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We have not seen such a serious threat since the Cuban missile crisis (quoted)
Fox News | 10/31/2001 | Fox News

Posted on 10/30/2001 10:59:14 PM PST by Don Joe

Fox News broke for a bulletin a few minutes ago. The announcer said that new information had just been received from the government, saying that the current emergency is very serious. They (the gov't) said that we have not seen such a serious threat since the Cuban missile crisis. They said that the most critical period would be within the next 72 hours.


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I'm trying to take this all in stride, but frankly, I can't think of too many ways to parse that phrase. The Cuban missile crisis was not about "dirty" (radiological) bombs. It was not about "tactical" bombs, and it was not about "suitcase" bombs.

Maybe I'd be more lackadaisical if I hadn't read the following a few hours earlier:

by Florida native   10/30/01 11:33 PM Eastern   #137
to budwiesest in reply to #25

From a very reliable source, which I will not divulge, I was told this two days ago; the Russians claim they "misplaced" 5 nuclear warheads that were being transferred to subs, and as such they are now unaccounted for.

There is no way these could fit into suitcases, so that part is urban legend.

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1 posted on 10/30/2001 10:59:14 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
I was going to sleep. Thanks for the thread.
2 posted on 10/30/2001 11:01:19 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Don Joe
They're on now with another bulletin on this.

"May be more serious than originally thought."

3 posted on 10/30/2001 11:01:50 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: TLBSHOW
Sorry 'bout that. They report, you decide. :(
4 posted on 10/30/2001 11:02:30 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
better order your potassium iodide pills.
5 posted on 10/30/2001 11:02:48 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Don Joe
More Info?
6 posted on 10/30/2001 11:05:09 PM PST by ThirdMate
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To: vbmoneyspender
We've had our KI since '99.
7 posted on 10/30/2001 11:05:46 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
No TV keep reporting.
8 posted on 10/30/2001 11:05:52 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Don Joe
Keep us posted please. I don't have cable.
9 posted on 10/30/2001 11:06:48 PM PST by Sunshine55
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To: ThirdMate
Don't know of anything other than those two bulletins. If you can get Fox News, tune in, I'm sure they'll say something more soon. Might be on their website, I haven't checked. I don't know how often they update it during the dead of night (if at all).
10 posted on 10/30/2001 11:07:08 PM PST by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
From a very reliable source, which I will not divulge, I was told this two days ago; the Russians claim they "misplaced" 5 nuclear warheads that were being transferred to subs, and as such they are now unaccounted for.

Russian nuclear weapons, like American ones, have coded interlocks that prevent their detonation by a crazed individual within the Russian military itself, much less anyone who might steal one.

11 posted on 10/30/2001 11:08:08 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Sunshine55
I will post anything I hear. Right now they're replaying an interview from earlier this evening. I will go check their website now and CNN too. If I find anything there I'll post it here.
12 posted on 10/30/2001 11:08:12 PM PST by Don Joe
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I just heard them say that the terrorists keep using a code word in their phone conversations.
The code word the means "BIG EVENT" the USA believes.
13 posted on 10/30/2001 11:08:16 PM PST by stlnative
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To: Don Joe
fox updates at the top and the bottom of the hour all night long
14 posted on 10/30/2001 11:08:36 PM PST by momofsixgirls
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I don't mean to be picky, but not being in front of a TV right now I gotta know: Are you certain this was an unscheduled breakin to normal FNC programming, or was it just one of the top- and bottom-of-the-hour news updates?
15 posted on 10/30/2001 11:10:36 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
it was at one of the top and bottom new peices
16 posted on 10/30/2001 11:11:58 PM PST by momofsixgirls
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To: Don Joe
The government said we have not seen such a serious crisis since... Did they say WHO in the government said?
17 posted on 10/30/2001 11:13:57 PM PST by George 666
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U.S. Suspects New Terror Orders

By JOHN LUMPKIN and JOHN SOLOMON, Associated Press Writers - Updated: Wed, Oct 31 12:15 AM EST

WASHINGTON (AP) - U.S. authorities suspect Osama bin Laden's inner circle may have issued new orders for attacks against Americans and are concerned the terrorists might strike even if they get cut off from their central command in Afghanistan, officials said Tuesday.

The terrorist alert issued Monday was based on intelligence involving Afghanistan and known al-Qaida supporters elsewhere in the world, including Canada, the officials told The Associated Press.

The officials, who described the information solely on condition of anonymity, said some of the intelligence suggested one of bin Laden's lieutenants in Afghanistan recently urged new attacks on Americans. They declined to be more specific.

U.S. officials have long suspected that bin Laden's top deputies, Ayman al-Zawahri and Mohammed Atef, were involved in the planning or support of the Sept. 11 hijackings.

They cautioned, however, that U.S. intelligence also is open to the possibility that the terrorists are aware their communications are being monitored and may be planting false information.

The officials said other information that led to the warning from Attorney General John Ashcroft on Monday suggested known al-Qaida operatives in Canada, Asia and elsewhere were discussing new attacks.

Canada's Solicitor General Lawrence MacAuley, who oversees the nation's law enforcement and intelligence, confirmed Tuesday that information his country provided to the United States was behind the warning.

Information provided to the FBI from the Canadian Intelligence Security Service "led Mr. Ashcroft to make the statement that he made yesterday," MacAuley said.

U.S. officials said they are concerned the al-Qaida network may become more decentralized in the midst of the U.S.-led bombing in Afghanistan. They said there are some suspicions terrorist cells already trained or financed by bin Laden's network might be willing to act without a central order from Afghanistan.

Key members of Congress said such a decentralization was feared because it would make it more difficult to detect where the next attacks were coming from.

"If there are people who would do us harm, we have to assume those people are probably trained to do things without a specific order," said Sen. Richard Shelby, the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee.

A senior U.S. official said American intelligence doesn't have sufficient evidence to determine whether this decentralization is already taking place but it is of concern.

U.S. intelligence also is considering the possibility that the terrorists, aware of the extensive effort to intercept their communications, may be planting false communications to disguise their real plans, officials said.

"My guess is the terrorist network is not going to avoid using the tool of disinformation," said Rep. Porter Goss, R-Fla., chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

Added Shelby: "You have to believe that any messages could be disinformation."

Government officials said they are open to the possibility that even the intelligence received in the last week may be designed to deceive the United States and its allies.

In addition, the officials said, U.S. intelligence is reassessing information received this spring and summer that led to a CIA warning in June that bin Laden might strike overseas.

No attacks occurred and the information from that period is being re-evaluated to determine if some of it was designed to disguise the plans to strike on U.S. soil on Sept. 11, officials said.

18 posted on 10/30/2001 11:14:26 PM PST by stlnative
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To: momofsixgirls
Thank you! And thank God. I've been in the news biz, and know that a breakin with such news would be far more serious than just repeating a background quote during a regular update.
19 posted on 10/30/2001 11:15:38 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
I wasn't paying attention when the first mention came out, but she said something like "this just in", so it may have been a cross between the two types of live news.

Still looking for something in "print", no luck yet. Fox's site hasn't been updated in a few hours, same thing with CNN. Nosing through wire services from Drudge's links to their breaking news URLs, so far they're still lagging by an hour or more.

20 posted on 10/30/2001 11:19:15 PM PST by Don Joe
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