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Hijackers were from wealthy Saudi families ("The Sunday Times" full version)
The Sunday Times ^ | October 28 2001 | The Sunday Times

Posted on 10/29/2001 12:16:01 AM PST by CommiesOut

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1 posted on 10/29/2001 12:16:01 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: madrussian; malarski; Askel5; GROUCHOTWO; Zviadist; kristinn; Free the USA; Black Jade...

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2 posted on 10/29/2001 12:20:22 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
Great post. Time to change the profile and look under the bed.
3 posted on 10/29/2001 12:27:39 AM PST by Fulbright
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To: CommiesOut
So tell me again why we are bombing Afghani civilians.
4 posted on 10/29/2001 12:30:44 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: Ada Coddington
Maybe because those poor bastards ain't CIA friends and have no Stingers?
5 posted on 10/29/2001 12:32:16 AM PST by CommiesOut
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To: CommiesOut
Hijackers were from wealthy Saudi families . . . Many of them had a history of making trips both to America and Afghanistan.

Just a couple of observation:

  1. Islamic society in general and Arabic society in particular is very big on family honor and responsibility. What are the chances that our "Saudi Allies" will assist in allowing and enforcing lawsuits by 9-11 victim's families against the wealthy families of the perps. Those who knew they were involved in "jihad" activities should be forced to sell their homes, camels and move into a tent.

  2. An Israeli visa on your passport, no matter how old, will get you barred from entering Saudi Arabia. Why can't our marvelous INS inspectors page through passports to find visas for Afghanistan and other terrorist sponsoring countries? Why can't our marvelous state department who passes out visas like candy do the same? An American doesn't get into Saudi Arabia without a damn good reason, a sponsor and a 50 riyal revenue stamp to pay for the cost of processing the visa. Is it so much to ask that our people follow the same due diligence in reviewing visa applications from Saudi Arabia?

6 posted on 10/29/2001 12:40:56 AM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: CommiesOut
Predominantly from the western provinces of the kingdom, they were also all adherents to the Salafist school of Islam...

Also known by its more familiar name: Wahhabism.  Most of the mosques in America are Wahhabi/Salafi controlled.

 America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America -- here

7 posted on 10/29/2001 1:16:22 AM PST by JCG
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To: CommiesOut; Fulbright; Ada Coddington; Rubber Duckie
Well, we now know the names of the families, and many of the names of the members of these families.

When these families are snuffed, a major supplier of money and kamikazies will be eliminated, and our Government Agencies are cleared to proceed.

It's harsh to say it, but it must be followed-through. THESE are the people that helped kill over 6000 Americans, and even though we SAY that we're not in the revenge business, we all know that reality is different!

There's a huge fifth-column of Islamic-Terrorist-Sympathizers in America, and they MUST be neutralized quickly. When their relatives at 'home' start taking dirt-naps, perhaps they'll wake-up and leave. Maybe it'll smoke 'em out - either way, they're gone.

Ada, to answer your question, we need a secured Forward-Land-Base in the Region, to operate from. USAF Base-Kandahar, Afghanistan fits the bill. We'll be going Westward from there through Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and every other terrorist-supporting Country.

Ada, you have to print-out maps of each country in the Region, and tape them together. Then color them as 'friendly', and 'un-friendly'. Colour Turkey as a 'friendly'. Colour a chunk of Southwest-Pakistan, from the Indian Ocean to Afghanistan as Texico!

Bet on Kandahar, Ada. Stay well and vigilant...FRegards

8 posted on 10/29/2001 1:43:25 AM PST by gonzo
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To: Ada Coddington
In view of your perspective, I have already explained the situation to you. Let me explain again.

1) the US military is targeting civilians, aiming with deadly accuracy to kill women, children and the elderly.

2) When not killing innocent civilians, the US kills UN and Red Cross workers.

3) When not bombing women, children, the elderly and UN workers, the US bombs mosques and schools.

4) Despite killing “thousands” of men, women, children, clerics, UN workers and students, the US has not managed to kill any Taliban fighters.

Perhaps, Ada Dear, you would like to explain this method of war fighting for us? By the way are there any non-civilians in Afghanistan that we may have hit, just as collateral damage in our attack on the civilian population[sarcasm off]

I believe I saw you at the entrance to the downtown tunnel with the other church ladies holding up a "Peace Now" sign.

