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Joel C. Rosenberg: Two Great Dissidents - Natan Sharansky’s vision, and President Bush’s
National Review Online ^ | November 19, 2004 | Joel C. Rosenberg

Posted on 11/19/2004 8:13:32 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy

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I'm reading it now.
1 posted on 11/19/2004 8:13:33 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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Interesting....


2 posted on 11/19/2004 8:16:38 AM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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Rice smiled. "I'm reading it because the president is reading it, and it's my job to know what the president is thinking."

Mayby this kind of thinking will produce a more consistent message coming out of the White House.

3 posted on 11/19/2004 8:20:30 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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Thanks for the post. No doubt the book will now( if it hasn't already) get a bad review from the N.Y. Slimes. The left will be surprised that Bush, the evil genius or dumb redneck (Dems can never make up their little minds on that one), can read. Democracy will march on; the liberals will wail in the dust.


4 posted on 11/19/2004 8:22:20 AM PST by JeeperFreeper
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The left will be surprised that Bush, the evil genius or dumb redneck (Dems can never make up their little minds on that one), can read.

Liberals will never believe that the President would recommend a book. They presume it's always the other way around.

5 posted on 11/19/2004 8:27:42 AM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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No doubt the book will now( if it hasn't already) get a bad review from the N.Y. Slimes.

I'm actually curious to find out; I don't see how they could pan it. This is great Schadenfreude; I think the left will squirm bigtime. The book validates Bush's policies. It does mildly criticize the execution of the Iraq War.

I think ultimately for cover the Left will fall back on virulent criticism of how badly Bush bungled the invasion, not the idea of toppling Saddam.

6 posted on 11/19/2004 8:35:06 AM PST by NutCrackerBoy
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Hmmm, very interesting. But I thought GW didn't know how to read. Gee, that's what the MSM keeps saying.


7 posted on 11/19/2004 8:38:23 AM PST by hershey
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Wow. Thanks for posting this article.

Sharansky has been one of my heroes since the early days of the Soviet Jewry movement in the early 1970s.

I never understood why his political party failed to get traction in Israel. His analysis is that the Russian immigrants didn't need a party that focussed just on them, but in fact he tried to expand his party to include English-speaking immigrants and others as well.


8 posted on 11/19/2004 8:39:38 AM PST by Piranha
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Sharansky:

"I told the president, 'There is a great difference between politicians and dissidents. Politicians are focused on polls and the press. They are constantly making compromises. But dissidents focus on ideas. They have a message burning inside of them. They would stand up for their convictions no matter what the consequences.'

"I told the president, 'In spite of all the polls warning you that talking about spreading democracy in the Middle East might be a losing issue — despite all the critics and the resistance you faced — you kept talking about the importance of free societies and free elections. You kept explaining that democracy is for everybody. You kept saying that only democracy will truly pave the way to peace and security. You, Mr. President, are a dissident among the leaders of the free world.'"

He [Sharansky] is convinced that democratic institutions can take hold throughout the Middle East. He concedes it will not be easy, but argues the key is bold moral leadership from the West of the kind that Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher demonstrated in the 1980s.

"Everybody knows that weapons of mass destruction are very dangerous in the hands of terrorists," says Sharansky, his passion as strong as his accent. "But very few people understand how powerful weapons of mass construction can be in the hands the free world. There are so many skeptics, so many people who doubt whether Iraqis and Palestinians really want to live in freedom, or whether democracy in the Middle East is really such a good idea. But I lived under a totalitarian regime. I know the horrors of these regimes from the inside. I know they can be transformed. They won't be perfect, and they won't agree with us on every issue. But it is better to have a democracy that hates you than a dictatorship that loves you."



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9 posted on 11/19/2004 8:51:50 AM PST by Tolik
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10 posted on 11/19/2004 8:55:11 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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"You, Mr. President, are a dissident among the leaders of the free world.'"

Cool!

Dan

11 posted on 11/19/2004 8:58:01 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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I was in Berlin when Natan Sharansky was exchanged on Glienicker Bridge in 1986. He got in Ambassador Burt's car and rolled through the streets of West Berlin. He asked Burt if he could wave to the some of the people lining the streets. Burt responded, "You are a free man now, you don't have to ask permission." While in the car, Sharansky received a call from President Reagan congratulating him on his release. I shook Sharansky's hand when he was processed at Templehof airport. It was a magical moment for all involved. He is a great man with tremendous courage and unwavering principles. It was men like him and Reagan who helped lead to the downfall of the Soviet Union.
12 posted on 11/19/2004 9:06:12 AM PST by kabar
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I've read it. It makes a powerful argument for freedom and I've yet to see one opponent make the claim people prefer tyranny to freedom. In every case, a dictatorship has to be imposed by force and kept in power by force over the wishes of the people. And such a regime has to spend all its enegies into controlling its own people, thwarting them from even tasting the fruits of freedom that could bring it down. Fear societies look strong from the outside but because they lack genuine support, are in reality brittle and the slightest spark from within can doom them. That is why history is with free societies. Never underestimate the power of freedom.


13 posted on 11/19/2004 9:16:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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But I thought GW didn't know how to read. Gee, that's what the MSM keeps saying.

Hehehe. I lent a left leaning friend a copy of Theodore Rex, Edmund Morris' biography of Theodore Roosevelt. He had it for two months. I bugged him to finish it because I hadn't read it yet myself. What finally worked was when I said, "it only took President Bush a couple weeks to read it."

Truth is I have no idea how long it took Bush to read the book, but it sure lit a fire under Lefty and got me my book back!

14 posted on 11/19/2004 9:41:09 AM PST by Stultis
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I was in Berlin when Natan Sharansky was exchanged on Glienicker Bridge in 1986.

I was here in Texas, but I remember that day. A great day in the world and a great day for freedom in Ronald Reagan's America!

15 posted on 11/19/2004 9:45:35 AM PST by Stultis
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The left will be surprised that Bush, the evil genius or dumb redneck (Dems can never make up their little minds on that one), can read.
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Similarly, I read 'Ronald Reagan: a life in letters' and you never saw such intelligent writings. The left called him stupid too... Notice that they attack the person, not their ideas.


16 posted on 11/19/2004 9:56:36 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm)
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I read that one too (theodeore Rex). There is an earlier one my dad is bugging me to read that is just as good.

Another good one is 'john Adams'. The new one, forget who by. Very patriotic and indirectly discusses the essence of Conservatism.


17 posted on 11/19/2004 9:58:28 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm)
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I just bought it on amazon a second ago.


18 posted on 11/19/2004 10:01:08 AM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm)
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I'm only half way. Don't give away the ending!


19 posted on 11/19/2004 10:10:49 AM PST by Stultis
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The President reads upside down remember.


20 posted on 11/19/2004 11:06:49 AM PST by priceofreedom (On A Roadmap To Hell)
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