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Harry Potter: Witchcraft Repackaged (Who's Behind Harry Potter?)
Jeremiah Films ^ | October 2001 | Pat and Carol Matriciana

Posted on 12/12/2001 7:47:07 PM PST by jedediah smith

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To: jedediah smith
Seems like it's time to revisit The Hammer of Witches compiled by two Dominican friars and approved by Pope Innocent VIII.

Question #18 may be effective in answering the unbelievers.


MALLEUS MALEFICARUM

[THE HAMMER OF WITCHES]


THE FIRST PART

THE FIRST PART TREATING OF THE THREE NECESSARY CONCOMITANTS OF WITCHCRAFT, WHICH ARE THE DEVIL, A WITCH, AND THE PERMISSION OF ALMIGHTY GOD

Question I..........Whether the Belief that there are such Beings as Witches is so Essential a Part of the Catholic Faith that Obstinacy to maintain the Opposite Opinion manifestly savours of Heresy.


Question II..........If it be in Accordance with the Catholic Faith to maintain that in Order to bring about some Effect of Magic, the Devil must intimately co-operate with the Witch, or whether one without the other, that is to say, the Devil without the Witch, or conversely, could produce such an Effect.
Question III..........Whether Children can be Generated by Incubi and Succubi. Question IV..........By which Devils are the Operations of Incubus and Succubus Practised?
Question V..........What is the Source of the Increase of Works of Witchcraft? Whence comes it that the Practice of Witchcraft hath so notably increased? Question VI..........Concerning Witches who copulate with Devils. Why is it that Women are chiefly addicted to Evil superstitions? Question VII..........Whether Witches can Sway the Minds of Men to Love or Hatred.
Question VIII..........Whether Witches can Hebetate the Powers of Generation or Obstruct the Venereal Act.
Question IX..........Whether Witches may work some Prestidigatory Illusion so that the Male Organ appears to be entirely removed and separate from the Body.
Question X..........Whether Witches can by some Glamour Change Men into Beasts.
Question XI..........That Witches who are Midwives in Various Ways Kill the Child Conceived in the Womb, and Procure an Abortion; or if they do not this Offer New-born Children to Devils.
Question XII..........Whether the Permission of Almighty God is an Accompaniment of Witchcraft.
Question XIII..........Herein is set forth the Question, concerning the Two Divine Permissions which God justly allows, namely, that the Devil, the Author or all Evil, should Sin, and that our First Parents should Fall, from which Origins the Works of Witches are justly suffered to take place.
Solutions of the Arguments.

Question XIV..........The Enormity of Witches is Considered, and it is shown that the Whole Matter should be rightly Set Forth and Declared.
Question XV..........It is Shown that, on Account of the Sins of Witches, the Innocent are often Bewitched, yea, Sometimes even for their Own Sins.
Question XVI..........The Foregoing Truths are Set out in Particular, this by a Comparison of the Works of Witches with Other Baleful Superstitions.
Question XVII..........A Comparison of their Crimes under Fourteen Heads, with the Sins of the Devils of all and every Kind.
Question XVIII..........Here follows the Method of Preaching against and Controverting Five Arguments of Laymen and Lewd Folk, which seem to be Variously Approved, that God does not Allow so Great Power to the Devil and Witches as is involved in the Performance of such Mighty Works of Witchcraft.

101 posted on 12/12/2001 9:45:12 PM PST by henbane
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To: Bella_Bru
*ping
102 posted on 12/12/2001 9:47:08 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Doctor Doom
Ah - another aficionado of The Devil's Dictionary!

My favorite:

HYPOCRITE, n. One who, professing virtues that he does not respect, secures the advantage of seeming to be what he depises.

103 posted on 12/12/2001 9:49:31 PM PST by strela
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To: germanshepherd
Ridicule me if you will, but I am firmly convinced that the Bible is our sufficient guide to life.

