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Ex-CIA Microbiologist Reveals Iraqi Plot to Attack US With Biowarfare by 2002 [Please read]
Video Interview | 1997 | Larry Wayne Harris

Posted on 09/21/2001 4:14:11 PM PDT by jedediah smith

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Also, the Pentagon told me, flat out, that they have already run contingency plans on Washington, D.C. They said right now, we have, in Washington, D.C., one hospital that is set up to take care of biological casualties. That hospital had two doctors and two beds. Out of the doctors' own mouths, they said "We would have tens of thousands of people die waiting for treatment." Quite frankly, we have no warning equipment, stuff of this nature.

Now, what the Pentagon told me, that the casualty management team, if we lost 4,000 people in a single day, it would literally overwhelm everything we had, it would panic us out of existence. Now a single container, let's just go to New York City, let's just take New York City as an example. We're going to run a little tape about just what would happen in New York City if someone used a single container of anthrax and a commercial paint sprayer which is very inefficient.

[Plays a video narrated by Bill Curtis of A&E]
Curtis: "White House Security experts have examined just such a scenario. A small ship, sailing just off Manhattan, up the Hudson River, could disperse anthrax spores using an industrial paint sprayer. Within 48 hrs., over 400,000 people would die. Long before then the boat would have been destroyed, the terrorists would have escaped." ...

[Harris resumes]
If they would hit a single city, New York City, with a single container of anthrax, just one, we are going to lose upwards of 400,000 people. But see that's with a commercial paint sprayer. This thing [gesturing to a chemostat unit confiscated from an Iraqi cell unit] is far more efficient than a commercial paint sprayer...With this little unit here you might even go as much as 1 million people...

Now, the question is, this is from the Pentagon, what do you do with the bodies? Our mortuaries are set up right now, that if, for so many deaths per thousand people...The problem is disposing of the corpses. You see, with anthrax, if a person dies, in place, and you leave the bodies laying around, they will decompose. After they decompose, the wind starts blowing through them, the remains and the anthrax spores start coming up into the air again...

1 posted on 09/21/2001 4:14:11 PM PDT by jedediah smith
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To: jedediah smith
I started to post this last year, but figured it would not be believed. I think recent events may have opened peoples' minds to the dangers we face.

Not to sound alarmist, but if anyone should happen to see any middle-eastern people with a device that looks similar to a bug sprayer, paint sprayer, etc. especially with tubes coming out of it, this is cause for immediate suspicion. And although it is unlikely you would ever see it, it would be wise to be alert for any suspicious vehicles or small planes emitting an unusual fog or mist.

2 posted on 09/21/2001 4:21:48 PM PDT by jedediah smith
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To: roughrider, Jeff Head, rdavis84, t-shirt, mancini, LSJohn, Fred Mertz, Uncle Bill, Pamela
FYI.
3 posted on 09/21/2001 4:23:54 PM PDT by jedediah smith
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To: jedediah smith
Summarize much?
4 posted on 09/21/2001 4:24:27 PM PDT by Silly
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To: freedomnews, Boyd, Wallaby, BlueDogDemo, Nita Nupress, Alamo-Girl
FYI.
5 posted on 09/21/2001 4:25:06 PM PDT by jedediah smith
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To: jedediah smith
If this is the case then we must nuke these sons of bitches out of existence. Men, women and children -- nuke them out of existence. Another unfortunate necessity will be the mandatory internment of all middle eastern nationals living in this country (USA). War is war.
6 posted on 09/21/2001 4:30:06 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: jedediah smith
If this is the case then we must nuke these sons of bitches out of existence. Men, women and children -- nuke them out of existence. Another unfortunate necessity will be the mandatory internment of all middle eastern nationals living in this country (USA). War is war.
7 posted on 09/21/2001 4:30:13 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot
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To: jedediah smith
keep an eye on crop dusters too. seriously. think about it.
8 posted on 09/21/2001 4:32:24 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: jedediah smith
This isn't the guy that got arrested in Las Vegas a couple years ago, is it?
9 posted on 09/21/2001 4:32:26 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: jedediah smith
This is essentially C*R*A*P
10 posted on 09/21/2001 4:32:26 PM PDT by rmvh
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To: jedediah smith
Marked for later
11 posted on 09/21/2001 4:33:08 PM PDT by WyldKard
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To: jedediah smith
This is a "you already flagged most of the people I would have flagged" bump!
12 posted on 09/21/2001 4:34:35 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: jedediah smith
nuke, nuke, nuke. nuke, nuke, nuke. nuke, nuke, nuke. smoke'em out of america. nuke their 'general contractors' ie, nation states dabbling and harboring terrorists, warning shots first to give them 30 days to comply, then nuke, nuke, nuke the major defense and government targets along with high level assasinations.
13 posted on 09/21/2001 4:35:06 PM PDT by Anonymous2
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To: Travis McGee
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14 posted on 09/21/2001 4:35:15 PM PDT by nunya bidness
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To: Jolly Rodgers
SUN Profile: Harris' troubled past includes mail fraud, white supremacy

