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Saudi Students Praise 9-11 Attack at San Diego State University
San Diego State University Daily Aztec | 10-17-01 | Jason Williams, Editor

Posted on 10/17/2001 4:30:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee

10/17/01

Student: Attack praised

Conversation of three Saudi students about Sept. 11 events overheard in library

By Jason Williams

Managing Editor

On Saturday, Sept. 22, Zewdalem Kebede, a political science senior and native Ethiopian, was studying in the Reserve Book Room in Love Library. Nearby, a group of Saudi Arabian students sat talking in Arabic -- a language Kebede speaks fluently, having learned it in his native country.

He was attracted to their conversation when the topic shifted to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"They started talking about the Sept. 11 action," he said. "And with that action they were very pleased. They were happy. And they were regretting of missing the 'Big House.'

"It was a long chitchat."

Kebede tried to continue studying, attempting to ignore the students, but finally he approached their table and spoke to them.

"Guys, what you are talking is unfair. How do you feel happy when those 5 to 6,000 people are buried in two or three buildings?" Kebede said. "They are under the rubble or they became ash.

"And you are talking about the action of bin Laden and his group. You are proud of them. You should have to feel shame."

Kebede spoke to the students in Arabic so as not to disturb others studying in the library.

"I didn't want to spread it," he said. "I didn't want the rest of students to hear it."

Another Saudi student approached from a nearby table and spoke to Kebede in English, asking if he had a problem with the other students speaking in Arabic.

A heated exchange took place.

Kebede told him there was no problem, and the man asked if Kebede was going to threaten them, to which he replied he was not and returned to his table.

After about 30 minutes, two university police officers approached Kebede and asked to speak with him. Kebede related his story of what had occurred.

The officers informed Kebede that he should have reported the incident to them rather than get involved.

"I thought to report it to the police, in order that they follow it and so on, but they would hear my words only, so it is useless," Kebede said.

"It was upsetting. Very upsetting."

University Police said both parties involved in the disturbance were cautioned and statements were taken from one of the Saudi Arabian men and Kebede.

Because the Saudi students are listed as victims in the report and the case is non-criminal, their names cannot be released.

The police report states that University Police responded to a disturbance involving Arab students, that Kebede was contacted and that he understood Arabic.

No specific mention was made in the report regarding what Kebede heard the Saudi students saying.

University Police Crime Prevention Specialist Marc Fox said that it basically boils down to "a free speech issue."

"It's horrific, yet legal," Fox said.

All agencies are operating at a "heightened state" since the Sept. 11 attacks, Fox said, and a background investigation is conducted in any instances resembling a threat to see if a statement was "more than just rhetoric."

Fox said the university routinely networks with off-campus law enforcement, and that this case was passed on to "other agencies," though he could not identify them specifically.

"This case was looked at further," Fox said. "It was not dropped. Let's put it that way."

The case is no longer active with University Police.

On Sept. 27, The Daily Aztec printed a crime brief detailing the verbal harassment of four Saudi Arabian men in the Love Library Reserve Book Room. In the brief, Kebede was described as a "foreign national" who accused the men of being connected to the Sept. 11 attacks.

Shortly before the publication of this brief, Kebede related his experience in the library to his History 514 class during a discussion about the terrorist attacks. Students from the class contacted The Daily Aztec about the inconsistency.

Kebede received a letter from the university's Center for Student Rights, dated Sept. 25, requesting that he set up a meeting to discuss his conduct in the Reserve Book Room. The letter stated that he had allegedly been "verbally abusive to other students" and that he had three days to respond or else face possible sanctions.

The letter also stated that "any student of a campus may be expelled, suspended, placed on probation or given a lesser sanction for: Abusive behavior directed toward, or hazing of, a member of the campus community."

Kebede said he met with University Judicial Officer Antionette Jones on Oct. 3.

"What she had heard previously and what I said to her when I went to give my statement according to the summons is different. She told me what the police officer reported. It was not proper or accurate what she had heard," Kebede said.