That being said, I have to ask...do you feel that people are reading the Harry Potter series as a guide to life? Or are they reading it simply because it's something to read? Or is it a mixed bag, some reading it for entertainment, and some reading it as a guide to life?

If you stand against the novels because some may be reading it as a guide to life, then surely, you must stand against any sort of self-help book that isn't the Bible, after all, people don't read those for entertainment.

Do you stand against Stephen King's novels or the writings of Dean Koontz?

I read The Once and Future King years ago. Arthur is transformed by Merlin (a wizard living backwards in time) to different types of animals, in order to gain experience in different situations. There was a lot of magic in this book, but it didn't lead me into witchcraft.

As I said to someone in freepmail...it's a book, for Pete's sake. It's an adventure story. If it were "Harry Potter's Guide to Witchcraft for the Complete Idiot (includes chalk for your pentagrams!)," then I might be concerned.

104 posted on 12/12/2001 9:49:34 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: strela
You know where the Devil's Dictionary will lead us.

My favorite

CONSERVATIVE, n. A statesman who is enamored of existing evils, as distinguished from the Liberal, who wishes to replace them with others.. :)

105 posted on 12/12/2001 9:56:03 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: henbane
No need to go to this much trouble to determine just who is a witch and who isn't. For your edification:

CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've found a witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! A witch! We've got a witch! A witch! A witch! Burn her! Burn her!
VILLAGER #1:
We have found a witch. May we burn her?
CROWD:
Burn her! Burn! Burn her! Burn her!
BEDEVERE:
How do you know she is a witch?
VILLAGER #2:
She looks like one.
CROWD:
Right! Yeah! Yeah!
BEDEVERE:
Bring her forward.
WITCH:
I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
BEDEVERE:
Uh, but you are dressed as one.
WITCH:
They dressed me up like this.
CROWD:
Augh, we didn't! We didn't...
WITCH:
And this isn't my nose. It's a false one.
BEDEVERE:
Well?
VILLAGER #1:
Well, we did do the nose.
BEDEVERE:
The nose?
VILLAGER #1:
And the hat, but she is a witch!
VILLAGER #2:
Yeah!
CROWD:
We burn her! Right! Yeaaah! Yeaah!
BEDEVERE:
Did you dress her up like this?
VILLAGER #1:
No!
VILLAGER #2 and 3:
No. No.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes.
VILLAGER #2:
Yes.
VILLAGER #1:
Yes. Yeah, a bit.
VILLAGER #3:
A bit.
VILLAGER #1:
She has got a wart.
BEDEVERE:
What makes you think she is a witch?
VILLAGER #3:
Well, she turned me into a newt.
BEDEVERE:
A newt?
VILLAGER #3:
I got better.
VILLAGER #2:
Burn her anyway!

106 posted on 12/12/2001 9:56:07 PM PST by strela
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To: Doctor Doom
You know where the Devil's Dictionary will lead us.

Sure me. It usually leads to me staying up all night to read it again, then being grumpy and surly the next day from lack of sleep ;)

107 posted on 12/12/2001 9:57:32 PM PST by strela
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To: Doctor Doom
EN=>this crowd can get nasty at times.

Doc D=>You have no idea.

my response:

"For God hath not given us a spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." II Timothy 1:7

Have fun playing y'all! catch up with you tomorrow...

108 posted on 12/12/2001 9:57:33 PM PST by ~EagleNebula~
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To: strela
Sure me.

Its started already - this should be "Sure do." ;)

109 posted on 12/12/2001 9:59:19 PM PST by strela
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To: strela
Grumpy and surly? Ambrose would be proud.

As the great WC said, "Start each day with a smile, so you can get it over with."

(Hmmmm...someone left my lunch uncorked.)

