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Abortion/breast cancer link can't be denied
Daily Herald (Chicago) ^ | Posted on November 18, 2001 | Karen Malec, president, Coalition on Abortion

Posted on 11/23/2001 10:16:11 PM PST by AgThorn

Abortion/breast cancer link can't be denied
This is in response to an Oct. 9 letter by Emele J. Peters, "Link between abortion, breast cancer unproven".

Last month was Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Tens of thousands of people participated in the Race for the Cure sponsored by the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation.

Our women's group is troubled this foundation doesn't recognize 44 years of research and 28 studies linking abortion with breast cancer. All are listed on our Web site, www.AbortionBreastCancer.com.

The foundation's use of recall bias theory to dismiss the research is inexcusable. Recall bias says that patients are more likely to honestly report their past abortions than healthy women (or that, unbelievably, patients make up abortions they've never had). The problem is that although a number of teams of scientists have tested for it, no one ever found plausible evidence of it. A Swedish team which tested for it found itself in the position of having to explain why seven patients said they'd had abortions that computerized records said they'd never had. Faced with having to argue that the women either lied or over-reported their abortions, this team withdrew its ridiculous claim of having found evidence of recall bias.

Although the foundation identifies postponement of a first-term pregnancy and childlessness as risk factors, it provides funding for breast cancer screening to Planned Parenthood, an abortion provider and a distributor of contraceptives. This is akin to an anti-cancer organization providing funds to a tobacco company to screen for lung cancer.

Scientists from the Centers for Disease Control and the National Institute of Health warned in 1986 that "induced abortion before first-term pregnancy increases the risk of breast cancer." A medical book published in 1998 and the 1988 Henderson lecture identify abortion as a risk factor. Scientists have long known, but are reluctant to say to the public, "Abortion causes breast cancer." It's time to put women's lives ahead of greed and ideology so that women who've had abortions can take steps to reduce their risks and seek early detection of the disease.

Karen Malec, president

Coalition on Abortion/

Breast Cancer

Palos Heights


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News
KEYWORDS: abortionlist; christianlist; christianpersecutio

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1 posted on 11/23/2001 10:16:11 PM PST by AgThorn
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To: AgThorn
I would like to see one legitimate study that corrects for other potential contributing factors and comes to this conclusion.
2 posted on 11/23/2001 10:23:01 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: AgThorn
Pro-Life Bump!!
3 posted on 11/23/2001 11:19:36 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: AgThorn
PRO LIFE BUMP!!!

I DESPISE the spin of "PRO CHOICE." It's for the cowardly who don't have the guts to say.. "I CHOOSE to kill a baby/babies,when it suits me," which is the God's honest truth. I want the conservative media to use that term: KILLING A BABY and stop this charade. For anyone who cares about the subject, I hope you'll use that term, and say it as it really is to break up this propagandizing of softening a murder.

Anyone .. any woman especially, who has taken the time to learn about the effects of estrogen on humans (estrogen: whose mission is to grow, proliferate ((I LOVE THAT ... PRO LIFE RATE .. never really saw that before)), multiply) will grasp the absolutely logical conclusions that can be drawn from being overloaded with estrogens. Not only do we gals manufacture it, but we're exposed to all kinds of fake or xenoestrogens in exposures to chemicals in foods, pesticides, and beauty and personal care products that use petrochemicals in their ingredients, etc. Our bodies were never designed to process and eliminate these fake estrogens, they're like plastic that just doesn't break down, and they're evil; therefore, they accumulate in the fatty tissues of our bodies until the body cannot take that "grow" message anymore.

Over years of accumulation, I do believe the body cannot tolerate the abundance of estrogens we can absorb, and that is why I believe we are seeing horrendous breast cancer statistics, and tragically in younger and younger gals.

On the other hand, progesterone is a mother gland and a neutralizer of the effects of estrogen. Numerous documentation exists that show this benefit. I use progesterone cream every day .. because I know that as much as my diet and personal choices are made to be estrogen-free, there are too many chemicals that act like estrogen in the body that I may unintentionally absorb, and I truly believe in its protective qualities. It's even been shown to be a benefit in protecting men from prostate cancer.

Progesterone is vital for the baby to survive in the womb, and massive quantities of it are secreted during pregnancy to ensure the its survival. I believe it's possible that killing that baby shuts down the progesterone, which is has been so protective, and therefore opens up the body to un-neutralized estrogen .... an unnatural state ... as the breast tissue is protected during the pregnancy so that the mother can nurse.

