A few of us began to discuss potential links between Oklahoma City and the terrorists attacks of Sept. 11 on this thread when jra asked that the photos of Mohammed Atta and John Doe #2 be posted side by side like this:
4 posted on 10/24/01 10:33 PM Central by Nick Danger
(Nick, I think I'll leave the one of the Tourist Guy and John Doe #2 on that other thread....LOL)
If you don't mind, Pericles, I'll bring some of the other information over here, FWIW:
One story is particularly poignant. Daina Bradley lost a leg in the April 19 blast, and her
mother and two children were killed. She recalls looking out the plate-glass window of the
Social Security office a few minutes before the explosion and seeing a yellow Ryder pull
into the driveway. That is where the terrorists left the truck. According to Bradley, it was
there for three to five minutes. Then she saw a side view of an olive-skinned white man
leaving the passenger side of the Ryder truck. He was wearing a dark blue jacket and a
baseball cap. She does not believe that person, who left the truck and walked quickly away
from the federal building, was McVeigh. After that, all she recalled was electricity running
through her body and a sensation of falling into rocks. Prosecutors contend that Bradley is
a trauma victim and therefore her account is not reliable.
Emphasis mine
Link to Gerald Oosners page Link
33 posted on 10/24/01 11:12 PM Central by eddie willers
Grand Jury Charges Two With Bombing
"I think any time the government has to give two
{potential} co-defendants a pretty good deal, there
are weaknesses in the case," Jones told reporters.
He quickly sought to cloud the prosecution's
contentions by issuing a statement about a
government informant who late last year warned
federal authorities of a developing bomb plot
against a federal building in a midwestern city.
According to Jones, the informant described the
orchestrators of the plot as a "combination of
American citizens and, he thought, either Latin
Americans or Arabs.
The individuals were identified by Arabic names."
Jones said the informant also talked of traveling to
Kingman, Ariz.
40 posted on 10/24/01 11:33 PM Central by Irma
Mohammed Atta
He is a possible Egyptian national.
He used the birthday Sept. 1, 1968.
Aliases include: Mehan Atta; Mohammad El Amir; Muhammad Atta; Mohamed
El Sayed; Mohamed Elllsayed; Muhammad Muhammad Al Amir Awag Al
Sayyid Atta; Muhammad Muhammad Al-Amir Awad Al Sayad.
Identified by the FBI as the man who piloted the first plane to crash into the
World Trade Center, Atta is said to have met early this year with the head of
the Iraqi intelligence service, a report Iraq denies.
Atta, who had an Egyptian driver's license, is also reported to have met with
several Islamic extremists at a hotel at the Spanish beach resort Salou.
At times he used the name Mohamed El-Amir, as he did for eight years while
an electrical engineering student at the Technical University in Hamburg,
Germany, where he had ties to an Islamic group that planned attacks on
American targets, and lived with Marwan Al-Shehhi, a cousin who also
appears on the FBI's hijacker list.
The two men are believed to have arrived in the U.S. in May. Atta lived in
Venice, Coral Springs, and Hollywood, Fla., where he may have used public
computers at two libraries, and where he and Al-Shehhi were spotted
partying the Friday before Sept. 11, playing video games and drinking.
Both men trained as pilots at Huffman Aviation in Venice, where they lived
together, and practiced on Boeing 727 flight simulators at SimCenter in
Opalacka, Fla.
Based on an eyewitness identification, investigators believe Atta was one
of a group of five men holed up in the Valencia Hotel in Laurel, Md., in
August and September, driving an older model Toyota Corolla with California
license plates.
Video surveillance photos of the airport in Portland, Me., show Atta and
Abdulaziz Alomari rushing to make a flight from Maine to Boston early on
the morning of the hijackings.
Source
73 posted on 10/25/01 12:25 PM Central by Irma
Report: Relief pilot ordered EgyptAir co-pilot out of seat
WASHINGTON -- The relief co-pilot suspected of
putting EgyptAir Flight 990 into a fatal dive reportedly
used his seniority to order the plane's co-pilot out of his
seat shortly before the crash. Gameel el-Batouty "pull(ed)
rank" on the younger co-pilot, investigators told the New
York Times.
The conversation between the more senior aviator
el-Batouty, 59, and co-pilot Adel Anwar, 36, was in
Arabic. Three U.S. officials who described it told the
newspaper they were relying on translations and the tone
of voice.
They would not give specific wording of the conversation,
which was recorded on the plane's cockpit voice recorder
before the plane plunged into the ocean off
Nantucket Island, Massachusetts, killing all 217 people
aboard.
"He was using his stature," said one official, who
described el-Batouty as being "very assertive." Another
U.S. official told the Times that "very insistent" was a
better description than "assertive."
Remember all the reports of Middle-Easterners in jump seats? And Atta may have been Egyptian?
I'd never seen the side-by-side of Atta and John Doe #2 before.