110 posted on 12/12/2001 10:02:40 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: jedediah smith
ping!!!
111 posted on 12/12/2001 10:04:33 PM PST by bjcintennessee
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To: germanshepherd
The staff to serpent trick is really a hoot ! The magician puts a huge snake to sleep ( it's like rubbing the belly of an aligator, who then goes to sleep ) , the snake become rigid, and the magician use it as a staff. Then, he rubs the head of the snake ( which is used as the handle ) , and the snake wakes up. GOD had NOTHING to do with Moses's use if this same trick, which he leared how to do, whilst a boy growing up in the palace. except that GOD told him to do it. Moses's snake ate the others snakes, as snakes are wont to do.

Witchcraft is NOT dear to me; however , through a post grad course in Comparative Religions ( hey, don't blame me for the name of the course ) and outside readings , I know enough about it, to tell you that this entire article is hogwash , you believe in fairy tales as reality, and if the Bible is the ONLY thing upon which you base your way of life, then WHY are you on line, and not out there doing what it says you are to do, in the Bible ? Do you follow the OT and the NT, or just the NT ? If both, then do you eat pork, shrimp, and lobster ? Do you, in other words do ALL that is commanded in Deuteronomy, and other laws books?

You did NOT read the entire article, yet, you have decided that the article is correct and you have ageed with it. The atircle plainly states that THE ROYALS IF ENGLAND WORSHIP SATAN, AND THE ENGLAND IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HOTBED OF WWITCHCRAFT . FYI ... the monarch of England, in this case, Queen Elizabeth II , is THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND! The Church of England is NOT a SATANTIC, DEVIL WORSHIPPING religion !

And you wonder WHY people here , think that you have a problem with gullibility ?

112 posted on 12/12/2001 10:05:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Oh, no, no, no , please, no, no ... holding up a cross, a bunch of garlic, getting my silver bulletts loaded into my gun, looking for some holy water, a stake, a hammer ; eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeek ! Have I forgottenh anything ? : - )
113 posted on 12/12/2001 10:12:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You're making an uncharacteristic amount of sense. :)
114 posted on 12/12/2001 10:14:25 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Tennessee_Bob
I could be wrong, but it seemed to me that the person to whose post I was responding when I said the Bible is our sufficient guide to life, was a student of witchcraft, and turning to it as a guide to life, and that is what impelled the statement. I do not know if people reading the Potter books are using them as a guide to life. I do know that what we are reading, we are taking into our thinking. And I know for a fact that we need to be careful about what we take into our thinking, because that determines our experience. I think it's obvious that reading books friendly witchcraft (albeit perhaps not true to "real" witchcraft) is going to make the reader more friendly and open to witchcraft. Even (sometimes especially) if it is just for entertainment.

No,I do not stand against non-Bible self-help books. Of course it depends on the book as to whether or not I'd read it. I'm very particular about my reading material, but I'm not the public censor. Stephen King's novels? I've never been attracted to them. Too much pure horror. Dean Koontz' novels? I used to be an addicted fan of them. Wow, that man can really tell a story, and what an imagination. Truth be told, I love his novels. (The movies they've made from them just haven't measured up.) I stopped reading them though. Just other more important things to do.

I read The Once and Future King years ago. Arthur is transformed by Merlin (a wizard living backwards in time) to different types of animals, in order to gain experience in different situations. There was a lot of magic in this book, but it didn't lead me into witchcraft.
Haven't read it. But it sounds like a combo of fantasy and science fiction. My objection to Harry Potter is that it doesn't just have some elements of witchcraft in it as literary vehicles, as most fairy tales do. It is 100% witchcraft through and through, without any break from it. It just creeped me out, and I trust my intuitions.

