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What Rush Limbuagh doesn't Know.....about Hedy Lamarr. Genius Inventor
Forbes Magazine ^
| May 14, 1990
| Fleming Meeks
Posted on 10/25/2001 1:34:46 PM PDT by prometheus
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To: philman_36
It is a real shame. You can't find a damn thing wrong with the article, yet you manage to fabricate something wrong, just so you can bitch about something. Accuracy, in the midst of mis-information, hyperbole and hysteria is no vice -
- so why do you choose to persecute me for it?
Most of you would swallow minute amounts of this swill, then cite it later in arguments. I'm here to stand as a barrier to that sort of 'loose' playing with the facts.
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posted on
10/26/2001 11:53:42 AM PDT
by
_Jim
To: prometheus
It works like this: A signal is broadcast over a seemingly random series of radio frequencies, hopping from frequency to frequency at split-second intervals. ...
A receiver, hopping between frequencies in synchrony with the transmitter, picks up the message.
While this certainly describes a
frequency hopping radio system - it is only a 'nice' analogy of how a *real*, bona-fide, spread-spectrum system (such as IS-95 or Qualcomm's SS system CDMAOne works) and not quite the way an actual digital spread-spectrum 'CDMA' (code division multiple access) cell-phone transmission works ... as CDMA does not really or actually 'hop' in any way (this is a common misconception picked up by laymen as conveyed by non-technical authors). CDMA and 'frequency hopping' only share a few similar traits - one is as actually as different from the other is as FM modulation is from AM modulation ...
Rather, in CDMA two different CDMA transmissions would utilize the exact *same* continuous piece of spectrum (rather then 'hopping' around), but each differnet 'user' of that same, continuous-width spectrum using a different binary 'chipping' or spreading code.
All other users code's *except* the desired code remain un-correlated when received (all non-correlated signals remaining effectively 'noise') - with the desired code easily being correlated (and the impressed/coded digitally modulated data representing voice or data being easily recovered) in the CDMA receiver.
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posted on
10/26/2001 12:18:13 PM PDT
by
_Jim
To: _Jim
You might find this interesting.
To: _Jim
Accuracy, in the midst of mis-information, hyperbole and hysteria is no vice - - so why do you choose to persecute me for it?Exactly what
mis-information, hyperbole and hysteria is there in the article Jimbo? How exactly am I
persecuting you?
Are you implying that I'm harassing you in a manner designed to injure, grieve, or afflict? Or are you claiming I'm persistently annoying you?
I'm here to stand as a barrier to that sort of 'loose' playing with the facts.
IMO you're a barrier all right, though not a barrier to playing loose with the facts.
Which "facts" are loose? You can't even seem to recognize initials and proper punctuation, much less facts.
To: philman_36
philman_36, _Jim DID correctly point out that Citizen's Band doesn't involve spread spectrum, and that the article is in error on that point. Besides, IIRC, CB's boom years weren't in the 1990s so much as in the 1970s. (Remember the song "Convoy?")
Technogeeks tend to get a wee bit fussy about their particular area of expertise (don't get me started on TCP/IP, Microsoft IIS 4.0, and Microsoft Windows NT--I'm a genuine M$ geek, certified by Bill Gates himself).
Best to just humor them.
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posted on
10/26/2001 1:52:47 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
philman_36, _Jim DID correctly point out that Citizen's Band doesn't involve spread spectrum, and that the article is in error on that point. Besides, IIRC, CB's boom years weren't in the 1990s so much as in the 1970s. (Remember the song "Convoy?")It wasn't a reference to Citizen's Band Pooh! It is someone's initials! Someone with the initials C.B.! Read it again.
Yes, I remember "Convoy", and "Teddy Bear" and about a dozen other "trucker" songs.
To: ATOMIC_PUNK
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"Limbaugh." (Typo in the headline...D'oh!)
To: philman_36
Your appeal, involving the belief that 'C.B.' in this article represents "someone's initials", is hereby rejected.