Cases handled by the Center for Student Rights are considered private and not made available to the public.

"What have I done to these Arab guys? I have done nothing," Kebede said. "How can they be happy when innocent people just perished? Vanished by the cruel actions of their own brothers.

"It's sad, that's what I told them. Of this am I going to be charged and penalized with a warning or a probation or expelling from school? No, damn. No one would do that.

"I haven't committed any wrong."

In numerous addresses, President George W. Bush has made clear that the war on terrorism is not a war on the Muslim people nor the Islamic faith, stating that Americans should be tolerant and not treat Muslims different than any other American.

Across the nation there have been episodes of hate, some deadly.

University President Stephen Weber entreated students not to give in to and propagate a backlash against international students on campus in an address at the Sept. 13 memorial for those lost in the attacks.

Muslim Student Association President Omar Behnawa has been watching for the backlash on campus, and has yet to see any episodes of hate or anti-U.S. sentiment.

"I have no reason to doubt that it happened," Behnawa said about Kebede's experience. "I'm saying that it's a very sick thing. But I could possibly see that happening."

A decision on the case has since been made, and Kebede will face no penalties at this time, though he was warned in a letter received Oct. 9 that future involvement in "confronting members of the campus community in a manner that is found to be aggressive or abusive" will result in severe disciplinary sanctions.

The letter also stated: "You are admonished to conduct yourself as a responsible member of the campus community in the future."

"I'm naturalized American. I have taken an oath to live to protect this country, so that is my part to do -- for that I am happy," Kebede said. "I am an honest citizen for this country. I showed those guys that there are people who love America, who defend America. That's what I showed.

"Is that a crime?"


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The world is turned upside down. The Saudi terrorism boosters (or worse) shamelessly use our civil rights and hate crimes reporting systems to attack someone who questioned their support for the 9-11 terrorist attacks!
1 posted on 10/17/2001 4:30:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Lent; KitJ; patent; rebdov; jimkress; MHGinTN; Common Tator; boris; AGAviator; Twodees...
The article did not state if the Saudi "students" were holding hands and giggling like girls while they laughed about the World Trade Center and Pentagon mass murder attacks.

One vote for Rule 308.

2 posted on 10/17/2001 4:34:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
The world today...what's wrong is right...what's right is wrong.
3 posted on 10/17/2001 4:35:26 PM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: Travis McGee
Anyone at San Diego State who can identify the Saudi students involved -- please get on this right away. The same with any journalists who can pursue this under Freedom of Information statutes.

There's business that needs to be taken care of.

Nothing more will be said.

4 posted on 10/17/2001 4:35:46 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Travis McGee
Time to start deporting aliens from Saudi out of this country.
5 posted on 10/17/2001 4:36:31 PM PDT by TheDon
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To: Travis McGee
"On Saturday, Sept. 22, Zewdalem Kebede, a political science senior and native Ethiopian, was studying in the Reserve Book Room in Love Library. Nearby, a group of Saudi Arabian students sat talking in Arabic -- a language Kebede speaks fluently, having learned it in his native country...

It's clear that Mr. Kebede is black - so this is clearly a HATE CRIME against HIM. He should report the disdainful nature in which the Saudi students spoke to him, or the way they implied that he should not be speaking Saudi. Obviously they were trying to intimidate him and infer that he, a black Ethiopian, should not speak "their" language. This is a hate crime against Mr. Kebede pure and simple. Let the healing begin...

6 posted on 10/17/2001 4:36:50 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: Travis McGee
This is a great post, Travis, thanks for finding it. You know it happened exactly the way it is described. The lunatics are in charge of the asylum in the land of academe. This Ethiopian student is both a hero and a victim, and we need to freep this San Diego State like we've freeped Madison, Wisconsin and other bastions of idiocy.
12 posted on 10/17/2001 4:38:54 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Travis McGee
This is where PC has led, a man defends his country against those who hate it, and the law punishes him and protects the haters.

