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To: WomanofStandard
T D Jakes and Billy Graham, both at the top of my list. Just discovered Jakes. I was with the author but the former drunk reference at the end was a little unkind but I guess he was trying to make a point.
17 posted on 10/27/2001 4:39:50 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: floriduh voter
TD Jakes is a modalist, not a Christian. The traditional word to describe him is heretic.
33 posted on 10/27/2001 5:14:30 PM PDT by mdwakeup
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To: floriduh voter
former drunk reference at the end was a little unkind but I guess he was trying to make a point

There is only one way to "stop" drinking on [your] 40th birtday +1 - to turn your life and your will over to the care of God . . .

38 posted on 10/27/2001 6:21:47 PM PDT by 1stMarylandRegiment
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To: floriduh voter
"I was with the author but the former drunk reference at the end was a little unkind but I guess he was trying to make a point"

But the author knows that this is not an unkind comment to a Christian who knows he has been saved by God's grace. Regardless of the author's personal beliefs, he understands that Christians believe that God sometimes calls the most unlikeliest of people--Paul, of course, being the prime example.

Who would have thought, when Dubya was drinking heavily, that he would go on to become president of the United States?

70 posted on 10/27/2001 10:51:24 PM PDT by joathome
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To: floriduh voter
T D Jakes and Billy Graham, both at the top of my list. Just discovered Jakes. I was with the author but the former drunk reference at the end was a little unkind but I guess he was trying to make a point.

To be honest I know nothing of this author and therefore cannot comment on him, though I see some here say he is usually questionable at best. But, for most of what he is reporting on GWB and his faith he is on target because I am up to speed on that. I also am familiar with the ministrial reputations of TD Jakes and James Robinson, which are both very good. So, basically I am speaking of the content of the article, and was responding to the previous post, not commenting on Andrew Sullivan.

100 posted on 10/28/2001 3:05:00 PM PST by WomanofStandard
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