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Newspaper Recount Didn't Count All Votes: Washington Post Misreported Its Own Study
Human Events ^ | The Week of November 19, 2001 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:07 PM PST by Jean S

The lead story in the November 12 Washington Post concluded that "if [Vice President Al] Gore had found a way to trigger a statewide recount of all disputed ballots, or if the courts had required it, the result [of last year’s presidential election] likely would have been different."

The Post made this conclusion, it said, because: "An examination of uncounted ballots throughout Florida found enough where voter intent was clear to give Gore the narrowest of margins."

Nowhere in this lead story, however, did the Post reveal that the recount it conducted with a consortium of news organizations did not, in fact, recount "all disputed ballots," or even all of the same ballots that were disputed as of last November.

In another story in the same edition, the paper conceded that it counted "virtually all" of the ballots that were "uncounted" on Nov. 11, 2000. In yet another story in the same edition, the paper said: "The 175,010 ballots examined in the study represent more than 99% of the total number of undervotes and overvotes believed to have existed on Election Day."

So what did the Post’s recount actually count? All disputed ballots? Virtually all uncounted ballots? Ninety-nine per cent of the total number of undervotes and overvotes?

Well, there is still another option: Elsewhere in the same edition—not in an actual story, but in a caption above a graphic—the paper said: "A review of all uncounted ballots in Florida shows that Al Gore got more votes overall."

So, again, what is it? All disputed ballots? All uncounted ballots? Virtually all uncounted ballots? Or 99% of the undervoted and overvoted ballots? Does a precise and accurate answer to this question make any difference?

It does, if—like the Post—you are trying to earn credibility for the claim that the state of Florida made a mistake involving several dozen votes that switched the outcome of the U.S. presidential election.

The group of researchers at the University of Chicago that conducted the "recount" for the Post, the New York Times and other major papers concluded that a total of 176,466 Florida ballots in last November’s election had either no vote (an "undervote") or more than one vote (an "overvote") on the presidential section of the ballot. The researchers "recounted" only 175,010 of these ballots. By their own calculation, they missed 1,456 of them. That would explain the Post’s claim in one of its stories that it had recounted "99%" of the ballots.

Do these 1,456 missing ballots reflect on the credibility of the Post’s editorial conclusions? Absolutely, the Post’s declaration—in the second paragraph of its lead front-page story—that a "recount of all disputed ballots" would likely have changed the outcome of the election cannot be supported because the paper did not recount "all disputed ballots." No one did—ever.

But would the missing 1,456 ballots, if found tomorrow and added to the Post’s recount, bolster the Post’s speculation that Gore could have won if "all" disputed ballots were recounted? Maybe, maybe not. No one can know for sure. But here are some facts to consider:

According to the Post’s recount, if Gore had gotten what he demanded in court—a recount of all votes in Palm Beach, Broward, Volusia and Miami-Dade counties—Bush still would have won the election by 225 votes.

According to the Post’s recount, if the Florida Supreme Court had gotten what it wanted—a recount of all undervotes in every Florida county—Bush still would have won the election by 493.

In its desperate search to find a way that Gore could theoretically be awarded the election, the Post came up with yet another recount scenario that neither Gore nor the Florida Supreme Court had demanded. They recounted "all" (or "virtually all," or "more than 99%") of undervotes and overvotes statewide. Then, rather than apply one vote-counting standard statewide (as the U.S. Supreme Court said would be necessary to keep the recount consistent with the 14th Amendment’s equal protection requirement), the paper applied a different vote-counting standard in each county (adopting in each locality the unique standard that local officials say they would have used had not the 14th Amendment required a uniform standard).

Using these multiple standards—a recount of "all" (or "virtually all," or "99%") of the undervotes and overvotes, conducted by researchers at the University of Chicago—Gore would have eked out a 171-vote victory.

But that still ignores the 1,456 missing ballots. Might there not be enough Bush votes among those to change the winner back to Bush even under the Post’s own never-requested, multiple standard, unconstitutional vote recounting method?

