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Tapes reveal poison plan
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 10/14/2001 | John Follain and Nicholas Rufford

Posted on 10/13/2001 4:37:52 PM PDT by Pokey78

SECRETLY recorded tapes have revealed plans by followers of Osama Bin Laden for a chemical weapon attack in Europe using a poisonous invisible gas that security sources say was cyanide.

A gang of terrorists active in Britain, Germany and Italy plotted to use tins of tomatoes to transport "a liquid that suffocates people". The plan was foiled after a Libyan at the centre of the plot was arrested in Munich on Wednesday.

The evidence is the first that Bin Laden's Al-Qaeda organisation was preparing to use weapons of mass destruction. The tapes were made by Italian anti-terrorist police, who bugged an apartment outside Milan that the gang thought was a safe house. The suspects discussed getting 10 litres of the poison, enough to kill thousands if released indoors.

One theory is that the group planned to spread the poison in an American government building in London or Rome. A witness who trained in one of Bin Laden's camps said he was instructed how to put cyanide in a building's ventilation system.

The tins of tomatoes could have been used to transport cyanide crystals before they were dissolved into a liquid, which could then be dispersed through the ventilation ducts. If large quantities were available, the vapour produced could kill many occupants of a building within 10 minutes.

The transcripts are part of evidence compiled by Stefano Dambruoso, an Italian prosecutor, against five suspected members of the Salafist Group for Faith and Combat, a militant offshoot of the Armed Islamic Group (GIA), backed by Bin Laden. The five are in custody in Milan. At least two had links to Britain.

Last Friday the US Treasury named the Islamic Cultural Institute in Milan, to which cell members were linked, as "the most important base of Al-Qaeda in Europe". It said the institute was used by Bin Laden's organisation "as a station from which weapons, men and money travel the whole world".

The clandestine recordings were made in March and April, when gang members were becoming impatient to receive instructions from Bin Laden and to be told the target. They also reveal claims that female followers of Bin Laden were being trained as potential suicide attackers.

The most chilling conversations took place between Ben Heni Mohamed Lased, a 32-year-old Libyan arrested in Munich last week, and Essid Sami Ben Khemais, 31, a Tunisian, believed to be the leader of the Italian cell, who was arrested in Milan in April. Khemais is believed to have met Mohammed Atta, one of the 19 hijackers behind the American attacks.

Khemais and Lased spent a week in an apartment near Milan to plan terrorist atrocities, unaware it was bugged. Lased is heard trying to teach Khemais to conceal a bomb in a personal cassette player, to which Khemais responds by asking about chemical weapons: "I'd like to learn how to use the medicine, I'd like to see what effect it has when someone breathes it in. The Libyan has the formula; he's a chemistry professor."

Another activist said: "What's going on - you are putting down your guns and taking up industrial products?" Lased replied: "There's a liquid which is extremely efficient because it suffocates people. Do you want to try it?" The other man said: "Yes, why not. A few barrels."

In another conversation, Khemais urges Lased to get in touch with "the sheikh", believed to be Bin Laden, about recruiting attackers.

"Talk to the sheikh. I need two people who I have already got in mind, the Libyan and the Kurd from London. What I need is not an army but two people who have got a brain, training and nothing to lose or to gain. They spread the gas and say goodbye. I only need a barrel of 10 litres and a few documents. God is with us."

On the evening of March 9, Lased confided: "Believe me, the sheikh is planning something. He has an objective and he wants to realise it, just like he has achieved all his desires. It's not a little thing."

Predicting the success of Bin Laden's terror campaign, Lased said: "God loves us because Europe is now in our hands. Now we are emigrant fighters, that's the task we've got to carry out with honour. We have to be like snakes. We have to fight and then hide."

Lased also explains how to reach Bin Laden's training camps by obtaining a visa from Iran's London embassy, ostensibly for visiting Mecca. "In Iran there is an organisation which helps mujaheddin brothers to cross the border. There's total collaboration with the Iranians," he said.