This has to stop.

14 posted on 10/17/2001 4:39:10 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Travis McGee
Are we in Nazi Germany????
16 posted on 10/17/2001 4:39:53 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Travis McGee
The world is upside down, indeed. We should find a way to support Kebede, he is showing more love for this country than all of the hand-wringing liberal "Americans" combined.

I plan to write immediately to San Diego State University and the local papers, but I wonder if we could do more? What about San Diego Freepers organizing a visible show of support, something to get the news media down there...

20 posted on 10/17/2001 4:41:06 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: Travis McGee
Sigh... It gets curiouser and curiouser...

Wish we could show our support for the good guy somehow.

23 posted on 10/17/2001 4:42:27 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: Travis McGee
Give this kid (Kebede) a metal for standing up for the thousands of dead and injured in the attack on America.
24 posted on 10/17/2001 4:42:35 PM PDT by ChadGore
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To: mxcx60
An old link shown via Euroseek shows that his name was mentioned, for some reason, at http://www.sdwac.com/communique.html. At least the "Spring 2001" version of the posting, which is not there now. This person should be supported.
25 posted on 10/17/2001 4:44:01 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: dandelion
Great point.

Where are the lawyers and the ACLU?

27 posted on 10/17/2001 4:45:57 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Travis McGee
What is the matter with the Bush administration that it will not act to deport these enemies of America? Every non-citizen Islamic should be told to leave this country immediately. After the war is over, we can think about re-admitting a few of them.
28 posted on 10/17/2001 4:46:32 PM PDT by atafak
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To: atafak
I SUPPOSE THESE mUSLIM FREAKS WOULD HAVE CELEBRATED IF THEIR PARENTS HAD BEEN IN ONE OF THOSE TOWERS...
29 posted on 10/17/2001 4:47:35 PM PDT by Righter-than-Rush
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To: Travis McGee
University Police Crime Prevention Specialist Marc Fox said that it basically boils down to "a free speech issue."

Sorry, but if revelling in the deaths of 5,000 people and GOD knows how many more from anthrax is free speech, then we need to tighten free speech. Free speech helped these islamic mercenaries to perpetuate this atrocity.

How many bomb plans, gas, bio, other chem designs are on the Internet? In light of 911, that seems to be SERIOUSLY irresponsible.

30 posted on 10/17/2001 4:48:03 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: mxcx60
The good guy.
33 posted on 10/17/2001 4:50:11 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Travis McGee
"I have taken an oath to live to protect this country, so that is my part to do -- for that I am happy," Kebede said. "I am an honest citizen for this country. I showed those guys that there are people who love America, who defend America. That's what I showed.

"Is that a crime?"

Yes Kebede, in Californicate it is a crime. Of course they haven't really codified it into law yet, but the De Facto reality is you are just as likely to be arrested for flying an American flag as you are for selling drugs.

There is a strong anti American culture in CA, and it is promoted by corrupt politicians, low life bureaucrats, the media, and liberals in general. Ask any CA veteran.

You can sometimes find articles in the newspapers, proclaiming those who fly the flag are gang or militia members. been there.

34 posted on 10/17/2001 4:52:12 PM PDT by SSN558
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To: atafak
The looney left is swimming through jello these days. What do we have to fear from them by doing the logical, sensible thing and booting these traitorous "guests" out of the country? I don't get it.
35 posted on 10/17/2001 4:52:36 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: Travis McGee
They (saudia arabia)want our military out.we want all saudis out.go to school in your own country.
36 posted on 10/17/2001 4:52:42 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: America's Resolve
I'm not wanting to stop anyone from using their right to free speech, but I am against them trying to stop another student from exercising that same right. The need to counteract this discrimination by calling it what it is - a conspiratorial attempt by three Saudi students to punish a black Ethiopian student for using the Saudi language...
37 posted on 10/17/2001 4:52:58 PM PDT by dandelion
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To: Travis McGee
Jail them and question them 'til they sing like canaries!
38 posted on 10/17/2001 4:53:44 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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and the man asked if Kebede was going to threaten them

Meaning, of course, if you say ONE WORD to us, we will consider it a threat.

