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To: t-shirt
I apologize if I read too much into your above statements.

I have only advocated that illegals and terror linked individuals be arrested and/or deported (as applicable) through existing Constitutional laws on immigration(not any new ones).

Nobody in his right mind would disagree with this statement. And I also advocate that we should all be really good-looking starting tomorrow, that there should be no more overweight people, and that the sun should always shine. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to make fun of you. All I am asking is how are you going to achieve this? You seem to pretending that the enforcement of the immigration laws would be costless. It is definitely not, and the costs depend very much on what is enforced in which way.

And you pretend that enforcing our immigration and deportation laws would some ghow created a police state,

Right back at ya - total control is by definition equal to a police state. Clearly getting all the illegals of the street requires all of us to carry a computerized national ID. Correct? How else are you going to identify them? What other measures would be necessary?

Do you deny that our government is not enforcing the deportation of illegals even though it is required by law?

Let's see - there are still robbers walking around in the US even though their arrest is required by law. No, I don't deny that there are illegals around, and I think that the government should do more to reduce their numbers. But that's where the discussion needs to start!
127 posted on 11/11/2001 6:35:18 PM PST by Economist_MA
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To: Economist_MA
I am not trying to make fun of you. All I am asking is how are you going to achieve this? You seem to pretending that the enforcement of the immigration laws would be costless.
-- Economist_MA

You aren't making fun of me when you continue to make up argument and attributes them to me, perhaps making yourself look bad, but not me.

I never said any such thing as "the enforcement of the immigration laws would be costless" as you falsely attribute to me.

It certainly might be costly monetarily, but far less costly than the high cost of arresting millions of illegal aliens for the tens of thousands of crimes they commit per year. In California, Texas and several other states illegal aliens make a large portion of the prison population. I would far rather pay the price of defending our border and for deporting millions of illegals than to allow the victimization of tens of thousands of Americans that many of the illegals commit crimes against. Is that even a cost in your way of reasoning?

Do you think that the billions of dollars that American citizens have to have to pay for "free" medical care for millions of illegals is costless?
Do you?

Do you think that the thousands per year for each of the illegals' children that Californians have to pay each year is costless?
Do you?

How many of your psychobabbler friends at the CFR advocate no multibillion dollar costing free education for illegal aliens?

130 posted on 11/11/2001 6:53:07 PM PST by t-shirt
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