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All you need to know about oil, Central Asia and the rest - vanity ?
div. ^ | May 1999 - Aug. 27, 2000 - March 2001 | self

Posted on 10/30/2001 3:44:44 AM PST by Milosevic2

Why did the conspirators had to act now ?

Message #113973 from May 23, 1999, exposes why is NATO sending more ground troops to the Balkans - only a coverup for a full scale nuclear strike, since the NATO mercenaries aren't willing to die for the KLA and not even the sheeple are ready to accept their sons to die for the staged "humanitarian" cause.
But one question remains : why is the strategy of NATO what's stated in conclusion 2 of the referred message (Kosovo is the end game) ?
NATO uses now daily, against Yugoslavia, 11 million gallons (40 million liters) fuel a day. If you believe the big lie that "oil reserves still last for at least another 100 years" then this is irrelevant.
But the two facts below explain the two major political questions today : Both facts help you also understand that NATO wouldn't be using those 11 million gallons a day bombing if Kosovo wasn't part of the end game.

#1: G-7 and NATO - oil reserves are almost gone

Oil reserves still left in the G-7 countries today : 29.0 billion barrels, i.e. finished until 2004.
Source : Report of the Congressional Research Service from 1995

#2: Caspian Sea oil - the dream is gone

A major factor to explain the dramatical acceleration in the course of events in Kosovo are the latest results of prospection in the Caspian Sea : the expectations it would be a (reborn) Eldorado proved to be wrong. Western Oil consortiums are leaving the area after gigantic investments with no return.

After 1994, as the first consortium, AIOC, was created, fifteen more followed afterwards. Some facts about the current situation :

"Why did the conspirators need to act now ?", was posted the first time to the CNN board, May 23, 1999 - start at http://cnnplus.cnn.com/WebX?13@@.ee6b2b1/113990.

Incredible facts about a page with incredible facts

The two key political questions of this end of the millennium, which is also the end of the second (hopefully not the last) stage in the History of Mankind are :
Can you imagine that
This is yet another example of a key feature of our times : to what extent people gave up the capacity to use their basic asset, thinking.
December 1, 1999

Central Asia - Oil Reserves, Geostrategy - updates

The recent developments didn't change anything in the fundamentals. No miracle for the conspirators. Anyway these are just details. because it really is too late for miracles. August 2000 - Remark that Uzbekistan has also just clearly aligned with Russia, in a surprise shift, joining Tajikistan.  Uzbekistan's president Karimov cancelead a meeting with NATO's George Robertson and met several times with Putin. The main reason : the CIA & Pakistan financed Afghanistan's Taliban is intensifying the support for the moslem terrorists in Uzbekistan, after they did it massively  in the Fergana Valley in Tajikistan.
August 27, 2000 - a few days after these developments the "Kursk" was destroyed in the Sea of Barents.


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1 posted on 10/30/2001 3:44:44 AM PST by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2; Black Jade; dirtboy
FYI
2 posted on 10/30/2001 3:48:38 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Milosevic2
Oh, it's you again....
3 posted on 10/30/2001 3:49:17 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Patria One
Thanks for the ping. Quite an incoherent dump of data here.
4 posted on 10/30/2001 7:16:00 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Can you just point out one example for that "incoherent data" ?
5 posted on 10/30/2001 7:31:05 AM PST by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
Can you just point out one example for that "incoherent data" ?

The fact that you ask for one example is telling. First of all, it's been common knowledge that the United States and the G-7 do not have much of their own oil left - however, that is not a significant problem as long as they have access to oil from other markets. Kosovo was a bogus intervention - but not for the reasons specified here (Nato running out of oil), but instead Nato wanted to build a pipeline to try and deny Russia control of Caspian oil. And the presentation is completely incoherent, with a lot of bogus data and speculation about unrelated topics thrown together like a dog's lunch.

6 posted on 10/30/2001 7:34:41 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
You mention several points : #1 - it's been common knowledge that the United States and the G-7 do not have much of their own oil left
#2 - that is not a significant problem as long as they have access to oil from other markets
#3- Kosovo intervention was because Nato wanted to build a pipeline to try and deny Russia control of Caspian oil.
#1 - I estimate that VERY FEW people are aware that the whole G-7 would be TOTALLY depending on imports by 2004.
7 posted on 10/30/2001 7:51:29 AM PST by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
#1 - I estimate that VERY FEW people are aware that the whole G-7 would be TOTALLY depending on imports by 2004.

Wrong. Britain is still a net exporter of oil. The North Sea is not gonna run out of oil anytime soon. The United States still produces a fair amount of oil.

I agree we are becoming more dependent upon imports. But when you make bogus statements, you undercut your arguments.

8 posted on 10/30/2001 8:17:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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#2 - oil fields are producing now at maximum capacity. A serious disruption (say at least 10%) couldn't be compensated. So the prices would immediately rise above $35. And we know, since Clinton resorted to use the strategic reserves, in August 2000, that $35 a barrel is the limit. Otherwise the castle of cards fall.
BTW, to understand the effects of a disruption now, keep in mind that Russia, Venzuela and Iran are not US allies like the criminal governements in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Nigeria and Angola.
9 posted on 10/30/2001 8:18:20 AM PST by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
BTW, to understand the effects of a disruption now, keep in mind that Russia,

Russia has already committed to the EU that it will make good any shortfalls if there is a disruption to Gulf exports. Try again.

10 posted on 10/30/2001 8:19:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
You can believe what you want to. The facts speak a different language.
11 posted on 10/30/2001 8:28:14 AM PST by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
Puh-leeze. You can dredge up all kinds of facts. The point is, are they relevant to the debate at hand?
12 posted on 10/30/2001 8:36:33 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
They are, since they contradict your statement that Russia is a NATO ally.
13 posted on 10/30/2001 9:11:22 AM PST by Milosevic2
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To: Milosevic2
They are, since they contradict your statement that Russia is a NATO ally

Hardly. Putin was right to be concerned about Clinton. But he and Bush seem to understand each other, and 9/11 changed the relationship between Russia and the United States. You are dealing with stale facts. Get some fresh ones and get back to me. Ta-ta.

14 posted on 10/30/2001 9:19:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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Putin was right to be concerned about Clinton. But he and Bush seem to understand each other,
You're dealing with diplomatic statements. If Bush's policy was different than Clinton then he would not continue NATO expansion to the East. Kvashnin and Sergeyev have stated repeatedly that this undermines the strategic alarm period of Russia. This is not about diplomacy. This is about survival.
15 posted on 10/31/2001 12:29:20 AM PST by Milosevic2
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