115 posted on 12/12/2001 10:15:30 PM PST by germanshepherd
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To: germanshepherd
The reference to the King James Version of the Bible, and to those who apparently believe that St. Paul (and the author of Duteronomy) wrote in Elizabethan English, has to do with the Bible's condemnation of 'witchcraft'. There is no such word in anchient Hebrew, or in Koinic Greek. The words and phrases which the Committee that translated the Bible for King James I, in the first decade of the 17th Century rendered as 'witch' and 'witchcraft' can be translated alternately as 'poisoners', 'woman with a familiar spirit' (what we would call a medium or channeler today), 'wise man', and so on. The blanket condemnation of 'witchcraft' was as much an artifact of the language used in translation as it was a condemnation of a coherent set of beliefs and practices.
116 posted on 12/12/2001 10:24:45 PM PST by VietVet
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To: nopardons
Paragraph 1. I guess we'll have to disagree about Moses. I'm sure you have similar explanations for all of the other things he did, including parting the sea.

Paragraph 2. Well, your point is well taken about why I'm on line instead of studying. I've been asking myself the same question for about a half hour now. Yes I eat pork etc. How about yourself?

Paragraph 3. I think I already apologized for not reading the whole article before speaking out about it. I still agree with what I read, which was a critique of the movie. There's no need to yell about it.

Paragraph 4. No, -- I didn't wonder why people thought I had a problem with gullibility. I wondered why people couldn't be civil in their comments about it.

And now I need to get some sleep. Good night.

117 posted on 12/12/2001 10:30:14 PM PST by germanshepherd
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To: henbane
If witchcraft only involves the Devil, the witches and the tacit permission of God (Who allows us to choose Evil so that we have a truely Free Will), then the magic talked about in the Harry Potter books cannot be witchcraft, because the Devil is no-where present. Indeed, worship is no-where present in those books, that I know (and I certainly have not wasted my time reading the entire series of what are, after all, childrens' books), which rules out both Satanic Witchcraft and neo-pagan Wicca. What is taught at Hoggwarts seems to be sorcery, magic as the science of manipulating non-material forces by both lawful algorythms (spells and potions) and even more by force of psychic talents.
118 posted on 12/12/2001 10:35:51 PM PST by VietVet
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To: Doctor Doom
No, dear, I ALWAYS make a lot of snese. You just don't ALWAYS agree with me. LOL : - )
119 posted on 12/12/2001 10:41:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Doctor Doom
No, dear, I ALWAYS make a lot of good sense. You just don't ALWAYS agree with me. LOL : - )
120 posted on 12/12/2001 10:41:27 PM PST by nopardons
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To: VietVet
Here are a few I found in my Strong's Dictionary (gives original Hebrew and Greek meanings of the words used in KJV translation). (Old Testament) to WHISPER (a spell), ie to INCHANT or practice magic. MAGIC. DIVINATION, ORACLE. In the New Testament, PHARMAKEIA is the original Greek word, rendered "witchcraft" in KJV. It means MEDICATION ("pharmacy") and by extension MAGIC (lit or fig).

If you simply take all the things Pharoah's magicians did in trying to emulate the works of Moses, I think it's pretty clear that we're talking about the same thing, translations notwithstanding.

121 posted on 12/12/2001 10:42:19 PM PST by germanshepherd
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To: germanshepherd
OK, now I'm really signing off and going to bed. Good night everybody.
122 posted on 12/12/2001 10:43:28 PM PST by germanshepherd
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To: germanshepherd
You are a TOTAL, COMCPLETE and UTTER idiot ! I am NOT a " student of witchcraft ". nor do I use it to live my life by it ! Just WHERE, on GOD's good, green earth, did YOU get THAT garbage , in ANY of my posts ? WHERE ? CCP it, so All of us can see exactly WHERE I typed such a thing. Or, is oy, yet once again, that you did NOT read ALL of my replies, but decided, for yourself, what I had said ? You know, like you did NOT read the entire article ?

You know what ? Go read your Bible, pray, do NOT do anything at all else; ESPECIALLY , do NOT come onto a FR thread, ignore the artile, put words into other people's mnouths, and then accuse them of things they did NOT say !

You whinged and whined about people being " insulting " and yet, YOU have the nerve to break one of the 10 Commandments ( THOU SHALLT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS ! ) , all the while you talk about Harry Potter being " FULL OF WITCHCRAft ', and you haven't a clue what " witchcraft " is ! Harry Potter's witchcraft is abut on the same level as the witch in Hansel & Grettel, Cinderella, ALL of the Aurthurian legends, and " THE LORD OF THE RINGS " !