February 23, 1998 at 10:14:35 PST
By Larry Henry
LAS VEGAS SUN

Larry Wayne Harris, who was arrested in Henderson this week after supposedly carrying enough deadly anthrax germ to "wipe out" Las Vegas, has a troubled history with fatal biological material.

Harris also is aligned with a racist, anti-semitic movement that refers to Jews as the "children of Satan" and blacks as "subhuman mud people."

A registered microbiologist who holds art degrees from Ashland University and Ohio State University, Harris, 46, who was born in Richlands, Va., was thrust into national notoriety in 1995.

In May of that year, he was arrested at his Lancaster, Ohio, home with three vials of freeze-dried yersinia pestis, an organism that causes bubonic plague.

The bubonic plague killed one-fourth of Europe in the 1300s but now can be treated with antibodies.

Harris' samples, which were inert, were in the glove compartment of his Subaru. None of the vials had been opened.

Harris reportedly paid $240 for the samples and received them via Federal Express from American Type Culture Collection, a lab in Rockville, Md.

Harris allegedly told scientists in Maryland that the samples were for his own lab, which he said had approval from Ohio authorities, and was called Small Animal Microbiology Laboratory.

However, Ohio law enforcement officials discovered that Harris did not have a lab license, and he was arrested.

Harris was charged with three counts of mail fraud and one count of wire fraud. The wire charge was based on phone calls and faxes to the Maryland lab.

Harris plea bargained in December 1995 to one count of wire fraud. In April 1997, he was placed on 18 months of probation and ordered to perform 200 hours of community service. The other three charges were dismissed.

Harris told authorities he needed the samples for research on his self-published book, "Biological Warfare: A Major Threat to North America."

The 131-page book is available on the Internet for $28.50.

In the book, Harris tells of a happenstance meeting at Ohio State University in 1991 between him and another student, an Iraqi woman named Mariam, who became a friend.

Harris wrote that he learned from Mariam that Iraq and other Middle East countries planned to spread biological disease in the United States.

Harris has said germ-carrying rats and aircraft could be used to spread disease.

In the book, Harris says the Cessna 150 is an ideal aircraft for biological attacks. That is the same model that crashed into the White House in 1995.

Harris, who claimed to have worked for the CIA from 1985 to 1990, discusses the supposed Middle East plot on a $4 cassette called "Germ Warfare in the U.S."

Harris has maintained that his book and other materials are instructions on how to survive biological attacks.

At a fair in Ohio to promote his book, Harris told people at his booth to take antibodies against the bubonic plague, which could kill millions.

"I am a scientist," he has said. "I am absolutely of no harm to anyone. I never, never intended to hurt anyone."

Mark Potok, a spokesman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, which operates Klanwatch, has monitored Harris because of his affiliation with Aryan Nations and other white supremacist groups.

