the issue, then read Scripture from the point of view of obedience to whatever and however the Holy Spirit leads the Christian to mature, then nowhere is one tempted to accept homosexuality as being condoned in Scripture. Quite the opposite, the God-filled inclination is to view it as an abomination.

Perhaps the better categorical label than "pro-gay vs antigay' would be 'feces-loving vs feces dispelling'.

[Havoc]

That is what happens when strict adherance to scripture is not maintained. People have been under the impression that they can write things into the scriptures that aren't there and extrapolate verses to support doctrines that are nowhere therein defined. That isn't Christianity - it is Philosophy playing at religion and sheep dipping for effect.
Christians need to stand up and call it what it is.

[itsinthebag]

There isn't anything "gay" about a homosexual lifestyle, especially when the average age of death for homosexual men is 41 years and for lesbians 44 years.

[MEG33]

Thank you.I believe it is the sin against nature that has the homosexual put in a different place.Paul did list these sins all together as abominations.

[Cvengr]

It also displays that some sins are more evil than others and homosexuality ranks extremely perverse. It would have been better for a single instance of submission by the father and his daughters than to condone or not oppose homosexuality, especially an attempt to corrupt messengers of God.

It's an outstanding example though of the severity in our present day situation. In Lot's case, messengers of God were being attacked by homosexuality with the consequence of the entire people and their city being destroyed.

Consider now that the highest offices of the church are being assaulted again by homosexuality. In parallel, the US is in jeopardy of divine destruction to the point that even believers might be destroyed unless we remain steadfast in our faith to Him and oppose the homosexual advance upon any and all aspects of society.

[Non-Sequitur]

The New Testament continues to call homosexual relations a sin and an abomination.

But not Jesus. In fact, He never said a word on the subject. He had plenty to say on divorce, though, and that practice is promoted by the government. Go figure.

[biblewonk]

It's definitely a sin that God seems less willing to work with. Sodomites find extremely little comfort from the scriptures where as a dirty old man like myself finds lots of comfort. A good topic of debate, unlike this article, is whether or not a homo can be a Christian.

[Just mythoughts]

I thought that's what we do when we talk about bjclinton.

Most bank robbers go to jail.

NOw the slanderers "lying liberals" do get a pass.

Thus far the "fornicators, slanderers, thieves, and adulterers have not demanded and been given, their acts declared a "civil right".