David Keating, one of the reporters who wrote the story for the Post, says that statewide only about 13% of the undervoted and overvoted ballots revealed what the paper determined to be an intelligible vote for either Bush or Gore when recounted. That would mean by extrapolation that one could expect to find 189 intelligible votes among the 1,456 missing ballots. That, Keating argues, would not be enough to overcome Gore’s 171-vote margin in the Post’s recount.

Keating said that in some counties there is no record of how many undervoted and overvoted ballots were cast last November, so nobody knows for sure how many such ballots may be missing now. "In some counties," said Keating, "it’s a mythical number."

This raises questions about how the researchers at the University of Chicago arrived at the conclusion that there were 176,466 undervoted and overvoted ballots cast statewide in Florida, and that they recounted 175,010 of these, leaving only 1,456 uncounted.

These researchers, for example, indicate on their website that they believe they were missing 198 undervoted and overvoted ballots from Miami-Dade County. But Dade County Elections Supervisor David Leahy has a different estimate. "I’d say we probably had about a 98% reliability in pulling out all the overvotes and undervotes" for the newspaper recount, Leahy told Human Events. He attributed this margin of error to the understandable difficulty workers face trying to sort these ballots out as they run through counting machines.

The University of Chicago says Miami-Dade provided them with a total of 28,403 undervoted and overvotes. If this is off by 2%, as Leahy believes, that means the newspaper recount may have been missing 570 undervoted and overvoted ballots from Miami-Dade alone.

That would mean the newspaper recount was missing almost three times as many Miami-Dade ballots as it thought it was missing.

But these inconsistencies are not the only reasons that the newspaper recount is bogus. The re-re-recount also failed to deal with missing chads.

The liberal press did not want to report on the issue of missing chads the first time around either. But last November, when the original hand recounts were done in the four counties requested by Gore, many chads fell out of ballots as the recount was conducted—permanently altering the status of some ballots (click here for related story).

The Post’s Keating conceded that chads must have fallen out of ballots during the paper’s recount and that no effort was made to account for them. When asked if chads fell out while the newspapers were doing their recount, he said: "Some may have. I wouldn’t be able to quantify it. The fact of the matter is every time you paw over them more fall out. It’s been described—the counting room, when they’re feeding these things through the computers on election night—it’s described as looking like a snow storm of chads flying through the air."

Asked directly if the newspapers kept track of how many chads flew off the ballots during their recount, Keating said, "No. That was not something that there was any effort to try to—because if there’s a chad falling, lying on the floor, you don’t know if it came out of the presidential race, or another race, I mean you can’t, you don’t know. You don’t know if it came out today or last week. You don’t know if it came out of a ballot we’re looking at, or a ballot we’re not looking at."

So the Post’s recounters may or may not have cast some inadvertent "chad-flying" overvotes for Howard Phillips and John Hagelin. We will never know. But we do know this: This latest, and hopefully last, recount was not scientific, was not conducted according to constitutional standards, and was not reported to the public with strict accuracy.


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1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:07 PM PST by Jean S
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To: JeanS
The ballots that were double punched were 50 to 1 black Republicans. In other words, the democrats cheated. They double punched ballots to invalidate Bush votes.

Does the media care. Do they only report lies that support their position?

2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:09 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: JeanS
The ballots that were double punched were 50 to 1 black Republicans. In other words, the democrats cheated. They double punched ballots to invalidate Bush votes.

Does the media care. Do they only report lies that support their position?

3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:09 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: JeanS
I think we need to count again
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:09 PM PST by JIM O
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To: JeanS
it be's gettin' exponential! shee-it!
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: JeanS
The Washington Post and David Keating lied.

Imagine that.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: Brandonmark
Thought you would enjoy reading this one!
7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: JeanS
How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

It's amazing that people are dedicated to and can make a living examining hair splitting events and stretching credulity beyond the absurd. You can't wear, eat, or enjoy the product of their efforts. What a gross waste of human effort.

