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To: jpsb
Are you serious? Did you realize that the Japanese had already surrendered? Do you all know why MacArthur did not get the ETO leadership and it was given to lower level officer (Eisenhower)? Because MacArthur could not follow orders! Both Political parties knew it and witnessed it.
It seems some of you on this thread have decided that following and hero worship is more important than thinking and understanding a tragic character flaw in MacArthur.
32 posted on 01/31/2004 11:50:36 AM PST by RunningJoke
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To: RunningJoke
[Are you serious? Did you realize that the Japanese had already surrendered?]

The Government of Japan had surrendered, true. But the armed forces still their arms and were still under the command of officers that would rather die then suffer defeat. It really was a brave move, and helped the General to earned the respect of the Japanesse.

Seems to me, your entire argument is based on his leaving Bataan. Do you know how he left Bataan? Do you know why he left Bataan. Do you know that his campaigns in WW 2 all aimed at returning to his command in Bataan.

Do you know that the navy plan was concerning the Philippines. I'll tell you, it was to fire up the boilers and steam to Perl Harbors at full speed. It is amazing that MacAuthors forces held up the Japanese for as long as they did. His tactics in defense were brilliant. All the other commands in the far east were over run in a matter of weeks except Mac Authors.

As for Ike, do you know that Ike was for many years, Mac Authors second in the Philippines? One could argue that Ike learned quire a bit (besides acting) serving with Mac Author. So even Ike, had a very Strong connection to MacAuthor. Patton gave his superiors (Ike) a hard time too, is Patton also a bum?

Ok, back to Truman, did you know that Truman ordered the seventh fleet to guard the chicom flank during the Korean war. GUARD THE ENEMY FLANK FOR GOD's SAKE! Truman was a fool and MacAuthor knew it. Never before in the history of warfare has a general had his own damn forces ordered to guard the enemies flank! And guess what with their flank secure the Chicom were able to move into Korea the forces that attacked and overran the American under MacAuthor. Now you tell me how you would react to such stupidity.

37 posted on 01/31/2004 2:25:53 PM PST by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: RunningJoke
As well versed as you appear to be about MacArthur, did you know he and FDR were related??? Also FDR and others did not want him in presidential politics. Also, Gen. Marshall and the others shared your disdain for MacArthur so much that when the 5th stars were handed out, they were petty enough to make his promotion after theirs, Ike and the rest, even tho MacArthur was the senior officer in the military. To his credit MacArthur said nothing.

I would like to view the wartime records of Ike, Marshall and most of the other "heros". Most have none.

53 posted on 02/01/2004 10:08:40 AM PST by cynicom
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