"confronting members of the campus community in a manner that is found to be aggressive or abusive"

No doubt that means questioning ANY liberal thought, saying, or belief.

I hope these incidents open up the eyes of the people in this country; we are extending the rights and freedoms of this country to people who depise us and would just as soon kill us as look at us, i.e., the Muslim middle school student who said that she would pick being a Muslim over being an American: "After all, America is just a place where you are born."

39 posted on 10/17/2001 4:53:53 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Go Dub Go
I guess you don't understand. The campus police say it's a "free speech issue" If that isn't a crock. We're at war. The little a**holes should be jailed, and then deported. Better yet, send them to kandahar, and let them suffer the fate of their fanatical taliban brothers. I want to see the muslim excremist lemmings jumping off the cliffs. The more, the merrier.
40 posted on 10/17/2001 4:54:20 PM PDT by AdvisorB
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University Police Crime Prevention Specialist Marc Fox said that it basically boils down to "a free speech issue."

PC california strikes again.

41 posted on 10/17/2001 4:54:37 PM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: DominionVI
Hey!

Second time I've seen you tonight.

Busy for a first timer.

42 posted on 10/17/2001 4:58:29 PM PDT by norton
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To: DominionVI
disrupter, liberal or terrorist? which are you?
43 posted on 10/17/2001 4:59:10 PM PDT by exnavy
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To: Travis McGee
So...is it time to Freep San Diego State University?
44 posted on 10/17/2001 4:59:43 PM PDT by twntaipan
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To: TheDon
Time to start deporting aliens from Saudi out of this country.

And from every other country, which poses a potential danger. No big discussion. No sorting, into the good ones and the bad ones. Everyone.

But we have grown to smart (stupid) for our own good. We had no qualms about interning japanese residents, in 1941. The present Arab-Muslim terrorists can be fairly certain, that our PC will handicap us, into failing to defend ourselves, at home.

Civilians may be the only ones with common sense to act. Note: a military pilot was prevented from killing a high ranking Taliban official, due to some military lawyer type.

45 posted on 10/17/2001 5:00:18 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: dandelion
I had an Ethiopian roommte. They are VERY decent people. He (Kebede) clearly loves America, and can stay. He would be welcome in my house any time.

As for the Saudis I can only say "America Love It, or Leave It."

46 posted on 10/17/2001 5:00:55 PM PDT by null and void
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To: goodnesswins
Almost.
But these ae NICE Nazis by their own definition.
47 posted on 10/17/2001 5:01:47 PM PDT by norton
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To: mxcx60
Name: Stephen Weber Ph.D.
Title: President Of San Diego State University
Department: President's Office
Phone Number: 594-5201
Office: CH-3340
E-mail: steve.weber@sdsu.edu
Mail Code: 8000
Building Name (Code): Centennial Hall (921)

University of San Diego Muslim Student Association

University of San Diego Center for Student Rights

Crime Prev. Specialist Marc Fox, University Police
(619) 594-1985
marc.fox@sdsu.edu

48 posted on 10/17/2001 5:03:14 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: Travis McGee
"They started talking about the Sept. 11 action," he said. "And with that action they were very pleased. They were happy. And they were regretting of missing the 'Big House.'

We truely have become a nation of wimps!

You mean to tell me that none of the men on that campus saw fit to kick those bastards ass? Gheeeeeezzzzzz!

49 posted on 10/17/2001 5:03:39 PM PDT by fightu4it
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To: Shermy
That link was to the San Diego World Affairs Council, the page with his name was just welcoming him to the WAC.
Here is a cached version of the page.
50 posted on 10/17/2001 5:06:36 PM PDT by van_erwin
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