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Posted on 11/21/2001 6:51:04 AM PST by RCW2001

The Jerusalem Post

Let Pollard go


November, 21 2001

(November 21) - It was 16 years ago today that Jonathan Pollard, an American Jew working as a US Navy intelligence analyst, went to jail for the crime of passing classified information to Israel. Though Pollard's crime was serious and briefly cast a shadow over US-Israel relations, justice demands that he now be set free.

Without minimizing the gravity of Pollard's actions, the fact is that allies occasionally spy on each other, whether for political, military, or industrial gain. But while in other instances, those caught engaging in such "friendly espionage" are briefly detained, Pollard was sentenced to life in prison without parole, a term unprecedented in severity.

Indeed, the sentence violated the plea bargain agreed to by the US Justice Department and Pollard's attorney. Pollard was never indicted for harming the United States and was never charged with treason. The one count against him - that of passing classified information to an ally, without intent to harm the US - has never resulted in a life sentence for any other person. And while the median sentence for this offense is generally two to four years, even agents who have committed far more grievous offenses on behalf of hostile countries did not receive the same treatment accorded to Pollard.

In recent years, the Pollard issue has brought together a unique constellation of figures calling for clemency. Legal luminaries, such as Alan Dershowitz and Irwin Cotler, have been outspoken in their support for releasing Pollard, and the issue has cut across ideological and political boundaries here. Last year, in an unusual joint letter, Binyamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak wrote: "Concerning Mr. Pollard, the people of Israel and virtually all its political parties stand as one."

Though upon Pollard's arrest, Israel initially sought to distance itself from the affair, claiming that it was conducted as a "rogue operation," the past decade has seen a dramatic shift in that position. In November 1995, Israel granted Pollard citizenship, while in May 1998, the Netanyahu government issued a statement recognizing Pollard as an Israeli agent and accepting full responsibility for him. All prime ministers from Yitzhak Rabin onward have appealed to successive American administrations to grant clemency, but none of these efforts have borne fruit. The closest Pollard came to being released was a promise made by Bill Clinton to Netanyahu at the Wye summit in the fall of 1998 that in exchange for signing the deal, Netanyahu would be able to take Pollard back home in freedom. Unfortunately, at the last minute, Clinton reneged.

To mark the anniversary of Pollard's incarceration, the Knesset will hold a special session this morning at which speakers from across the political spectrum - including the Likud, Labor, Meretz, Shas, National Religious Party, Yisrael Ba'aliya, and the National Union - will all voice support for his release. In addition, former Sephardic chief rabbi Mordechai Eliahu will address a gathering in Jerusalem this evening on the subject.

There is no denying that Pollard violated the trust of his employer, the US government and took the law into his own hands by providing Israel with intelligence information he deemed crucial to its national security. Indeed, Pollard himself wrote of his "deep remorse" in a letter to Clinton last year. But there is also no denying that serving 16 years in prison, including seven years in solitary confinement, is more than enough to atone for his debt to society.

At a time when the US is engaged in a war on terror, the lines between friend and foe have never been clearer or more unambiguous. As a close ally of America, Israel has been asked by the Bush administration to make certain sacrifices on behalf of the greater good. It is only fitting, then, that America respond in kind and make a gesture of goodwill to the Israeli people, all of whom wish to see Jonathan Pollard free in Jerusalem. Pollard did the crime, and he has done his time. It is now time for America to let him go.




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1 posted on 11/21/2001 6:51:04 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Yeah. Good idea. Let him go swing from a rope.
2 posted on 11/21/2001 6:53:56 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: RCW2001
The only Pollard deserves is a bullet. Treason is a capital offense, no exceptions.
3 posted on 11/21/2001 6:53:56 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: Taylor42
oooppss!

The only thing...
(so much for my proofreading skills)
5 posted on 11/21/2001 6:56:14 AM PST by Taylor42
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To: Taylor42
It's really a no go situation.
6 posted on 11/21/2001 6:57:03 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: AppyPappy
ditto
7 posted on 11/21/2001 6:58:20 AM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: RCW2001
LET POLLARD ROT. SPY IS SPY, TRAITOR IS TRAITOR. HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS ACTIONS...LET HIM BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.
8 posted on 11/21/2001 6:58:55 AM PST by Rebelcajun
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To: AppyPappy
Oh damn! I was gonna say that.

Now all that's left is "go take a long walk off a short pier", and I don't want to say that cause it's lame.

9 posted on 11/21/2001 6:59:43 AM PST by dead
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To: RCW2001
NEVER let him go. Now, more than ever, we see the need of loyalty to one's country. He betrayed the USA in a sensitive position working for the Navy. The only way to discourage people like him from doing that kind of crime is to deal with them very harshly. I was very afraid Clinton would let him go - and I'll be bitterly disappointed if the Bush administration lets him out.
10 posted on 11/21/2001 7:00:35 AM PST by Diverdogz
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To: RCW2001
Legal luminaries, such as Alan Dershowitz

The writer lost all credibility with that line.

