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Is it just a matter of when and where?
1 posted on 10/25/2001 4:06:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
It will happen. I just hope there first attempt goes wrong and kills them instead of us.
2 posted on 10/25/2001 4:10:16 PM PDT by ar10
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To: blam
It's only a matter of time before Islamic fundamentalists get their hands on a nuclear weapon and detonate it in the U.S. or in Israel. Could be one year, five years, ten years or tomorrow. But it is going to happen sooner or later if we allow them to survive and thrive. The destruction of the western world is all these people are living for. If we don't have the fortitude to wage our own jihad on these people, then we should at least take over the Middle East oil wells and deny them the financial means to obtain and/or develop nuclear weapons that they can use against us.
3 posted on 10/25/2001 4:20:36 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: blam
FRIDAY OCTOBER 26 2001

Bin Laden's nuclear threat

BY PHILIP WEBSTER AND ROLAND WATSON

OSAMA BIN LADEN and his al-Qaeda network have acquired nuclear materials for possible use in their terrorism war against the West, intelligence sources have disclosed.
The Western sources say that the suspected mastermind of the September 11 attacks on America does not have the capability to mount a nuclear attack but fear he would do so if he could.

They believe that he obtained the materials illegally from Pakistan, which has a nuclear capability.

The knowledge that bin Laden has components for a nuclear weapons device in his arsenal is believed to lie behind the regular warnings from President Bush and Tony Blair that he would commit worse atrocities than the suicide assaults on New York and Washington if he were able to.

They may also explain the speed with which the decision was taken to go after bin Laden and his terrorist network, even if that meant toppling the Taleban regime in Afghanistan first.

The disclosure comes as MPs prepare to learn today the details of British troops earmarked for deployment to Afghanistan. They will include a commando group of about 1,000 Royal Marines, currently on exercise in Oman, as well as a large contingent of special forces and specialist support units. The force will be based on ships that have also been participating in the huge tri-Service exercise. They are expected to include the aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious, stripped of her Harrier jets so she can be used as a platform for helicopters, or HMS Ocean, a dedicated helicopter carrier, two anti-aircraft destroyers to protect the carrier, the assault ship HMS Fearless, and two Royal Fleet Auxiliary support vessels.

Yesterday Mr Blair sought to reassure Muslim leaders that the military action in Afghanistan should be over as quickly as possible. He told the Islamic Response to Terrorism Conference in North London: “I hope you understand that what is important is that we make sure at the same time we take the action necessary now in order to hold to account those who commited the actions of September 11.”

There has been clear evidence for several years that bin Laden’s agents have been trying to buy, steal or smuggle nuclear systems in order to attack the West. He has said that it was his “religious duty” to seek to acquire chemical, biological and nuclear weapons of mass destruction.(Repeat after me, It's not about religion and we love Muslims)

An informed source has told The Times that bin Laden appeared to have amassed a “terrifying” range of weapons although he was insistent that he did not have the capacity to launch a nuclear attack.

Intelligence sources, however, have voiced concerns about bin Laden obtaining radioactive material for a “dirty bomb”. Rather than being used in an atomic weapon, the material would be dispersed in a way that would seriously contaminate a small area. In an urban environment hundreds of people could die and thousands more be exposed to radiation poisoning.

In 1993 a senior bin Laden operative, Jamal al-Fadi, met a Sudanese military commander in Khartoum to try to negotiate the sale of a cylinder of enriched South African uranium for a black market price of $1.5 million (£1.2 million). A separate al-Qaeda attempt to buy weapons-grade nuclear material through the Russian mafia was foiled in Prague when several kilograms of highly enriched uranium were seized, according to a German TV report last week.

Earlier this week two former government nuclear scientists in Pakistan were detained amid fears about their links with the Taleban. Bashir uddin Mahmood was project director in Pakistan’s nuclear programme before its 1998 tests. Since retiring from the Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission three years ago, he ran a group which carried out relief work in Afghanistan, and was known to be supportive of the Taleban. Chaudry Abdul Majid was a director of the commission in 1999.

Intelligence officials have long been aware of the potential for contraband uranium to be turned into an atomic “suitcase bomb”. An easier outcome is a radiological weapon — a conventional weapon with a radioactive core — which had the potential to contaminate large areas.

George Tenet, Director of the CIA, told the Senate Intelligence Committee last year that bin Laden was trying to obtain nuclear materials.

However, some are convinced bin Laden already has a nuclear capability. According to a book about the terrorist leader, The Man Who Declared War on America, Chechen rebels facilitated the sale of nuclear suitcase bombs in the late 1990s from a range of former Soviet republics.

Quoting Russian and Arab intelligence sources, the author, Yossef Bodansky, says that bin Laden’s go-betweens paid the Chechens $30 million in cash and gave them two tonnes of heroin with a Western street value of up to $700 million for a number of bombs.

In 1998 bin Laden issued a statement entitled “The Nuclear Bomb of Islam”, which said: “It is the duty of Muslims to prepare as much force as possible to terrorise the enemies of God.”

4 posted on 10/25/2001 4:22:25 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
... maybe here: Phoenix, AZ (World Series)
6 posted on 10/25/2001 4:29:44 PM PDT by RKBA_Champ
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To: blam
They have to be put out of business, and soon.
7 posted on 10/25/2001 4:33:56 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: blam
Musharif is a puppet. It's the ISI (PLA backed) who truly run Pakistan. That's why Musharif has been so nice to the US. His "agreements" are like pie crusts. They are made to be broken. We should be including Pakistan in our attacks, not using them as a base. Use them as a base only after cleaning house. We've got our sequence of events all gummed up. But what do I know....
17 posted on 10/25/2001 5:33:08 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD
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To: blam
It's time to explain to bin Laden and other Muslims that a Muslim Holy War does have an address. The address is:

The Kaaba and Great Mosque
Mecca, SAUDI ARABIA

All Muslims should be warned that, given a sufficiently destructive attack on the West, the West will destroy the Great Mosque, carry off the Kaaba, and drop it in the Mariannas Trench.

Let the Muslims themselves, moderate and otherwise, bear the burden of preventing Osama bin Laden and his people from attacking the West, as a result bringing a disaster upon the Muslim faith equivalent to the Roman conquest of Jerusalem and the destruction of the Second Temple.

22 posted on 10/25/2001 6:16:11 PM PDT by Magician
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BTTT
23 posted on 10/25/2001 7:04:34 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
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