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Don't mess with Canada!
Posted on 09/24/2001 6:45:30 AM PDT by Ryle
Canada's war is already over
Manley's promise of ground troops is less manly than it sounds
Mark Steyn
National Post
Last Friday, while Canadians were demanding to know why they didn't rate a name-check in President Bush's speech, a unit of Britain's special forces, the SAS, came under enemy attack deep inside Afghanistan.
There's the answer.
If affronted Canucks would step back a moment, they'd see that the unusual feature of the Presidential address was that it was almost wholly free of the polite fictions of the foreign policy establishment. There was no mention of a "global coalition" or the United Nations, or, in military terms, of the French or Italians. In the Gulf War, the grand coalition's principal contribution was to tie one hand behind America's back. In Somalia, the Italians were giving nods and winks to the local warlord, General Aideed. In the Kosovo war, at least one French officer at NATO passed advance operational information on to the Serbs.
The difference is that, in those conflicts, the U.S. military was engaged in saving far distant Muslims -- Kuwaiti Muslims, Bosnian Muslims, Somali Muslims, Albanian Muslims (as should be obvious but sadly isn't, the U.S. armed forces are the world's pre-eminent defender of Muslims) -- and it was felt politic to observe the pretense that the ideal expeditionary force should look like a global affirmative-action program. This time, however, Boston and St. Louis, Miami and Denver are at stake, and the Bush administration sees no reason to mortgage their future to any country that thinks de-mothballing a rusting frigate entitles it to a set of keys to the command module.
The word from both countries is that this "coalition," on the battlefield, will be an Anglo-American affair: The U.S. is not interested in letting anybody else into the inner sanctums of joint command. The minimum entry qualifications are that a) you have a professional, modern military and b) you share America's war aims. The French meet the former but not the latter. The Mexicans the latter but not the former. The British meet both. The Canadians meet neither.
This is a simple truth, and we should be mature enough to acknowledge it. When Mr. Chrétien says that Canada will stand "shoulder to shoulder" with the Americans, he is, in fact, describing exactly where we won't be standing. "Shoulder to shoulder" is a military expression, for comrades in arms marching forward on the field of battle. The Prime Minister is happy to deploy the term metaphorically, but that's it. Just over a week ago, when I mentioned the pitiful state of our forces, I received a lot of indignant e-mails from Canadians insisting that they were ready to enlist. I don't doubt you. But, if you did enlist, they'd have no uniforms to give you, no weapons except for Papa Jean's spare set of clubs from Royal Montreal, and no means of getting you to the battlefield except a commandeered school bus. Of the 13 NATO air forces flying missions over Kosovo, ours were the only planes without anti-jam radios, forcing all the others to downgrade their communications to the Canadian level and use a jammable single frequency. Up against a far more ruthless foe than Slobo, U.S. Defence Secretary Don Rumsfeld is not going to increase the risk to his pilots for the privilege of having a couple of maple tail fins up there.
If Canada applied to participate in joint military operations, it would be turned down -- which is why John Manley's belated promise of ground troops is less manly than it sounds. He knows full well they won't be required. His generous offer is as laughable as me offering to play in the Wimbledon men's final. The reality is that what's left of Canada's forces is too poorly equipped to share a battlefield with the Americans, the British, the Australians or any reasonably funded army. Even New Zealand, which isn't exactly a famous military power, is in a position to make a more useful contribution through its SAS, the kind of elite special forces that will be especially prized in this most modern of wars. Canada's equivalent, the secrecy-shrouded JTF2, have no international reputation except as an ill-disciplined rabble. Intelligence? CSIS is underfunded and politically irrelevant: When they report that 50 global terrorist groups are actively operating in Canada, the Prime Minister files it in the bottom drawer under his golf club bill-of-sale napkins and, if anyone brings it up, flatly denies its conclusions. Canada is the only G7 country whose government is involved in covert sabotage of its own intelligence gathering.
Yet, confronted with an obvious truth, we persist in hunting for ludicrous alternatives. Is it that Bush personally dislikes Chrétien? You can't blame the guy. In his speeches, our Prime Minister has a half-dozen jokes about what a dummy Dubya is: "I explained to him that Alberta is in Canada," etc. In person, he's boorishly patronizing: Chrétien welcoming Bush to the Summit of the Americas in Quebec: "Bienvenue." Bush: "Thank you, sir." Chrétien: "That means welcome."
But, believe it or not, when you've got a mound of 10,000 corpses, getting in a dig at some irrelevant old coot is not what's on your mind. There's a reason why Tony Blair was the foreign leader in town for the day of the big speech, and not Chirac (who dropped by the day before) or Chrétien. Had Chrétien been sitting next to the First Lady and Bush had singled him out for the same lavish praise as Blair, it would have communicated not strength but weakness, not resolve but fundamental unseriousness, as though this was just another Clintonian marshmallow campaign.
It's not. That's why Canada's war is already over. It ended when all those diverted planes took off from Gander and Halifax and Calgary, and their stranded passengers bid farewell to the many kind and generous Canadians who'd helped make those involuntary layovers as comfortable as possible. In Washington today, President Bush, who is always polite, will thank Mr. Chrétien for Canada's assistance that terrible morning, and may even venture something Colin Powellish about the non-service of remembrance on Parliament Hill. But what else can he say? As Francie Ducros said, speaking for the Prime Minister, America's friendship with Canada is so deep it "goes without saying." In that case, Bush is happy to go on not saying it for a long time. A friend who dozes in a hammock on the front porch and gives a sympathetic wave as his neighbour's being mugged is of limited value.