While Ohio police were searching Harris' home in 1995, they discovered a certificate stating that Harris was a lieutenant in the Aryan Nations, a white separatist organization founded in prisons and based in Hayden Lake, Idaho.

Tim Bishop, a national organizer for Aryan Nations, told an Ohio newspaper that Harris joined the group in 1994.

Harris told The Columbus Dispatch before an appearance in Lancaster Municipal Court that he was a member of the Christian Identity Church, a pseudo-religious sect that preaches neo-Nazi beliefs.

Potok said Christian Identity, which is the Aryan Nations' church, has about 50,000 members and believes that "Jews are the biological children of Satan and blacks are subhuman mud people."

The Rev. Richard Butler of Christian Identity told the Lancaster Eagle-Gazette in 1995 that the Bible wants white people to "be separate and to have domination over the earth."

"You don't put chicken hawks in with chickens," Butler said, "and you don't put a fox in with rabbits. You have to separate them as God intended."

In May 1995, Ohio television station WBNS-TV reported that Harris was questioned in 1993 about perceived threats toward President Clinton.

It also reported that Harris, a former well and septic tank inspector, was a member of the National Alliance, a white supremacist group that is believed to have influenced Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.

Harris has claimed he no longer belongs to the Aryan Nations, but one official told the SUN Harris is not a member because he was kicked out.

"They don't like their members going to prison," the official said. "It's bad PR."

Potok said Harris is a concern also because of his book on germ warfare and his history with biological agents.

The FBI complaint issued after his arrest in Henderson said Harris in the summer of 1997 "told a group of plans to place a 'globe' of bubonic plague toxins in a New York subway station, where it would be broken by a passing subway train, causing hundreds of thousands of deaths."

The complaint also said Harris displayed a vial of military-strength anthrax in room 921 of the Gold Coast hotel-casino and said it could "wipe out the city."

Potok said Harris since 1995 has traveled the country inoculating his friends against anthrax.

Harris' web-based book on apocalyptic warfare urges people to stockpile antibiotics. One doctor said that Harris' recommendation for tetracycline, an antibiotic effective for treating anthrax, is five times the normal dose.

The American Society of Microbiology said today it "expects that all members will use their knowledge and skills for the advancement of human welfare and deplores the misuse of microbiological sciences."

Harris is a "registered microbiologist," meaning he is certified by the National Registry of Microbiologists under ASM.

According to the ASM requirements, Harris meets the minimum level of knowledge and has taken a minimum number of microbiology courses with a year's experience in a laboratory.

To become registered, Harris passed the ASM exam.

That shows Harris knows basic microbiology and his way around a lab, ASM spokesman Jim Sleewa said today.

Source: Las Vegas SUN and wire reports

15 posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:08 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: rmvh
Why you say so?
16 posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:23 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: rmvh
Please elaborate in support of your opinion or state your rebuttal case.
17 posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:29 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Orual, scientists
My name is Larry Wayne Harris, and I am a registered microbiologist.</font color>

Registered? Sounds hokey.

18 posted on 09/21/2001 4:36:33 PM PDT by dighton
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To: jedediah smith
Time to make lots of anthrax vaccine.
19 posted on 09/21/2001 4:38:01 PM PDT by Kerensky
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To: jedediah smith
Just a few things that make me curious.

First off, you need to inhale Anthrax in rather large concentrations (something starting around 3000 spores or so) in order to start getting a lethal infection. Which means you'd have to have thousands upon thousands of pounds of stuff and a forest fighting plane. Then you'd have to dump it over a heavily populated area, and pray that the wind doesn't dispurse it too badly. Given the current mindset of things, SOMEONE is definately going to notice a private plane dumping thousands of pounds of spores onto a city.

Also, Anthrax isn't contagious. Which means a strike burns itself out pretty quick. This is how I understand things...maybe I'm wrong.

I'm not saying we don't need to be eternally vigilant against our enemies, I'm just saying this all sounds like a big fish tale.
20 posted on 09/21/2001 4:38:05 PM PDT by WyldKard
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