It is found to be both without any basis in the article, rather, it appears to be a 'stretch', a grasping for a non-existant straw on your part.
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posted on
10/26/2001 3:12:40 PM PDT
by
_Jim
To: philman_36
I reread it--it doesn't look like it's referring to the author's initials, or anyone else's.
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posted on
10/26/2001 4:22:44 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: _Jim
It is found to be both without any basis in the article, rather, it appears to be a 'stretch', a grasping for a non-existant straw on your part.
Your conclusion is found to be without merit also, because your ignorance, in this matter regarding initials, is all too apparent.
Not that you would know it, you'll just have to take my word for it. However, since you'll not take my word for it either, this conversation is over. You can draw as many "conclusions" as you choose, but knowledge of events is on my side. Only your ignorance is on your side.
To: Poohbah; _Jim
Post 70 is for you too then Pooh!
You are both ignorant, not having knowledge of that on which you speak so assuredly. Fine, don't believe me, but you write your own ticket. I'm laughing so hard at you both.
I truly feel sorry for the two of you. You have been presented with truth and you don't even recognize it. So be it! You make the bed, you sleep in it!
To: philman_36
Fine. Offer us PROOF (or at least something resembling EVIDENCE) as to who this mysterious C.B. is. In the context it was used, it clearly suggests Citizen's Band radio, as it appears in a list of wireless communications technologies.
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posted on
10/26/2001 4:49:56 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
In the context it was used, it clearly suggests Citizen's Band radio, as it appears in a list of wireless communications technologies.And since you don't
know you
guess,
assuming you are right! Even your choice of words shows dithering.
(This article was published in 1991, before the current explosion of spread-spectrum use in digital communications and cell phones, C.B.)
If, as you suggest, it is refering to CB radios the sentence would have been written in the following manner...
(This article was published in 1991, before the current explosion of spread-spectrum use in digital communications, cell phones and C.B.'s)
Do you agree? If not, why not?
Prove it doesn't mean initials. I present you as difficult a challenge as you present me.
To: philman_36
Sorry, but it is logically impossible to prove a negative. That, for example, is why the Founding Fathers wrote the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" into the Constitution--because while it may not be possible (due to a lack of evidence) to prove that someone DID commit a crime, no amount of evidence could prove that someone DIDN'T commit or assist in the commission of a criminal act.
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posted on
10/26/2001 5:24:43 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
...as it appears in a list of wireless communications technologies.
No it doesn't! It appears after two wireless communications devices have been given. You really need to look at how the sentence is constructed!
To: Poohbah
Sorry, but it is logically impossible to prove a negative.
Isn't that what you are asking for?
To: philman_36
Those two devices are examples of wireless communications technologies and thus form a list of two elements. A logical conclusion is that "C.B." is a third element of the list.
What is your evidence to support the idea that this is referring to someone's initials? Who is this "C.B." person?
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posted on
10/26/2001 5:30:02 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
Offer us PROOF (or at least something resembling EVIDENCE) as to who this mysterious C.B. is.
How am I to accomplish that? You don't even accept that it stands for initials! You keep insisting that it stands for Citizen's Band. I can't even present something that you will not even entertain!
To: philman_36
No, I'm asking you to provide a POSITIVE piece of evidence to support your claim that it has to be someone's initials. I offered positive support for my claim--I pointed out that Citizen's Band radio is frequently abbreviated as C.B.
You seem to think it's the initials of a person. I can't think of who that person might be. Perhaps you have a bit more knowledge and can give folks like me an idea who you think this person would be.
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posted on
10/26/2001 5:33:16 PM PDT
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
Who is this "C.B." person?
I don't know who this "C.B." person is! You are asking something that I cannot provide. If you don't believe it is a person how can I prove to you that it is someone. You refute even the possibility that it is someone! You keep insisting that it means Citizen's Band. And besides, if I knew who C.B. was I sure as hell wouldn't tell you.
Talk about talking in a circle! You are an ass as usual!
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