Khemais talked about trips to Afghanistan during which he saw Bin Laden's weapons, including captured US cruise missiles launched against the camps in 1998 but which failed to explode.

"The Americans are probably convinced that bombing the sheikh's training camps was a victory, but the truth is it was a defeat. Most of the weapons didn't even explode and they have enriched the sheikh's arsenal," he claimed.


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1 posted on 10/13/2001 4:37:52 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
Time to take off the gloves
2 posted on 10/13/2001 4:42:00 PM PDT by AngrySpud
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To: Pokey78
Either: NUKE 'EM NOW or:

Cut heads off and sew them into pig bellies and send to the families.

3 posted on 10/13/2001 5:17:26 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: Pokey78
Time for?


4 posted on 10/13/2001 5:24:34 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe; FReethesheeples
So who do we nuke? Iran? Libya? Iraq? Sudan?
5 posted on 10/13/2001 5:29:46 PM PDT by dbbeebs
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So who do we nuke?

That's what the C-in-C's for...

6 posted on 10/13/2001 5:33:38 PM PDT by backhoe
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That's what the C-in-C's for...

We don't know who to nuke. So let's nuke "them" anyway. Great.

7 posted on 10/13/2001 5:36:10 PM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: Pokey78
For those who might not know, the cyanide mentioned is either NaCN or KCN. When added to a HCl solution, HCN gas is produced.

NaCN - sodium cyanide
KCN - potassium cyanide
HCl - hydrochloric or muriatic acid

8 posted on 10/13/2001 5:37:11 PM PDT by rightofrush
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"In Iran there is an organisation which helps mujaheddin brothers to cross the border. There's total collaboration with the Iranians," he said.

What do you make of this statement?

9 posted on 10/13/2001 5:38:07 PM PDT by Ranger
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To: dbbeebs
Three in one, one in three.

Nuke 'em all & hang 'em high.

10 posted on 10/13/2001 5:39:11 PM PDT by FReethesheeples
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To: dbbeebs
So who do we nuke? Iran? Libya? Iraq? Sudan?

Ummmmm....YES!
11 posted on 10/13/2001 5:40:39 PM PDT by Honcho
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To: dbbeebs
We don't know who to nuke. So let's nuke "them" anyway. Great.

I didn't say that, varmint- don't put words in my mouth!

13 posted on 10/13/2001 5:43:56 PM PDT by backhoe
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"Either: NUKE 'EM NOW or: Cut heads off and sew them into pig bellies and send to the families."

But wait! We can't do that! Jane Fonda says we must first try to understand them and find the cause for their rage. We have to have some sort of dialog with them. Maybe if we understood them we could all live in peace.

I say after reading this, we have all the "understanding" we need.

14 posted on 10/13/2001 5:45:13 PM PDT by StormEye
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To: dbbeebs
e. All of the above?
15 posted on 10/13/2001 5:46:22 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for bringing this article to our attention. Kudos to the Italian Police. They don't have to worry about no steenkin' ACLU tying their hands with regard to wiretapping. When is our government going to wise up? NO MORE political correctness. LOTS MORE racial profiling. This is war! Get cracking, you feebs in the FBI and you scotch-swilling lazy bums in the CIA. If you guys don't do the job, we PATRIOTS will be glad to take over.

FREEEEDOM!

16 posted on 10/13/2001 5:51:11 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: dbbeebs
Yep.
17 posted on 10/13/2001 5:51:45 PM PDT by clee1
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To: Pokey78
SEND THEM TO ALLAH!!!!!!!!!!
18 posted on 10/13/2001 5:52:14 PM PDT by luv2ndamend
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To: dbbeebs
All of them.
19 posted on 10/13/2001 5:56:57 PM PDT by Vicki
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To: dbbeebs
Kill 'em all and let God sort them out.
20 posted on 10/13/2001 5:59:40 PM PDT by culpeper
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