Posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:58 PM PST by Jean S
Excuse me? Did you read the appeals court decision? Any of the quotes I just offered? Am I 'speaking' to air?
Microsoft made no allegations of actual bias whatsoever! They made none of those claims in court, save the 'he spoke to the press a little too early' whine.
They never even *tried* to prove actual bias. They just complained about how it looked, knowing that it the mandatory response to their complaint was removal.
MS went Judge Shopping.
And as I posted above, direct quote -- Thus, although Microsoft alleged only appearance of bias, not actual bias, we have reviewed the record with painstaking care and have discerned no evidence of actual bias.
There was no evidence of bias, such as 'sleeping during MS's witnesses'. You're making that all up, in a lame attempt to put the blame for all this on the Judge.
You could save us all a lot of typing if you'd actually go read some of the court decisions and evidence in question . . .
Let me guess, you're Bill Gates and Shrub2000 is Steve Ballmer?
Oh, and just F.Y.I., I'm not in any way a fan or 'partisan' of Sun's. I find their hardware far too expensive for what you get. They're outstanding machines, but you can get the same performance for half the price.
Less, with a Linux cluster . . .
I'm only a 'cross-platform' programming partisan. Which does lead me to champion Java, of course.
But other than Java, I couldn't give a rats rear end about Sun. Now, compare that to the MS side of this discussion, which is dominated by MS employees who *only* use MS products, even when better choices are available.
Ah, how much fun it is to ride in a one-horse partisan parade, yes? I think the MS people are so blind because any developer willing to actually *look* at other technologies already switched away from MS years ago.
The only ones *left* doing MS stuff are the people afraid to evaluate alternatives.
Nope. I keep asking the Linux gurus for help here (trying to switch away from MS), but to no avail. It seems like us Linux newbies are too much trouble here, and in the news groups. Oh well.
oh well. back to the garage.
Probably because help-desk questions are quite usually considered off-topic. Not that I don't do this myself sometimes. :) You've probably noticed that the threads that do digress to technical discussions generally end up focusing on network administration and Java and the sorts of things that the techmeisters like Bush2000 and Innocentbystander are concerned with.
I'm a Linux newbie myself, and would love a forum to discuss Linux, but it shouldn't be done in the middle of a political discussion. I'm wondering if our intrepid founder and the moderators would mind a separate thread for Linux desktop questions? How about it Jim? Is such a thing too far from your original concept for FreeRepublic?
I have to admit to being a happy lad after finally getting a linux-based router and firewall working. Smoothwall. It was a piece of cake to install and setup. I never could get Mandrake to work properly with my ADSL connection. Now if I can just find a cheap 486 or early Pentium box so I can free up the more powerful box I'm using.
The most useful linux forum I've found is the Corel WP Office for Linux newsgroup, but it's focused mostly on problems with the office suite. I understand the frustration with the techies, though...there doesn't seem to be a real end-user focused forum anywhere (particularly for desktop use-the Corel forum is at least of some use there). You have to be at least a hobbiest (as I am--I know just enough to be dangerous) to even begin to understand some of the discussions.
I suppose this is probably one of the barriers to the market for Linux. Mandrake 8.0 installed like a champ on my machine, and some of the bundled software is "way cool," but if you have problems with other applications, tech support is limited to what you can glean off the net for yourself--some of it better than others.
Have you tried SuSe? Version 7.3 is reported as a Windows slayer at The Register, and a breeze to install and setup.
I'll probably be holding on to my Mandrake install for now since I paid good money for it (I know I could've downloaded it for free but I'm an impatient person and the version I bought included a horde of other killer apps.) My wife and I are actually interested in going a different route from windoze with our desktop configuration (we're hotkey fanatics--must come from working in WP for so long) so I'll probably work with tweaking all the various options and window-manager alternatives until it suits us...
Yet another advantage of the Open-Source movement--the sheer diversity enhances your ability to customize your environment to suit your own needs--not someone else's impression of your needs.
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