Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Statement for the Government Reform Committee Hearing on National ID Card Proposals
Lew Rockwell.com ^ | November 16, 2001 | Ron Paul

Posted on 11/18/2001 8:48:09 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

Mr. Chairman, thank you for holding this important hearing examining the question of whether national ID cards would enhance security. Protecting the security of the American people from foreign threats is the most important responsibility of the federal government, and there is much the government needs to do in this area. Among the steps the federal government should take is to restrict immigration from countries which support or harbor terrorists, and implement policies to effectively enforce existing immigration laws. Moreover, private property owners certainly can take steps to protect their property from terrorists and other criminals. For example, it is perfectly legitimate for airlines to issue private ID cards to passengers and perform background checks as a condition of selling them a ticket.

However, Congress should reject proposals which provide only the illusion of security, while in reality simply eroding constitutional government and individual liberty. Perhaps the most onerous example of a proposal that creates the illusion of security (yet really promotes servitude) is the plan to force all Americans to carry a national ID card. A uniform national system of identification would allow the federal government to inappropriately monitor the movements and transactions of every citizen. History shows that when government gains the power to monitor the actions of the people, it inevitably uses that power in harmful ways.

A national ID card threatens liberty, but it will not enhance safety. Subjecting every citizen to surveillance actually diverts resources away from tracking and apprehending terrorists toward needless snooping on innocent Americans! This is what has happened with "suspicious activity reports" required by the Bank Secrecy Act. Thanks to BSA mandates, federal officials are forced to waste time snooping through the private financial transactions of innocent Americans merely because their banking activities seem suspicious to a bank clerk.

Furthermore, the federal government has no constitutional authority to require law-abiding Americans to present any form of identification before engaging in private transactions (e.g. getting a job, opening a bank account, or seeking medical assistance). As we consider how best to enhance the federal government's ability to ensure the safety of the people, it is more important then ever that Congress remain mindful of the constitutional limitations on its power.

In conclusion, Mr. Chairman, I once again express my gratitude to the committee for holding this important hearing. I also would remind my colleagues that national ID cards are a trademark of totalitarianism that contribute nothing to the security of the American people. I therefore urge my colleagues to reject all proposals for a national ID, and focus instead on measures that will effectively protect both security and liberty.

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS:

1 posted on 11/18/2001 8:48:09 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: tex-oma
ping
2 posted on 11/18/2001 8:50:38 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Bump for Ron Paul the best Congressman we have.
3 posted on 11/18/2001 9:02:56 PM PST by Free the USA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
How do Freepers feel, about a highly secure type of card for ALL non-citizens? It would be issued in our embassies overseas, after background checks. It would be the beginning of a database, to be used for tracking entry, school attendance, exit, etc.
4 posted on 11/18/2001 9:40:23 PM PST by truth_seeker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Have you heard anyone in Washington advocate deporting all of that tiny fifth column of Arab and/or Moslem aliens - rather than gulaging the overwhelming majority of U.S. residents who are native-born American citizens?

How to crash "national ID cards" before they are enacted

5 posted on 11/18/2001 9:46:37 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truth_seeker
How do Freepers feel, about a highly secure type of card for ALL non-citizens? It would be issued in our embassies overseas, after background checks. It would be the beginning of a database, to be used for tracking entry, school attendance, exit, etc.

This is just one FReepers opinion.
I don't think that these cards would work. As soon as the first card is issued, regardless of how secure, somebody is going to start working on a way to defeat the technology that makes the card secure. How thorough of a background check can possibly be performed on a foreign national? Are they being honest or not and how will the "investigators" know either way?

I just don't see it happening.

6 posted on 11/18/2001 10:05:52 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: glc1173@aol.com
Have you heard anyone in Washington advocate deporting all of that tiny fifth column of Arab and/or Moslem aliens - rather than gulaging the overwhelming majority of U.S. residents who are native-born American citizens?

Unfortunately, I haven't.

7 posted on 11/18/2001 10:07:39 PM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

Comment #8 Removed by Moderator

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
I'll have a National ID Card when they stick it in my cold, dead hands!!
9 posted on 11/18/2001 10:43:48 PM PST by Nitro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nitro
I will not apply for one or cooperate in its issuing. If one is issued to me, I will mail it to my Congressman with a 5 shot group fired at 200 meters and a note so labling it.
10 posted on 11/19/2001 3:48:26 AM PST by Rifleman
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Rifleman
More research:

http://www.nwfusion.com/auddev/pop/FOC163.html

http://www.warroom.com/newnatid.htm

http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2001/oct01/01-10-10.shtml

11 posted on 11/19/2001 4:39:45 AM PST by GailA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
I would also add that a terrorist would only need to forge documents that say he's a naturalized citizen, not the "highly secure" document given to aliens. If someone confronted by law enforcment and they produce documents showing that they are a citizen, you can't expect them to have the "highly secure" alien documents.

That isn't to say that I think this argument should be used to support a "secure" national ID card for everybody. I'm only pointing out that a card for aliens only is a huge waste of money and effort.

12 posted on 11/19/2001 9:56:55 AM PST by cc2k
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Furthermore, the federal government has no constitutional authority to require law-abiding Americans to present any form of identification before engaging in private transactions (e.g. getting a job, opening a bank account, or seeking medical assistance).
Unfortunately, this hasn't stopped the Social Security number and card and federally regulated state issued drivers licenses from becoming a defacto National ID. It also hasn't stopped the federal goverment from trying to come up with some kind of federally mandated "healthcare identifier" to protecterode our privacy.
13 posted on 11/19/2001 10:01:22 AM PST by cc2k
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Rifleman
That is worth a Chuck Conners bump!!
14 posted on 11/19/2001 5:58:59 PM PST by Nitro
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Looks good to me!
15 posted on 11/19/2001 6:02:14 PM PST by Cold Heat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: truth_seeker
I have no problem with your idea. It has been proposed and is in place for the Mexicans. All they need to do is expand it and make it better in order to trace locations and movements.
16 posted on 11/19/2001 6:05:13 PM PST by Cold Heat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson