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To: LarryLied
Are you saying he should get rid of Ridge and the Fatherland Security position too?

There is a resemblence to Eddie Munster. Maybe you should give the new guy on the block a few months to get the other gummint agencies in line.

3 posted on 10/22/2001 7:34:50 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
You know Fred, things have changed so much since you and I were kids. It is all appearance now. Remember when Taft was president? All 300+ single man pounds of him would be dead today...ah...for the good old days when thoughts matter.

A third rate wanna-be TV star could have done better today than Ridge.

8 posted on 10/22/2001 7:41:04 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Fred Mertz
Do NOT make fun of Reich Minister Ridge! Or ve vill haf to see your papers!
9 posted on 10/22/2001 7:41:08 PM PDT by Republic of Texas
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To: Fred Mertz; LarryLied
Excerpted from:
THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER 20, October , 2001

The Office of Homeland (Fatherland) Security will be immune from Congressional oversight or judicial review or regulatory control. If you may, above the law. Thus, it is extra-legal, judicial and legislative. Even though George Bush will chair it it will be extra-executive. The power of this agency is extraordinary. It even does away with protecting whistle blowers. This new super agency guts the whistleblower Protection act and the Freedom of Information Act. The office of Homeland (Fatherland) Security is immune from any public request for information. It submits no accounting, not even to the GAO. It can suspend habeas corpus, whenever it pleases. They can detain you for years without limitations. They have completely suspended the fourth Amendment privilege of unwarranted search and seizure. They can seize assets without judicial procedure. The assets of any person or news agency, which would attempt to disseminate the truth, can be seized. There is now no 5th Amendment protection against self-incrimination. Torture and interrogation is authorized under Section 409C of the National Security Act. They can even now label politicians seditious and stop them from disseminating ideas. They are talking about reviving the Seditious Publications Act of 1942 through which publications can be terminated if they are in disagreement with the agency. What we publish would be considered seditious and unpatriotic, because it exposes elitist and government lies and deceit...

The Federal Appeals Court in New Orleans has ruled that the constitution guarantees individuals a right to have firearms, but said the right was subject to some regulations, leaving the door open for gun control provisions. They said there is a constitutional right for individuals to bear arms, contrary to most court decisions, which have said the Second Amendment gives only a collective right, such as for state militia units. It is unlikely the Supreme Court will review the decision. The ruling sets law only for federal courts in Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas.

11 posted on 10/22/2001 7:50:05 PM PDT by Osinski
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