[Coyote]

Not stunned. I've understood this for the past ten or twenty years, and in horror and frustration, have lost nearly everything in my personal life trying to get people to listen. But to very little avail.

So now we stand at the final crossroads. The enemy, within and without, will use every sleeper they have in place -- most of which, BTW, are NOT middle Eastern terrorists, but anti-Western ideologs in our educational and media systems -- to bring down the American experiment. This Americna generation will either recoginize this enemy, and rid themselves of it, or they will succumb to the relentless propaganda that will prolong this war to bring us ultimately to our knees. I don't think there's any third way out.

And I'm so angry, that I can't refrain in spite. It's my opinion, that the complicitous (education, the media), and the duplicitous (Clark and all the other the well positioned crypto-Marxists and henchmen), will NOT survive in their present, softened, well heeled form, no matter WHICH way it goes. The stakes are too high, and if the system comes crashing down, even without a final nuclear conflict, much to their chagrin, the elite Marxists will go down with it. I firmly beleive that. If I'm alive, I'll smugly remind them that "I told you so".

So the only conclusion I can come to is that they are so completely arrogant that they believe somehow they'll survive and rule over the rest of us, or like the suicide bombers, they know they'll die with the rest of us but are simply to spiteful to care. THAT'S pathalogical, and in spite of all the rhetoric to the contryary, THAT is unfortunatelly the core history of Marxism. Power for the ideologs, or destruction for EVERYONE.

[JamesinGA]

Coyote, thanks for your long fight. I'm one who only recently has awakened.

So what do we do now? Bush's restraint has thrown a wrench into their plan. Is more restraint and quiet work the answer? Or taking advantage of renewed patriotism to shine a light on the cockroaches? I'd like to know your thoughts.

[Bryan]

That's the core of Western Leftism in practice: power for the ideologues, or destruction for everyone. This is why I was so surprised during the counter-revolution in the Soviet Union that the communists, upon seeing that their empire was about to collapse from within, refrained from firing even one of their nuclear missiles.

This taught me that deep down inside, even a Russian Marxist doesn't want mass destruction. Only an American or Western European Leftist -- as found on our university campuses, in the media, on the threads of the left-wing Internet hate sites, and among the leaders of the Democratic Party -- harbors a secret desire for complete anarchy. They pay lip service to Marxist theory, Coyote, but their core beliefs are anarchist, not Marxist.