So, it makes perfect sense ...in addition to all the chemicals we're exposed to that mimick estrogen in the body, the more years a gal is not pregnant is that many more exposures monthly of estrogen. And, unnaturally ending a pregnancy causes an unnatural imbalance of hormones that can lead to this risk.

It all gets back to how we were innately designed, it's biblical, much as the Feminazzis hate it. When you fight God and Mother Nature, there can be unsuspected consequences.

God Bless the Innocents ... please pray for them! Here's a website .. check out the Estrogen Connection page:

Link to Website

4 posted on 11/24/2001 12:51:47 AM PST by STARWISE
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Read my post above. There may just be a lot you aren't aware of.
5 posted on 11/24/2001 1:05:29 AM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
Would you then, oh expert, care to explain WHY women died from breast cancer ( no , it was NOT a RARE hapenstance for women to get / die from breast cancer millenia ago ) BEFORE abortions were legal, BEFORE estrogen was in whatever you think it's now in , and what of women who have NEVER had an abortion Also, just in case you don't know, men ca anddo get breast cacer; it's just something that isn't talked about very much.

Oh, and before you start assuming that am advocating abortion, please don't. am NOT doing any such thing !

6 posted on 11/24/2001 1:05:34 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I truly don't believe the statistics of breast cancer and, all cancers for that matter, decades ago compare to what we experience today ... and most especially in gals in their 20's and 30's. And the incidents of childhood cancers have exploded in the last decade. It is so sad ... and I'm not being combative ... wonder why you are.

For one thing, the chemical invasion into our culture just didn't exist decades ago .. they've created hundreds of thousands of powerful chemicals in the last 15-20 years .. synthetic everything that the body wasn't designed to handle. Engineered foods weren't around decades ago. Cows weren't pumped full of steroids and hormones to fatten them up for market decades ago.

Many fat-free and low calorie products have been so dried by the removal of standard oils and fats that they add a petroleum chemical humectant, same thing that's in lotions and skin moisturizers. You'll find it, among other things, in some brands of canned frosting and fat-free sour cream.

Ask parents of teenage children how much quicker this generation is maturing compared to theirs ... little girls of 10 and 11 are starting their periods and growing breasts even younger. There's plenty of information readily available if you're truly interested.

7 posted on 11/24/2001 1:40:16 AM PST by STARWISE
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To: nopardons
By the way, the reason I've learned so much about this subject over my lifetime is that I lost my Dear Dad to cancer when I was 16 .. he was 42. The suffering he endured was devastating, as was the devastation in my life and my family's.

He worked like a dog at a very stressful job, got chronic stomach ulcers, and unfortunately he liked his alcohol, which is can be a carcinogen when overused by ulcer patients.

8 posted on 11/24/2001 1:50:03 AM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
You are right about the chemical invasion. I look at food labels, and I have no idea what half the stuff even is! I also think you're right about the maturation of young girls. I am constantly mistaking teenagers with 20-year olds.
9 posted on 11/24/2001 3:15:00 AM PST by Fraulein
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To: AgThorn
Thank you and may our Lord Yeshua bless you and shine His face upon the baby in the womb.

How many more Oh Lord, how many more before You come to their aid and avenge them?

Alas

10 posted on 11/24/2001 3:40:27 AM PST by Alas
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To: *Abortion_list; pro-life
?
11 posted on 11/24/2001 3:44:17 AM PST by Khepera
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To: nopardons
I had a bi-lateral mastectomy last year after repeated scares with lumps ,along with one REAL instance of breast cancer. My mother died from breast cancer. I have lost aunts to it. My uncle had one breast removed as a result of breast cancer.NOT ONE of the afore mentioned had an abortion.I think that theory is total garbage.I am 1000% pro life.But cannot buy the abortion theory that you are predisposed to cancer if you have had one. Rather I am insulted by that.
12 posted on 11/24/2001 5:17:17 AM PST by Disgusted in Texas
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To: *Christian_list; *Christian persecutio; Weirdad; cyn; Libertarianize the GOP; STARWISE...
Below information from About Breast Cancer web site.
_________________________________________________________

Abortion/Breast Cancer Logo

Suggested Reading
Suggested Reading:Breast Cancer: Its Link to Abortion and the Birth Control Pill
Author: Chris Kahlenborn, M.D.
Publisher: One More Soul  www.OMSoul.com (1-800-307-7685)