11 posted on 11/21/2001 7:01:31 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: RCW2001
LOL. If there is one thing to which you can flip your calender pages, it is the monthly commentary by the free pollard lobby.
12 posted on 11/21/2001 7:01:38 AM PST by jmp702
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To: RCW2001
allies occasionally spy on each other

Pollard was not an ally, he was a member of the U.S. Navy.
He signed and swore an oath to protect the classified material
to which he was allowed access.
He took the decision to violate that oath and became a traitor to his country.
He should have been executed.

13 posted on 11/21/2001 7:02:24 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: RCW2001
He should be executed. He sold info related to tracking our trident submarines to our "allies" Israel, who would have no use for such information whatsoever except to trade it with the Russians.
14 posted on 11/21/2001 7:03:04 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: Taylor42
Prove the Treason. To what enemy did Pollard give secrets?
15 posted on 11/21/2001 7:03:08 AM PST by bvw
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To: Taylor42
The only Pollard deserves is a bullet. Treason is a capital offense, no exceptions.

I only had time to scan the highlights of the article.
If it was in the article, I missed any mention of Pollard's wife involvement and
her giving away some of the stolen material to Chinese interests in hopes of
promoting herself professionally.
(At least that's what I recall from reading other sources.)

Pollard (and his wife) were lucky the USA cut them such a generous deal. Both of them
got to live, even if one (hopefully) won't see the outer walls of prison.
(OK, when he's maybe hit 70 or has has a terminal disease...then even I might
think about a bit of leniency.)
16 posted on 11/21/2001 7:04:08 AM PST by VOA
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To: RCW2001
Pollard deserved execution. His life was magnanimously spared.

He should quit while he's ahead.

17 posted on 11/21/2001 7:04:26 AM PST by wideawake
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To: RCW2001
A sticky mess this one, consistancy of punishment should lead to release and expulsion. Perhaps a trade, Burak for Pollard. Barak certainly showed his interest in supporting the U.S. far exceded his loyality to Israel.
18 posted on 11/21/2001 7:05:32 AM PST by hsszionist
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To: VOA
People are throwing the Treason word around mighty carelessly.
19 posted on 11/21/2001 7:06:26 AM PST by bvw
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To: RCW2001
" Legal luminaries, such as Alan Dershowitz and Irwin Cotler"

If these guys complete Pollard's sentence for him........

20 posted on 11/21/2001 7:09:45 AM PST by verity
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To: bvw
trea·son (trzn)
n.
1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Does that answer your question? He betrayed our trust and confidence, and he violated his alliegience toward his country. I also beleive that he did aid his enemy, because he had to have known that Israel had no use for the info he gave them excpet to pass it on to the russians.

21 posted on 11/21/2001 7:10:48 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: RCW2001
There is no denying that Pollard violated the trust of his employer, the US government

His employer? Pollard violated the trust placed in him by his nation, and he knew what the penalties were because he signed a piece of paper acknowledging those penalties when his nation granted him a security clearance.

If I violated the trust placed in me by my employer, I would be fired. If I violated the trust placed in me by my nation, I would expect to be punished severely.

Thing is, it wouldn't happen. America, my nation, comes in importance only after God. I guess it's a touch further down for Pollard, after Israel and his bank account. Let him rot, to punish him and to serve as an example to others.

Semper Fidelis

22 posted on 11/21/2001 7:11:16 AM PST by Jarhead_22
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To: bvw
Treason is betraying your country. It does not make a scintilla of difference to whom you betray it. You are still a traitor.

Above and beyond his treason, he was not just an ordinary citizen with the ordinary responsibility not to sell one's country out for cash. He was a member of the US Armed Forces and had taken on an even graver level of responsibility - and he took the first paid opportunity to violate that responsibility.

Message to Israel boosters: the number one issue that prevents Israel from making thousands of new friends on the right is the continual defense by Israel boosters of this traitor's indefensible behavior.

23 posted on 11/21/2001 7:12:09 AM PST by wideawake
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To: hsszionist
A sticky mess this one, consistancy of punishment should lead to release and expulsion. Perhaps a trade, Burak for Pollard.

Ridiculous. You trade spies when one of your own is caught spying in another country, and vice-versa. Pollard was not an israeli, he was an american. He is not Israel's, and they have no claim to him.

