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Gun control groups criticize handgun ads in newspapers (BARF ALERT!)
Chicago Tribune (Internet Edition) ^ | November 1, 2001 | Ed Fanselow

Posted on 11/01/2001 6:03:26 PM PST by Fixit


Leaders of gun control groups from Illinois and 15 other states today called on the nation's newspapers to stop carrying classified advertisements for guns, saying such ads let criminals obtain firearms without undergoing federally mandated background checks.

"Criminals will always be able to obtain handguns, but newspapers shouldn't be making it easy for them," said Thom Mannard, executive director of the Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence.

Under 1993 federal legislation, federally licensed gun dealers are required to conduct criminal background checks on all people who buy firearms from them. But the law doesn't apply to people who sell guns from private collections at gun shows, estate sales and flea markets and in newspaper classified sections.

"Classified ads for guns are perfectly legal, but just because something is legal doesn't mean it's good policy," Mannard said at a news conference today in downtown Chicago that included handgun opponents from Illinois, Indiana, Iowa and Michigan. "We are asking the newspapers that serve the public to make a careful decision to ban these ads on their own."

A number of major metropolitan newspapers {ndash} but not the Chicago Tribune or Sun-Times {ndash} carry gun ads, Mannard said. Some do not accept handgun ads while allowing rifles and shotguns to be advertised.

Todd Vandermyde, second vice president of the Illinois State Rifle Association, said that to buy a gun in Illinois from an individual, the law already requires the seller to ask a purchaser to show a valid firearm owner's identification card.

"If (sellers) don't ask for a card, they're committing a felony," Vandermyde said. "We already have a law for this. There's no need to stop people who want to sell their guns from advertising in the newspaper."

But Mannard and other gun control advocates say the FOID law is far from foolproof. They cited Benjamin Smith, an avowed white supremacist who shot and killed two men, including former Northwestern University basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong, during a 1999 shooting spree. Smith allegedly obtained the guns he used in the shootings from a man who advertised them in a Downstate newspaper.

"Smith had his FOID card revoked, but not confiscated," Mannard said. "Law enforcement simply does not have the resources to make sure that every felon has his FOID card taken away. Banning these ads in newspapers would be one step in the right direction to keeping guns out of the hands of people like Benjamin Smith."

Many newspapers, including the Tribune and Sun-Times, have long had policies against classified ads for guns. Tribune spokesman Jeff Bierig said the paper's policy dates to 1982.




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So I guess they want the First Amendment thrown out too...

The article also lies in its suggestion that flea market dealers don't need licenses. Anyone engaged in the regular business of dealing firearms needs an FFL, and likely also a local license.

1 posted on 11/01/2001 6:03:26 PM PST by Fixit
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To: *bang_list
bump for list
2 posted on 11/01/2001 6:03:49 PM PST by Fixit
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To: Fixit
Those morons should go to Afghanistan. The first thing the Taliban did was to disarm the people, and look how they ended up.
3 posted on 11/01/2001 6:08:42 PM PST by MadEagle
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To: Fixit
Criminals will always be able to obtain handguns

No, this couldn't possibly be true (/sarcasm off)

4 posted on 11/01/2001 6:20:52 PM PST by spartan68
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To: MadEagle
"disarm the people"

I hate to admit how damned old I am, but I remember watching TV and seeing the Czechs in Prague, beating on Russian tanks with rakes and shovels because THEY were disarmed.

5 posted on 11/01/2001 6:30:25 PM PST by GVNR
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To: MadEagle
The Taliban and every other dictatorship in the world. As a woman, I am particularly offended by pacifists who want to deny me the right to protect my family and myself if necessary. Unarmed women are generally not as strong as men, but a well-trained woman with a gun is.
6 posted on 11/01/2001 6:37:16 PM PST by Gophack
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To: Fixit
9-11-2001

R.I.P. Gun control.

8 posted on 11/01/2001 7:01:16 PM PST by garyhope
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To: GVNR
Speaking of tanks and unarmed people... who could ever forget this?


9 posted on 11/01/2001 7:13:51 PM PST by MadEagle
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To: Fixit
Leaders of gun control groups from Illinois and 15 other states today called on the nation's newspapers to stop carrying classified advertisements for guns, saying such ads let criminals obtain firearms without undergoing federally mandated background checks

It stands to reason that they should always ban automobile ads since criminals can buy get-a-way cars to commit a crime. It makes EVERY BIT AS MUCH SENSE as the asinine anti-gun stance.

10 posted on 11/01/2001 7:23:18 PM PST by zip
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To: Fixit
Speaking of which, I have a bunch of box cutters I need to unload fast. You think the gun control people would mind if I place a classified ad in the newspaper...?
11 posted on 11/01/2001 7:49:21 PM PST by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: Fixit
In Illinois anyone causing the transfer of a firearm within the state must keep a record of the transfer for 10 years. Anyone causing the transfer of a firearm within the state must do so only with persons with a valid FOID card.

Even in private transfers you have to present a valid FOID. The laws are there, they just need to be enforced.

12 posted on 11/01/2001 8:02:38 PM PST by virgil
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Even in private transfers you have to present a valid FOID. The laws are there, they just need to be enforced.

e-n-f-o-r-c-e-d is a funny way to spell repealed.

13 posted on 11/02/2001 4:12:35 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: MadEagle
Unforgettable image, worth repeating.

...and one should remember that the only reason that guy was effective at all was that the driver had enough of a conscience to not just step on the gas. Many oppressors' minions do not share that sentiment.

14 posted on 11/02/2001 5:57:07 AM PST by ctdonath2
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To: Fixit
Thom Mannard needs to be added to the "bang" list :-)
15 posted on 11/02/2001 6:00:58 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: garyhope

i believe in gun control.....if you don't have good control;
you sure can waste a lot of ammo...

16 posted on 11/02/2001 6:07:17 AM PST by hoot2
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To: GVNR
"Czechs in Prague, beating on Russian tanks "

they only had one partially "effective weapon"

molatov cocktail

17 posted on 11/02/2001 6:13:18 AM PST by hoot2
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