One can regret this, but really, why bother? The 55% of the population who support the Liberal Party evidently believes it's more important for the state to invest in the Auberge Grand-Mère than in the defence of the realm. Those of us who disagree must respect the democratic will. Canada, after all, believes that it can best project itself as (in Lloyd Axworthy's exquisite banality) a "soft power." He may be right -- as long as Osama bin Laden's boys can tell the difference between Minneapolis and Edmonton.
But since September 11th it's hard power that's needed. This will be a long and difficult campaign, and, if Canada can't make a contribution, it could at least quit whining about why its non-contribution isn't getting enough respect. As of today, the British already have SAS units and MI6 agents inside Afghanistan, plus 20,000 troops in Oman, and a Royal Navy task force, including a nuclear sub, steaming through the Red Sea. On Thursday, the President, mourning the loss of thousands of his fellow citizens, gave a sober businesslike outline of his response to the massacre. If we can no longer fight, we could at least have the good taste not to go, "But enough about world war. Let's talk about me."
Let's hope so.
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If there isn't a Steyn ping-list already there should be! He's consistently right on the mark.
Take time to remember the heroics of the Canadian armed forces at D-Day and throughout WWII. Our neighbors to the north are NOT congenital cowards.
And that was how long ago? The Canadian of old is no more. All they wish to do is the rely on everyone else to take care of them. The US defends them and they banned guns so that they don't have to worry about defending their families. Let the police do it. Healthcare? Someone elses responsibility of course. The Canadians have the government they deserve.
Instead of whining about how they were ignored in President Bush's stirring speech, perhaps they ought to strap on a set.
LOL We live in Alberta and our teenager asked this morning whether that could ever happen!
I had the misfortune of being born in communist Canada. The level of ignorance here in Toronto is astounding at times, it's just like you describe. I'm not sure if it's just because a lot of people are liberal or just because of the large number of recent immigrants from communist/facist/3rd world countries who have no concept of what 'rights' are. It's probably a mixture of both. It doesn't help that socialism is explicitly written into the Candian consitution either.
I'd prefer to leave and move to the US, but that will probably take the rest of my natural life to get legal entry. Is that even possible anymore?
In the mean time, the Canadian government and it's useful idiots come up with new ways to steal more of my money and deprive me of my rights. Making it even harder to get out of here. It's a sick game, and time I fear is running out.
To me, it's just a matter of time before Canada becomes another Mexico or some other communist ghetto. I have faith though, that one day I will be free, at the very least, my final resting place will not be on communist soil.
ROFLMAOOOOOO the canadians know their best defense is to be right next door to us---they know if they get attacked the good ol' USA will be right there to defend them.
Then, just hunker down and wait for the amnesty or "regularization" or whatever. It's still coming after all this blows over (pardon the pun).
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Don't mess with Canada!
ROTL! If things get desperate, I might try that :)
I hear you. One of Cliff Robertson's finest performances.
His archive there is at: http://www.telegraph.co.uk:80/et?ac=006112000820236&rtmo=VrDkww8K&atmo=VrDkww8K&pg=/et/missions/uselections2000/usaarchive.html
Steyn holds forth as a commentator at lewrockwell.com
His archive at the nationalpost.com (Canadian) is at: http://www.nationalpost.com/commentary/columnists/recent.html?byline='mark%20steyn'&title=MARK+STEYN&max=10&img=msteyn
Re WWII: Canada is the friend dozing in the hammock who, to the neighbor currently being kicked in the kidneys, says, "Hey, I helped out that time 60 years ago! Sheesh, what a whiner!"
Yup, you got that right. And for far too many there (we moved west decades ago), the civilized world ends just past the western boundary of the city; after that, "Here Be Dragons", as the cartographers of old would have it.
LOL.
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As the child of French Canadians I am doubly embarassed. The "Francais" Prime Minister is a total jerk.
It is worse than socialism.
Not only does the Govt not know who their friends are, they don't care.
Suggestions?
Don't forget - there's a bunch of our cowards in that gene pool, too.
I'd reckon it ain't gonna happen, but there sure are times when border controls along Manitoba's eastern boundary sound appealing ...
You're welcome here any time! Stand tall!
http://www.nationalpost.com/commentary/columnists/recent.html?byline=''mark%20steyn''&max=10&img=msteyn
This link, BTW, has all Steyn's latest articles, with an exceptional one on Canada's military might.
Knowing Canada's past heroism and what is said about it today is sad. I had an uncle in the Black Watch and his pride and patriosm was unmatched.
(See, Dog Gone, I'm a slow learner, but once I learn something there's no holding back LOL)
I live in Washington and travel to British Columbia at least twice a year to ski. I've never been to eastern Canada, but B.C. is about as leftist as any place I can imagine. Even with that, I've always enjoyed myself there and found the people in central and eastern British Columbia (from the Okanagan east to the Rockies) to be both quite conservative in thought and incredibly friendly to American visitors (well, this one anyway).
I'm sure they like my U.S. dollars, but it is more than that, they speak more favorably of us from the states than they do of those in their own provincial government.
I would love to have these people and these lands join our nation -- except then I'd lose that great exchange rate that makes my dollars go as far as a dollar did back in the 50's and 60's!!
This weekend, when I have time, I will play with it until I finally master it. You have inspired me!
100% correct. I lived in Canuckistan for 6+ years. I know how they think. I can see the world through their eyes. As far as they're concerned protecting them is our job while they squander their resources on social experiments and socialism.
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