24 posted on 11/21/2001 7:12:29 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: RCW2001
Yes I agree send him to Israel. Since UPS has a weight limit it will take three boxes though.
26 posted on 11/21/2001 7:15:12 AM PST by junta
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To: bvw
People are throwing the Treason word around mighty carelessly

From Webster's Ninth New Collegiate dictionary (U.S. Government editon) 1986

treason 1: the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY

27 posted on 11/21/2001 7:15:58 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: Taylor42
I do not defend spies - as there is no defense for betraying your Country.

But I will correct you, he was not charged with or convited of Treason. Words like Treason have specific meanings.

28 posted on 11/21/2001 7:16:26 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: RCW2001
Most spies do it for the money, he did it because he pledged allegiance to Israel. Which means that he never felt guilty about it, and he never will feel guilty about it.

I think he should be thankful that they don't retry him under the Military Tribunal law. If you're a spy, you should have to pay the price when you get caught. Death!

What ever happened to those good old days, when they used to punish treason with death?

29 posted on 11/21/2001 7:16:32 AM PST by jerod
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To: RCW2001
Without minimizing the gravity of Pollard's actions...

Israelis have been doing nothing but "minimizing the gravity of Pollard's actions" ever since he was caught.

The TRAITOR Pollard must not be released, especially at this critical moment in US/Israel relations.

30 posted on 11/21/2001 7:17:08 AM PST by beckett
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To: bvw
Prove the Treason. To what enemy did Pollard give secrets?

Pick one. The fact is that some information is kept classified by the US government that only the US has a compelling interest in keeping secret. If an ally or friend (as Israel certainly is) gets hold of that information, they may have neither the compelling interest nor the national security apparatus to keep it from others.

Thus, once information leaves the US national security apparatus, it is "in play" and God knows who has access to it.

The fact that he was not working for an enemy or motivated by money probably saved his life, but he put very many Americans in potential danger.

31 posted on 11/21/2001 7:17:37 AM PST by AmishDude
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To: ASA Vet
U.S. Code as of: 01/05/99 Section 2381. Treason


      Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war
    against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and
    comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason
    and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five
    years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and
    shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.



Many of you don't seem to care, but we have laws with specific words for a reason. The word enemies is essential to make a charge of Treason. That is not to say, Pollard did not betray the US and is fully deserving of punishment. The issue is, his crime was not Treason, it was something esle.

32 posted on 11/21/2001 7:21:40 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: RCW2001
In addition to my remarks in Post #30, I also have to say that it is beyond belief that some Israelis would lobby for Pollard's release---highlighting their concern for an American traitor---at a time when Americans are still mourning the recent loss of thousands of their countrymen, a loss which had no small connection to the last fifty years of conflict in the Levant.
33 posted on 11/21/2001 7:24:30 AM PST by beckett
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To: TheOtherOne
You are correct that he was not charged with treason.

However, traitor is a common english word, meaning "betrayal of trust". I beleive that he is a traitor.

I say that Bill Clinton is a rapist, even though he was not convicted of rape. I say that OJ Simpson is a murderer, even though he was not convicted of murder. I also say that Jonathan Pollard is a traitor.

34 posted on 11/21/2001 7:26:25 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: RCW2001
Without minimizing the gravity of Pollard's actions, the fact is that allies occasionally spy on each other, whether for political, military, or industrial gain. But while in other instances, those caught engaging in such "friendly espionage" are briefly detained, Pollard was sentenced to life in prison without parole, a term unprecedented in severity.

Beware of the "BUTS"! "Sure, I know it's a crime and everything, BUT everybody does it!" "Waaaaaaa! Waaaaaa! It's just not fair! Waaaaaaa! Waaaaa!" Get real and grow up! It is part of the game, and all the players know the consequences of getting caught.

Pollard did the crime, and he has done his time. It is now time for America to let him go.

BIG FAT LIE! LIARS, ALL OF THEM! HE HASN'T DONE HIS TIME--HE WILL SERVE OUT HIS SENTENCE, WHICH IS LIFE, LIKE IT OR NOT! THE ONLY WAY HE'LL LEAVE PRISON IS HORIZONTALLY, IN A COFFIN! He is a T-R-A-I-T-O-R! For crying out loud, this guy must have some really influential and completely shameless, crooked, corrupt and anti-American friends to keep going on with this.

35 posted on 11/21/2001 7:27:28 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: beckett
In addition to my remarks in Post #30, I also have to say that it is beyond belief that some Israelis would lobby for Pollard's release---highlighting their concern for an American traitor---at a time when Americans are still mourning the recent loss of thousands of their countrymen, a loss which had no small connection to the last fifty years of conflict in the Levant.

Look, every event is a reason to release the traitor Pollard. I wouldn't be surprised to see an editorial "The sun came up today - so the U.S. should release Jonathon Pollard."

36 posted on 11/21/2001 7:27:58 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: TheOtherOne
"The word enemies is essential to make a charge of Treason."

