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Objectively Pro-Terrorist Pacifists
Mercurial Times ^ | November 8, 2001 (but more on that below) | Aaron Armitage

Posted on 11/12/2001 12:06:18 PM PST by A.J.Armitage

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To: A.J.Armitage
BTTT- the article is right about the pitfalls of pacifism but it may be lost on those who are determined to be that way.
51 posted on 11/12/2001 8:52:52 PM PST by mafree
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To: A.J.Armitage
Sorry aout that AJ, things have been really busy for me lately, I hope they calm down soon and I can get back to normal.
52 posted on 11/13/2001 12:56:44 AM PST by WolfsView
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To: A.J.Armitage
Bump
55 posted on 11/13/2001 5:34:23 AM PST by Dustbunny
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To: DoughtyOne
How can you say that I would not be saved because I defended my wife?

I'm not saying it that. I'm saying that this is what the Amish sincerely believe in. You claimed not to defend your wife was evil, and I said that the pacifism of the Amish did not appear evil to me. If you sincerely held a belief that committing violence was a horrible sin, then it is not unreasonable to me that you would let your wife die (who also is a pacifist) and go to heaven, with you to join her someday (as opposed to you going to hell for committing an act of violence).

I think you guys have a twisted vision of what the Lord expects from us.

I don't have any view of what the lord expects from us.

To go out and kill for no reason is not right, but to kill in the defense of what is right, is a noble cause.

I don't disagree. I'm not a pacifist myself. But I don't agree that a sincerely held belief in pacifism cannot also be a noble cause.
56 posted on 11/13/2001 5:52:36 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: A.J.Armitage
bump for an exellent work
57 posted on 11/13/2001 6:04:46 AM PST by harpseal
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To: Uriel1975
Excellent #37. It's nice to see the priorities in war gotten straight for a change.

Cordially,

58 posted on 11/13/2001 7:52:17 AM PST by Diamond
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To: A.J.Armitage
Isolation was fine in a peaceful world dominated by European powers their r just too many threats today.
60 posted on 11/13/2001 8:35:32 AM PST by weikel
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To: mafree
We should not try to avoid a wider war "War is inevitable and let it come"( Patrick Henry)
61 posted on 11/13/2001 8:49:28 AM PST by weikel
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Isolation was fine in a peaceful world dominated by European powers their r just too many threats today.

So therefore we need to intentionally expose ourselves to new threats, as you advocate in your next post? Do you know how foolish that is?

And this is not chat. We spell out the word are.

62 posted on 11/13/2001 9:15:06 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: A.J.Armitage; WolfsView
Hi there, A.J.! What a debate thread this is turning out to be! Thanks so much for contributing to Merc Times!

WolfsView...thanks for "lending" him to me during your (hopefully brief!) hiatus. Hope you don't mind if we "share" him when you come back...and of course, do feel free to PING me into your threads so I can read 'em and show my appreciation for your generosity by bumping them!

63 posted on 11/13/2001 9:21:57 AM PST by Mercuria
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To: Uriel1975; A.J.Armitage
Uriel, excellent #37, and Aaron, excellent article.

Expanding on #37 and in particular the Brutal Peace codicil, the greatest folly of US involvement in the Israeli-Arab dispute was attempting to cushion the blows that the Arabs were receiving from Israel, as we did repeatedly and continue to do now. A decisive victory over the Palestinian terrorism, -- something that Israel was capable of achieving -- would have made the Arabs live with the consequences of their political choices; Arafat et al. would have been replaced with Arab leaders capable of negotiating peace. Now we should ponder to what extent the successful transformation of Arafat from a mass murderer to a statesman, the transformation that the US engineered, has influenced the bin Ladenite generation of terrorists.

64 posted on 11/13/2001 11:50:14 AM PST by annalex
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To: Mercuria
No problem shareing :) real life has been crazy as of late and has kept me away from extra curicular activities (starting up a new business, new baby ect.)
65 posted on 11/13/2001 8:25:28 PM PST by WolfsView
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To: weikel
We should not try to avoid a wider war "War is inevitable and let it come"( Patrick Henry)

You are right. Would that the pacifists saw it that way.

66 posted on 11/13/2001 8:37:43 PM PST by mafree
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