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Bush Brings Back the Pledge
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Posted on 11/05/2001 8:19:51 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner

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1 posted on 11/05/2001 8:19:51 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Chairman_December_19th_Society; Miss Marple; illstillbe; Brian Allen; MadIvan; kachina...
Interesting article on the Pledge of Allegiance. While I can understand some literalists who question saying the pledge because they (mistakenly) see it as a pledge of allegiance to something that takes the place of God, I will continue to say the pledge and teach my children to do so. Besides, isn't it nice to do something that you know drives liberals crazy?
2 posted on 11/05/2001 8:24:54 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Jemian; lysander13135; kassie; calypgin; tillacum; M Kehoe
This one's for you too.
3 posted on 11/05/2001 8:33:03 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
I remember starting every school day with the Pledge of Allegiance. It really surprised me to learn a few years ago that this was no longer done in our schools. We even had a flag raising ceremony every morning. It is so sad that generations have been raised now that don't even know the words.

Everytime I hear it it brings tears to my eyes. So many fought and died for this flag, and this nation. We honor them and freedom when we recite this simple pledge .

For far too long there have been those who seek to divide us, this pledge says we are ONE NATION, not a bunch of diverse people that they have tried to make us.
Perhaps reciting this again will instill in the children of this nation the patriotism that we who are older have always felt which has been supressed for far too long.

4 posted on 11/05/2001 8:33:47 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: ladyinred
My friend has a 3 1/2 year old. He just blurted out the pledge one day. Said he had learned it at pre-school!
5 posted on 11/05/2001 8:37:08 PM PST by pnz1
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To: Singapore_Yank
Jesus said "Render onto Caesar that which is Caesar's"

This country deserves the same national loyalty and allegiance that any country would.

6 posted on 11/05/2001 8:38:44 PM PST by copycat
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To: copycat
For those who question whether Christians should exhibit such pledges of loyalty to America, I highly recommend this article from The Chalcedon Foundation:

Christian Patriotism?

7 posted on 11/05/2001 8:43:57 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Singapore_Yank
Thanks for posting this excellent article. The American people are starting to learn that we can ignore the ACLU's threats.
8 posted on 11/05/2001 8:49:42 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: marylina
You'll love this one!
9 posted on 11/05/2001 8:53:14 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Singapore_Yank
....because they (mistakenly) see it as a pledge of allegiance to something that takes the place of God,....

I believe the objection is the mere mention of God, not that they think it is a substitute for God. They want no mention of God, period.

Isn't it amazing what strong leadership can do. The sheople no longer seek refuge from condemnation but instead have come forth to face the dragon of liberalism. Thank you, President Bush!!

10 posted on 11/05/2001 9:02:19 PM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
"Isn't it amazing what strong leadership can do. The sheople no longer seek refuge from condemnation but instead have come forth to face the dragon of liberalism. Thank you, President Bush!!"

Here's your daily dose of cognitive dissonance: Bush is a liberal. Have you not been paying attention?

And the question isn't really about saying a religious pledge; it's about whether or not government schools can force and/or intimidate kids into reciting a religious pledge. Do you like government schools? Bush does. He and his fellow liberal Ted Kennedy not too long ago increased the unconstitutional authority and funding for government schools.

Of course, you could prove me wrong. Has the power of the federal government increased, or decreased, since Bush took office?

11 posted on 11/05/2001 9:31:39 PM PST by toenail
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
You're certainly correct in pointing out the objection of the mention of God. I was referring, though, to genuine conservative Christians who feel uncomfortable speaking out a pledge of allegiance to a symbol of a secular government and nation. I'm not one of them, but there are quite a few of them here at Free Republic and I assume that there will be some who show up on this thread sooner or later.
12 posted on 11/05/2001 9:33:34 PM PST by Mr. Mulliner
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To: toenail
And the question isn't really about saying a religious pledge; it's about whether or not government schools can force and/or intimidate kids into reciting a religious pledge.

Too bad The Pledge of Allegiance isn't a religious pledge, eh?

-The Hajman-
13 posted on 11/05/2001 9:39:48 PM PST by Hajman
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To: Singapore_Yank
And the left/dems still want to believe that our President GW Bush is a dumbie. Well youse guys just keep thinking that while he helps us take America back to some good, old, solid times when good is good and bad is bad and patriotism isn't just for sissy's and gets rid of the PC business etc, etc, etc...
14 posted on 11/05/2001 9:58:50 PM PST by blackbart1
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To: Hajman
"Too bad The Pledge of Allegiance isn't a religious pledge, eh?"

Then all those "conservatives" who yell about others wanting to "strip God out of the schools" by not saying the Pledge are rather stupid then, are they not?

If I asked you to say we're "one nation under Satan," I'm pretty sure you'd agree that it would be a religious pledge.

15 posted on 11/05/2001 10:01:41 PM PST by toenail
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To: blackbart1
"And the left/dems still want to believe that our President GW Bush is a dumbie."

I might just be horribly, horribly confused, but doesn't "left" commonly refer to those who work for increased government power? Bush is one of those.

16 posted on 11/05/2001 10:07:44 PM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
Then all those "conservatives" who yell about others wanting to "strip God out of the schools" by not saying the Pledge are rather stupid then, are they not?

Those that try to strip God out of the schools are trying to do so by any means...even if it means trying to keep even the word 'God' from entering schools (unless it's used as a cuss word, of course). This is just one brick in the wall they're trying to create. We're simply trying to keep them from making the wall any bigger.

If I asked you to say we're "one nation under Satan," I'm pretty sure you'd agree that it would be a religious pledge.

No I wouldn't. I'd just say it's a stupid comment, seeing how this nation isn't built on Satanists, and it detracts from what the Pledge stands for. It doesn't stand for Evil, it stands for Good. Now, if it was a prayer to Satan, then it would be religious. However, it's not.

-The Hajman-
17 posted on 11/05/2001 10:09:13 PM PST by Hajman
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To: Singapore_Yank
Thank you!! I've been struggling with this very issue of reconciling patriotism with my loyalties as a Christian. This article definitely helped me sort all of that out.

-penny

18 posted on 11/05/2001 10:13:07 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Hajman
"Those that try to strip God out of the schools are trying to do so by any means...even if it means trying to keep even the word 'God' from entering schools (unless it's used as a cuss word, of course). This is just one brick in the wall they're trying to create. We're simply trying to keep them from making the wall any bigger."

Alas, I'm off to other things, but here's my stock link for government school threads:

Alliance for the Separation of School and State

19 posted on 11/05/2001 10:27:35 PM PST by toenail
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To: toenail
Alliance for the Separation of School and State

You'll get no argument from me on that. Keep well!

-The Hajman-
20 posted on 11/05/2001 10:29:03 PM PST by Hajman
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