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts
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To: JeanS
Once again, NO MENTION OF THE DISQUALIFIED ABSENTEE (MILITARY) VOTES.

So, the headline should have been the following:
Florida Re-Count Shows Gore May Have Won, If Only Votes For Gore Were Counted!

9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by PetroniDE
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To: JIM O
I think we need to count again

I'm sure they've already started. Hell, for all we know, they could still be voting!

10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: GOPJ
Can you source that statement?
11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by dead
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To: GOPJ
exactly! That is why they had that STUPID hole punch ballot.

Line up a stack of them, punch a pencil through your guys name and viola! All votes for your guy stay good, and all votes for Bush end up 'double punched'.

12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: JeanS
In a recent poll, some 78% believe that we will never know the real tally. The media played up this statistic in order to make it seem that public perceptions translate to a subtle win for Gore. But, in the same polling, the same number believe that we should drop the matter and embrace Bush as our commander-in-chief. It's time to stop counting. We've wasted far too much time on a matter that is now moot. The reason that the Democrats are pursuing this matter is to try and invalidate Bush's mandate and lay the groundwork for 2004. We should just keep telling them, "It's time to move on. Get on the bus with the rest of the team and go in for the big win..."
13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:10 PM PST by Bush2000
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To: JeanS
On the issue of thrown out military ballots, what the heck happened there? Did they find and add them in? Did they exclude them all? Perhaps thousands that would be mostly for Bush? THIS I WOULD WANT TO KNOW!

Anyone out there have knowledge of any attempt to find this information out regarding the military vote?

This issue I would love to be better informed on and anyone who does so for me gets the merit of doing their good deed for the day!

THANKS!

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:11 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: JeanS
SAMPLE DNC MATH TEST

QUESTION 1:

What is 256 + 321 ?
A. 4
B. 577
C. 10
D. Whatever the DNC wants it to
E. I DEMAND ANOTHER RECOUNT

Answer later. Maybe.

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:11 PM PST by PetroniDE
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To: JeanS
OK, so MORE THAN ONE YEAR after the votes are counted and counted and counted again, and Bush keeps winning and winning and winning again, and now they find "new votes" ???? ?? ? ?
16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:11 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: GOPJ
"Does the media care. Do they only report lies that support their position?"

If you recall BEFORE election night Drudge bragged how he would release VNS Poll data BEFORE the networks did.
Sure enough, before the 2nd time zone in FL closed he "announced" Gore won.
Then Fox, according to O'Reilly, was the 1st network to "announce" Gore won before the FL polls had closed.
On election night I was at a friends house while she was on the State of FL election return site,
it showed Bush ahead while Fox and everyone else said Gore won.
I wonder how many Bush votes were lost by the 2nd time zone due to Drudge, Fox etc.
17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:11 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: JeanS
This is all becoming downright comical. I fully expected to hear later on that this "media consortium" finally brought in oracles to read tea leaves and the I Ching for them.
18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:11 PM PST by white rose
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To: JeanS
Someone please explain to me how come no one in the press talks about the fact that the only way Gore wins is if all undervotes and overvotes (i.e. all ILLEGAL votes) are tallied as votes for Gore.

This is all so darned stupid--there's a reason illegal votes are determined to be illegal--because it can't be determined who the voter voted for. Someone should start writing stories about how Bush wins Florida in a landslide if one counts all the votes that were for him that were then invalidated by a double-punched ballot. But we'll never hear THAT in the mainstream press...

It's really rather frightening, IMO, to see that fraud perpetrated by the libs will be silenced by the press and the truth will then be hidden from the people.... The idea of a "free press" is only an illusion, and it's a bit scarey if you ask me....

-penny

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:11 PM PST by Penny1
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To: dead
Los Angeles Times, 11/12/01, by John Lott and James Glassman :

A MUST READ: GOP Was the Real Victim in Fla. Vote

20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:25:13 PM PST by Jean S
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