9 posted on 10/29/2001 3:15:30 AM PST by moneyrunner
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To: JCG
For further details on Saudi Arabia as a hot bed of anti-US support and funding, see Seymour Hersh's essay:

KING'S RANSOM:How vulnerable are the Saudi royals?
10 posted on 10/29/2001 3:19:42 AM PST by Blue_Ridge_Mtn_Geek
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We are not killing Afghan civilians, except when they get in the way...
11 posted on 10/29/2001 4:17:31 AM PST by LouD
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To: LouD
We are not killing Afghan civilians, except when they get in the way...

And, as Muslim terrorists could tell you, no civilians would die unless Allah willed it.

12 posted on 10/29/2001 5:00:06 AM PST by syriacus
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To: LouD
Please note the [sarcasm] tags in my post. Ada appears to be a peace at any price poster. She reminds me of the dumpy church ladies who carry placards at a major intersection in Norfolk. They formerly protested capital punishment for murderers. Now they protest American self-defense.

It elevates their sense of self importance and allows them to parade their moral superiority. It has the same effect as the Aids Awareness ribbon (remember those?) as a self identifyer of superior sensibilities.

13 posted on 10/29/2001 5:46:12 AM PST by moneyrunner
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To: CommiesOut
So poor muslims hate us and rich must muslims hate us. I guess it's the middle-class muslims that are really peaceful and don't mean us harm.....right?
14 posted on 10/29/2001 5:54:46 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: moneyrunner
In view of your perspective, I have already explained the situation to you. Let me explain again.

under a different name, perhaps. I don't think we've met under your current moniker.

1) the US military is targeting civilians, aiming with deadly accuracy to kill women, children and the elderly.

If so, they are playing a dangerous game. We are currently depending on other Muslim nations like Pakistan who will withdraw support if you are correct.

2) When not killing innocent civilians, the US kills UN and Red Cross workers.

And 10 soldiers from our ally, the Northern Alliance.

3) When not bombing women, children, the elderly and UN workers, the US bombs mosques and schools.

While Rumsfeld admits that the alleged target of this whole operation probably will not be caught.

4) Despite killing “thousands” of men, women, children, clerics, UN workers and students, the US has not managed to kill any Taliban fighters.

Now that you bring it up, the operation so far has been less than successful.

Perhaps, Ada Dear, you would like to explain this method of war fighting for us? By the way are there any non-civilians in Afghanistan that we may have hit, just as collateral damage in our attack on the civilian population[sarcasm off]

If we are targetting civilians like we did in Kossovo, the object the same as it was there.

I believe I saw you at the entrance to the downtown tunnel with the other church ladies holding up a "Peace Now" sign.

That's me. I'll continue to hold it until the U.S. government targets those responsible for the 911 attack. Let me know if we ever get serious about holding the proper parties responsible.

15 posted on 10/29/2001 8:20:08 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: LouD
We are not killing Afghan civilians, except when they get in the way...

What's the point? Do you think that killing Afghanis will deter Saudi terrorists?

16 posted on 10/29/2001 9:20:36 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: moneyrunner
Please note the [sarcasm] tags in my post. Ada appears to be a peace at any price poster. She reminds me of the dumpy church ladies who carry placards at a major intersection in Norfolk. They formerly protested capital punishment for murderers. Now they protest American self-defense.

Damn straight. Enjoy your war!

17 posted on 10/29/2001 9:35:29 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: Ada Coddington
"1) the US military is targeting civilians, aiming with deadly accuracy to kill women, children and the elderly.

[you replied]If so, they are playing a dangerous game. We are currently depending on other Muslim nations like Pakistan who will withdraw support if you are correct."

I feel like Johnathan Swift who, when he satirically recommended eating Irish children, was sent a recipe for stewing them.

You have a seriously disturbed mind.

18 posted on 10/29/2001 9:37:28 AM PST by moneyrunner
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To: Ada Coddington
We are killing Saudi (and other) terrorists who live and train in Afghanistan. That's the point. First things first...
19 posted on 10/29/2001 11:34:40 AM PST by LouD
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To: LouD
We are killing Saudi (and other) terrorists who live and train in Afghanistan. That's the point. First things firs

Sure we are. I mean drop enough of those million dollar smart bombs and you're due to hit a target once in a while. Of course, there is no proof that we got even one terrorist by accident.

What about those who were involved in 911. Have we made the slightest effort to catch those who remain at large and/or supported them? If not, why not?

20 posted on 10/29/2001 1:12:58 PM PST by Ada Coddington
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