Please explain if spying is the action of an enemy or a friend.

37 posted on 11/21/2001 7:29:39 AM PST by gatex
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To: Rodney King
But a unique proposal, which should smooth the sensabilities of all.
38 posted on 11/21/2001 7:30:17 AM PST by hsszionist
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To: bvw
Prove the Treason. To what enemy did Pollard give secrets?

1. Treason: you may have a valid lawyer's question on that one. I guess legally, treason
has to occur in a time of a declared war. So, you might be correct in calling the forum to
notice Pollard and wife were committing theft, espionage, and security breaches
during "peacetime" (as if the USA will ever really experience that in totality).

2. I only know what I've read in a few article (and true, what the guvmint has claimed).
The basic claim is that Pollard absconded with a load of security materials that would
just about fill a modest size Ryder truck. And then his wife passed some to Chinese
interests in hopes of advancing herself professionally. I think she was starting or working
with some public relations-lobbying outfit.
So, if Mr. Pollard had a clue that his wife was doing this...he's where he belongs.
For a long time.

And I don't have any ideological/ethnic axe to grind. Anyone working for the USA
defense/security establishment that has more fundamental loyalties to another country...
should resign, change citizenship and go to work for the defense/security establishment
in his new homeland.
39 posted on 11/21/2001 7:30:24 AM PST by VOA
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"Let Pollard Go..." to Hell.
40 posted on 11/21/2001 7:30:27 AM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: RCW2001
Wonder why they have such a strong interest in getting him out of prison.
41 posted on 11/21/2001 7:30:51 AM PST by gatex
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To: RCW2001
For some reason, I have a hard time feeling sympathy for a traitor -- especially on the argument that other spies and traitors haven't been punished as severely. Why not point out all the ways Bill Clinton has betrayed the U.S.?

The material Pollard passed to Israel should NEVER NEVER NEVER have been passed to unauthorized parties: it included U.S. intelligence sources and methods, including names and locations of undercover agents!

But the final nail in the coffin for Pollard is that he sold the information to Israel (for about $50,000 in all) over a period of about 18 months. He was a freakin' profiteer!

When some scumbag sells out the U.S., he sells out me, my family, my friends, and everyone I know. I have no forgiveness to offer for such an ultimate, sweeping crime, and no patience for those weasels who seek to minimize how evil such treachery is.

Let the rat bastard rot, I say.

Imal

42 posted on 11/21/2001 7:33:12 AM PST by Imal
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To: VOA
I forgot about the chinese angle. Anyway, there is no need for it to be a declared war. The Rosenbergs got the frying they deserved at a time when no war was declared.
43 posted on 11/21/2001 7:33:26 AM PST by Rodney King
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To: TheOtherOne
I would include, in the class of "enemy," a country that knowingly passed classified United States material to the Soviet Union. Pollard knew or should have known that the secrets that he was passing to our dear friends in Tel Aviv would be passed to the Soviets, the Chinese, etc.
44 posted on 11/21/2001 7:33:30 AM PST by rogerthedodger
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To: TheOtherOne
U.S. Code as of: 01/05/99 Section 2381. Treason

Pollard started serving his prison time in 1985 so your 1999 version of the U.S. Code is irrelevant..

45 posted on 11/21/2001 7:36:24 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: beckett
especially at this critical moment in US/Israel relations.

Dontcha think that's the point? With the US now pushing for Palestinian statehood, the release of Pollard is being re-floated as a consolation prize.

46 posted on 11/21/2001 7:39:43 AM PST by Romulus
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To: RCW2001
I've heard two additional tidbits about the Pollard case from friends in the intel biz: 1) There were other "sayonim" spying at the same agency, and Pollard refused to name them. This is the reason that a number of Jews lost their clearances throughout the intel establishment. The investigators knew there were more but could not identify them. 2) Someone in the Mossad decided to resell the info to the Russkies for hard cash which was unforgiveable behavior for an ally. My country must remain steadfast. Pollard may be a hero in Israel, but his actions make him a traitor in the U.S.A. Serving his sentence sends the message to all dual-nationality Americans that treason is treason. My religion may be Judaism and I may love Israel, but my first loyalty will always be the United States of America.
48 posted on 11/21/2001 7:45:23 AM PST by darth
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To: ASA Vet
Wow, I can't rebut that. LOL.
49 posted on 11/21/2001 7:47:22 AM PST by TheOtherOne
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To: gatex
"Wonder why they have such a strong interest" in springing Pollard. I think it is the guilt they feel for not having anticipated his capture. Certainly, Israel has felt no guilt for spying on the United States. Why should they? Their spying really began with a Zionist cabal active during World War II.
50 posted on 11/21/2001 7:50:31 AM PST by gaspar
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