The Coalition on Abortion/Breast Cancer is not in a position to certify 
the accuracy of all of the data presented in this book.
Women have the right to know that there are now 27 out of 34 worldwide studies (from among those 13 out of 14 were American studies) which show a link between induced abortion and breast cancer, seventeen of which are statistically significant, and most of which have been done by abortion supporters. The first study was published in an English publication in 1957 and focused on Japanese women. It showed a 2.6 or 160% increased risk of breast cancer among women who had had an induced abortion. [Segi et al. (1957) GANN 48 (Suppl.):1-63]

Abortion is an "elective surgical procedure and a woman’s exposure to the hormones of early pregnancy -- if it is interrupted -- is so great, that just one interrupted pregnancy is enough to make a significant difference in her risk" (Professor Joel Brind, President, Breast Cancer Prevention Institute, Endeavour Forum Public Meeting, August 24, 1999, Malvern, Victoria, Australia).

The American Cancer Society has stated in its fact sheet that abortion "may be associated with increased breast cancer risk" {American Cancer Society, Cancer Facts & Figures --1996, at 12 (1996)}. (An employee of the American Cancer Society with the Office of Corporation Counsel has asked us to remove the Society's 1996 statement from our web site. We have contacted the Society and asked them to inform us of the legal basis for their request, if any.)

Dr. Janet Daling, an abortion supporter, and her colleagues at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center were commissioned by the National Cancer Institute to do a study on the abortion-breast cancer link. The study found that, "among women who had been pregnant at least once, the risk of breast cancer in those who had experienced an induced abortion was 50% higher than among other women." It was also reported that women under the age of 18 or over the age of 29 who obtained induced abortions had more than a twofold increase in risk. Women with a family history of breast cancer who procured an abortion were reported to have statistically significant risk increases of 80 percent. Teenagers under age 18 with a family history breast cancer who procured abortions had an incalculably high risk increase.

Because American women already face a lifetime risk of developing breast cancer of about 12 percent, the increased risk from a single induced abortion is comparable to the risk of lung cancer from long-term heavy smoking. However, not all women who have had abortions will get breast cancer, and not all women who have breast cancer have had abortions.

There is one more way in which abortion increases the risk of breast cancer. Medical experts universally agree that it is healthier for a married woman not to postpone her first full-term pregnancy. One Harvard study reported that each year that a woman postpones her first full-term pregnancy increases her breast cancer risk by 3.5%. [Dr. Brian MacMahon, Dr. Dimitrios Trichopoulos, et al., “Age at any Birth and Breast Cancer Risk,” International Journal of Cancer, 1983;31:701704]. An abortion causes a woman to forego the benefit of increased protection from breast cancer resulting from an earlier first full-term pregnancy. World Health Organization scientists in 1970 confirmed this saying that, "It is estimated that women having their first child when aged under 18 years have only about one-third the breast cancer risk of those whose first birth is delayed until the age of 35 years or more." (MacMahon B, et al. Bull Wld Health Org, 1970; 43-209-21).

 


13 posted on 11/24/2001 10:01:05 AM PST by AgThorn
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To: STARWISE
Your posts #5 and #7 would pretty much lead anyone to the conclusion that chemicals introduced into our bodies over the last 50 years have resulted in the high incidence of cancer, and shows that abortions have nothing to do with it. Any reasonable person can determine that cancer is so widespread at least partly because of ingredients in processed and preserved foods.
14 posted on 11/24/2001 10:07:24 AM PST by FreeTally
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To: nopardons
I believe that the operative phrase here is "significantly increased risk". The link between abortion and breast cancer cannot exclude other carcinogens or agents, including genetics, any more than all lung cancer can be blamed on tobacco smoke, or the statement made that all smokers will get cancer.

In assessing risk, theoretically, common factors are sought between persons exhibiting a condition, then research done to find how those common factors may (or may not) impact risk.

If there exists a significant number of women who have had abortions, and those abortions caused an unnatural change in stem cell biochemistry, with biochemical differences between miscarriages and induced abortions, and that change in biochemistry can be linked to tumor development, then causality may be established.

There is no guarantee that having an abortion will cause cancer, any more than that not having an abortion will guarantee that a woman will not contract breast cancer, only the indication that the cell changes brought about by induced alterations of biochemistry (via abortion) increase the risk of contracting breast cancer.

