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U.S. adds Hamas and Hezbollah to list of terrorist groups
Reuters/Ha'aretz ^ | 11/02/01 | Staff Writer

Posted on 11/02/2001 1:05:16 PM PST by veronica

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To: IceCreamSocialist
Can we put they Berkley city counsel on it too????
41 posted on 11/02/2001 2:44:33 PM PST by Malcolm
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To: SJackson
Moral equivalency had a bad day indeed:: U.S. (State Dept) official equates intifada and 'terror'
42 posted on 11/02/2001 2:47:00 PM PST by veronica
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To: Lazamataz
"A+Bert will be most upset."

Like we really, really care!

43 posted on 11/02/2001 2:59:53 PM PST by Redleg Duke
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To: Sabertooth
Thank you for the ping.
44 posted on 11/02/2001 3:17:46 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Belial
Thank you, Belial. Though I didn't encounter anything particularly incriminatting in any of the material you posted that was accessible.

Please note the letter below. Not that it necessarily demonstrates anything, but seemed then - as now - a logical assessment of my own feelings, based on my own expereinces.


24 JUL 1998

Senator Feinstein:

I've addressed this issue to your office once before and received no response, but I think it's important, so I'd like to do so once more.

I am disturbed by comments made yesterday I believe (7/23) by Congressman Joseph P Kennedy regarding his campaign to close the US Army School Of The Americas at Fort Benning, Georgia. He claims that human rights abuses perpetrated by SOA graduates in Latin American countries are doctrinal to the US Army training those officers have received at the school. My experience as an Army Vietnam combat veteran compels me to think this is not true. For as many human rights abuses as were committed by US troops in that conflict (and there were many), NONE were doctrinal. Rather they were human. If you recall the massacre at My Lai for example, it was finally stopped by a US Army helicopter crew who were determined not to let it continue. It is this concern for what is right that is constantly inculcated into US armed forces personnel, the contrary committed by a relative few notwithstanding.

What disturbs me furthermore about Kennedy's comments is how easy a target the military is for someone with a broader agenda. This is somewhat akin to the recent "Tailwind" fiasco at CNN: Sure, go ahead, disinform on the military. Who's going to say anything. Well...we know how that turned out...at least to a somewhat more constructionist extent. It's always much easier to tear something down than to build it up or try to improve upon it. Should Harvard University, or wherever Kennedy went to school, be closed because a relatively small minority of its alumni has at some point engaged in criminal or other anti-social behavior?

I am not saying that military activities should not be monitored. This is essential to a democracy and civilian governance. But to insist on closing the School of the Americas based on a very concerted campaign of disinformation does no service whatsoever to the United States and Latin America. Rather, I strongly feel it is in our country's best interests to foster strong military ties with as many other countries in our hemisphere as we can, knowing that it is also in our interests to "understand" the military thinking of their leadership as well for an obviously wide variety of militarily related reasons.

One other important point: If we don't take the most pro-active role in training and working with the military forces of Latin American nations, there are many other countries not necessarily friendly to US interests who would be only too happy to fill such a void.

Thank you very much.

"onedoug"
Los Angeles

From a letter Mr. "onedoug" sent to his Senator -- letter provided by Mr. "onedoug" to USARSA on 28 July 1998)

45 posted on 11/02/2001 4:06:02 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug
A well-written letter, and I mostly am in agreement. Except that I think the SOA has been an exception, and has crossed the line with their policy.
46 posted on 11/02/2001 5:13:24 PM PST by Belial
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To: veronica
I was wondering when this was going to happen.. It's about darn time.
47 posted on 11/02/2001 5:18:41 PM PST by Texas Mom
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To: IceCreamSocialist
Did George Washington's Continental Army deliberately target innocent women and children?
48 posted on 11/02/2001 6:00:45 PM PST by anapikoros
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To: veronica; CommiesOut; roughrider; Betty Jo; AtticusX; Wallaby; Uncle Bill; LSJohn; Judge Parker
The FBI is still NOT moving against known members of Hamas (OKC), Abu Nidal(Dallas,LA,DC), and ALqaeda(5 on East Coast identified by Bob Woodward=FBI admitted to him that FBI would NOT go after them!) that have been in the US for years and known to the FBI and DOJ and CIA.

AShcroft said yesterday that the USG would keep known members of Hamas and Hezbollah from coming into the US but he did not say the FBI or DOJ would do anything about the known cell members that are ALREADY in the US. Bush's order to freeze assets of these groups does not mean the FBI will go after these known Abu Nidal, AlQaeda and Hamas cell members nor go after the assests of these members already in the US. Bush and AShcroft and the FBI are being deceptive on this issue to Israel and the American people to appease the PLO,Syrians, the Saudis, radical Muslim Campaign contributers to Bush/Repub coffers.

The Hamas network in the US is still being preserved by the Bush administration to appease the Arabs even though Bush is falsely trying to make it appear he is going after their infrastructure in the US when in fact he is not, at least not yet. Maybe if Israeli intell and the Israeli government will verify my claims they then can then convince the US Congress and Bush to stop playing charades with Hamas , ABu Nidal and AlQaeda in the US so that not as many Americans and Israelis will get killed.

49 posted on 11/02/2001 7:05:05 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: sirgawain; Sabertooth
The president has made clear that Al-Qaida is the first organization that we're going after, but it's not the only terrorist organization," Boucher said.

Other groups among the 22 include eight Arab organizations, three Colombian groups, the Real Irish Republican Army (RIRA) and the Basque group ETA.


50 posted on 11/02/2001 8:37:30 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: veronica
It's about time. And I can't help but think Bush may be positioning things re: a Palestinian state. It has troubled me that he has been bringing this up. Now that these two are on the terrorist list, Arafat will not be far behind, and I would bet any Palestinian state would be contingent on Arafat being GONE.
51 posted on 11/03/2001 1:16:35 AM PST by MomwithHope
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To: jgrubbs
i thought President Bush was going to limit to terrorists with "global reach". The IRA does not pass the global reach parameters so I wonder why they were added.
52 posted on 11/03/2001 2:54:50 AM PST by not-an-ostrich
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To: veronica
"The United States on Friday added 22 groups, including Hamas and Hezbollah, to the list of "terrorist" groups under tight financial controls introduced after the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington."

kaBUMP!

53 posted on 11/03/2001 2:58:55 AM PST by mitch5501
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To: veronica
It's about time.
56 posted on 11/03/2001 7:18:59 AM PST by angkor
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To: Defend1
I saw that, he also said something about the cow in Exodus in the Bible being the mail with anthrax???
57 posted on 11/03/2001 6:41:28 PM PST by jgrubbs
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