If other risk factors are present as well, this only serves as an indicator of probability in a large population that any individual will be more likely (than someone who does not have these risk factors) to contract the disease.

Where this type of assesment becomes scary, aside from the potential for bogus, agenda driven research and enriching trial lawyers, is when you seek insurance and your medical records (and previous generation's medical records) are there on the computer for all to see. Even with (especially with?)socialized medicine, you become a bad medical investment, and do not receive coverage or care.

In this case, however, the agenda bias is against finding a link, socially, medically, in liability terms, and from the research folks who find aborted babies a convenient source of stem cells and other tissue on which to conduct research.

15 posted on 11/24/2001 10:33:19 AM PST by Smokin' Joe
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To: Disgusted in Texas
Anecdotal evidence does not a scientific case make.Sounds like cancer runs in your family.You ought to read the scientific evidence that purports to link,don't rely on the way you FEEL about it.
16 posted on 11/24/2001 11:17:09 AM PST by kennyo
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To: Disgusted in Texas
How can you be insulted by a scientific fact?
17 posted on 11/24/2001 11:58:45 AM PST by STARWISE
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To: FreeTally
My post also talks about unnaturally ending a pregnancy, creating an imbalance in the hormones which is documented as a risk.
18 posted on 11/24/2001 12:02:04 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: Disgusted in Texas
Gravity is real. Mayor Marion Barry once said "Even gravity is against the black man; it just keeps him down".

Now, if there's a connection between abortion and breast cancer that does not mean there is not also a connection between hereditary and breast cancer. Why you should be "insulted" by scientific determined probable causalities is beyond me. Unless you are like Mayor Barry.

19 posted on 11/24/2001 12:18:26 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: AgThorn
I have been aware of this for years- it's been known, but "just not mentioned..."
20 posted on 11/24/2001 12:18:51 PM PST by backhoe
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To: AgThorn
The hand on the coin with 'liberty' very powerful
Abortion = Brest cancer
21 posted on 11/24/2001 12:26:21 PM PST by Free_at_last_-2001
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To: nopardons
Abortions are not the "WHOLE PIE" There are plenty of reasons why women die from breast cancer, Abortion is just ONE OF THEM, BUBBA. Think out of the box!

YOU are the one giving the all or nothing view, WAKE UP!

22 posted on 11/24/2001 12:31:51 PM PST by chicagolady
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To: chicagolady
I'm not a " BUBBA " , dear, and articles such as this one, makes it seem as though most women , who get / die frm breast cancer have had abortions. Think about what that added stigma does to women who haven't ever had an abortion. It's people, like YOU, who will assume the worst, and THAT is highly objectionalble !

This is akin to a smear tactic. Why don't YOU get off your high horse, dear, and look to the beam in your own eye ?

23 posted on 11/24/2001 1:39:02 PM PST by nopardons
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To: STARWISE
Little girls are reaching puberty earlier, today ( and it has been a steady rise, for more than 100 years! ) , because they are better fed, with more nutricious food , than was once the case. In several English studies, it has now been found that the lower classes and the aristocracy now show little physical differences. This was NOT always the case. In point of fact, as little as 100 years ago, it was quite easy to tell which people belonged to what socio-economic class, based solely on their height.

In the 19th century, most girls reached meniarchy at 16. By the 1920's, that had fallen to 13 or 14. This age held fast until the later part of the 20th century.

I am sorry that you lost your father at such a young age. If you don't know, ulcers are caused by a virus, and no, alcohol doesn't help . Up until very recently, ulcers, reflux, and hyateal hernias were misdiagnosed, mistreaed, and ALL can ( and usually DO ! ) lead to cancer and death; when untreated.

Unfortunately, I do NOT have to do anymore " studying " about cancers. My family has been riddled with it for many generations. None of them had abortions, and none of them ate poor diets,imbibed alcohol very much, and one ONE person smoked tobacco. Oh, and yes, this sad littany includes a child , and young adults .

24 posted on 11/24/2001 2:11:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: chicagolady
First of all .. I'm not a Bubba .. and secondly, I most definitely am not giving an all or nothing view, as evidenced by my posts. Sorry you've decided to be so hostile and nasty. Happy Holidays!
25 posted on 11/24/2001 2:13:39 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: Disgusted in Texas
I am so sorry that you have gone through this, and that your family members have also suffered so. I, likewise come from a family where breast cancer ( as well as other cancers ) are all to previlent. Saying that abortion is linked to this, gives some people the ammunintion to blame ALL breast cancer sufferers of having an abortion, out of hand, and restigmatizes the disease. That is what I find so appaling.

They HAVE done so many studies, which conclusively PROVE that there IS a genetic link, in families, to a predispusition to getting cancer. To ignore this, is not only risky, it is often fatal . We have , thankfully , come to a point, where the patient is no longer treated as a lepper, people no loger whisper and say " THE BIG C " , but talk openly about , and give support to those who have cancer and their families. That is a HUGE step away from the way is used to be, as short a time ago, as in the 1960's.

The prolife zealots , like all fanatics ( and NO, I am NOT oe who is in favor of mass abortion, and consider PBA infanticide ) will latch onto this article, and incorrectly assume that those unfortunate breast cancer patients have had at least oe abortion. Just look at the majority of replies on this thread !

These abortions lead to breast cancer articles have been posted on FR for YEARS ! This is NOT " new " news. Everytime one of these threads pop up, it's ALWAYS the same thing , and I, for one, am sick of it !

26 posted on 11/24/2001 2:25:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"Little girls are reaching puberty earlier, today ( and it has been a steady rise, for more than 100 years! ) , because they are better fed, with more nutritious food , than was once the case."

I don't agree with this statement at all .. I don't believe being "better fed" causes earlier menses, and therefore more estrogen activity in the body, which definitely is a link to cancers. So we disagree .. and I'm not calling you names or insulting you personally ... a sign of defensiveness on your part. As for ulcers .. SOME ulcers are caused by a virus .. not all. My Dear Dad may have gotten the ulcers from the alcohol to begin with, and I have relatives with ulcers who were not helped when prescribed antibiotics for their ulcers.

If, as you say, your family's been riddled by cancers, I find it hard to believe that you are so rigid and closedminded in your views. I would think you would be even more motivated to be open to possible links for prevention reasons for you and your family. What's most distressing is your nastiness and condescending attitude ... very pathetic. So much for kindess and unity in America ... so sad that our Freeper community has to be contaminated by cynical people. I continue to be grateful for the rest of the Freepers and Jim Robinson. Hope you can learn to disagree without being disagreeable in the future.

27 posted on 11/24/2001 2:43:22 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: chicagolady
PLEASE excuse my post to you .. I hit the wrong button .. egg on my face here ;-(
28 posted on 11/24/2001 2:46:30 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: STARWISE
You only see what you want to see. Reading into m posts, and imbuing them with your own assumptions, is far nastier than anything I have EVER poster. Want to see " pathetic " ? Go look in a mirror. You attack by being overtly "sweet", condescending, and " Holier than thou ", dear. That is the height of hypocracy, and I didn't start this " attack ", you did. Go read your original post to me. : )

Antibiotics alone won't cure ulcers. It is only in conjunction with Tagamet, Prilosec, the new Prilosec pill which helps to regrow the linings of the stomach and espophigus ( sp ? ) , etc. that cures ulcers. It may have been the alcohol, which did your father in, yes. I am sorry. He was ill before there were better treatments.

" Ridgid " ? That's projection, dear.

29 posted on 11/24/2001 2:53:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Hehehe ... you're hopeless. Have a good day.
30 posted on 11/24/2001 2:55:27 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: AgThorn
Yuck! Gee thanks, I WAS eating...was.

Oh, breast and prostate cancer have a common source.

It's not abortion.

31 posted on 11/24/2001 3:20:26 PM PST by Archaeus
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To: STARWISE
LOL, and you are far worse. Have a loveky evening. : - )
32 posted on 11/24/2001 4:04:08 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Smokin' Joe
I agree, Joe ... the agenda of the far left is to fight AGAINST showing any link so they can continue to push for the "right" to KILL A BABY. I guess that's why they get so intractable and defensive and refuse to even consider the evidence ... even to ignoring the health risks to the potential mother. It makes me ill to think of all the precious little ones who are murdered and discarded. God Bless the Innocents.
33 posted on 11/24/2001 5:22:46 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: AgThorn
Thank you, AgThorn, for raising this issue again. We should never let it die. I have signed the petition, and pray for the Little Ones.
34 posted on 11/24/2001 5:23:58 PM PST by STARWISE
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To: AgThorn; Saundra Duffy
Paging Saundra Duffy - care to comment?
36 posted on 11/26/2001 8:00:13 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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