You are a bloody hypocrite, a liar, ill educated, and a blasphemer !

123 posted on 12/12/2001 10:54:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: germanshepherd
You don't know the Bible, nearly as well as you suppose you do. Go back and read the ENTIRE scriptures about Moses. I didn't say anything about the parting of the Red Sea, nor any of the plagues. But, as ever, YOU just keep puting words in my mouth. FDR SHAME.

I'm not the one who claims to be living my life EXACTLY to the letter of EVERY law in the Bible, so ot is irrelevant as to whether or not I eat pork; but, yes, I like bacon, and suasages , and BBQ ribs. : - )

As ti the rest, YOU have now become THE head insult person here, newbie. Think TWICE before you start whinging again; hypocrite.

124 posted on 12/12/2001 11:01:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
No no. Take off the kid gloves. Let him really have it, girl.
125 posted on 12/12/2001 11:02:16 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Doctor Doom
LOL , Facts and valid arguments, I'll respect ; unsubstanciated garbage lies, moronic prose, specious insults, fallacious replies, and abject stupidity, I shall NOT let stand. : - )
126 posted on 12/12/2001 11:12:21 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Miss Mercy Miller
Harry Potter is only dangerous to those who read him.

Too bad you can't just read the books and decide for yourself. If you did you'd realize how silly your comment was. Instead you let someone else decide for you. Do you always let other people dictate what you read and think?

127 posted on 12/12/2001 11:12:49 PM PST by JMJ333
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To: VietVet
Ah you are a scholar and a gentleman.

I hadn't bothered trying to explain what should have been an obvious oxymoron but you handled it marvelously. Thanks ever so

128 posted on 12/12/2001 11:30:11 PM PST by jnarcus
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To: germanshepherd
Isn't this mocking and scoffing great? When you hear this you know that you are doing something right! Don't let it get you down! Consider the source and the amount of intellect that it takes for someone to revert childish name calling. Some people will strongly defend their right to remain uneducated and uniformed.
MCD
129 posted on 12/12/2001 11:44:44 PM PST by MSCASEY
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To: germanshepherd
Since when are you a Greek scholar? The pharmokeia to which you refer involves as you said medication i.e. medicines to cure illness by what sense does that come to mean witchcraft? The context and meaning don't fit your definition. Moreover words change meanings overtime I think you need to spend time with more than just the Bible and your copy of Strong's ( here's one for you study the meaning of the word "let")
130 posted on 12/12/2001 11:46:05 PM PST by jnarcus
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To: ~EagleNebula~
...went an sturred yer up a defil's nest--havent'jewl?
131 posted on 12/13/2001 12:51:05 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: strela
I have a good friend, a devout Christian 72 years of age, named Potter.

Shall I burn him at the stake?

132 posted on 12/13/2001 3:23:07 AM PST by Illbay
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To: germanshepherd
I agree. Debating is good. Being rude in debate is not.

Woah, there, Jackson! One of the first things out of your mouth on this thread was that you were up for an old-fashioned book-burning, and now you're supposed to be the champion of reasoned debate? No sale.

The rest of us learned as children that witches and goblins and the rest AREN'T REAL. People DREAMED THEM UP. Apparently you either missed the memo, or--more likely--your parents withheld it from you, but either way you are no less valid an object of ridicule than if you'd come on here to complain earnestly that the tooth fairy had overlooked the bicuspid you placed under your pillow last night.

133 posted on 12/13/2001 4:59:51 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Central Scrutiniser
"Through Harry Potter books and audios, children as young as kindergarten age are being introduced to human sacrifice, the sucking of blood from dead animals, and possession by spirit beings.

What's the big deal, I was introduced to human sacrifice and blood sucking in pre-school, but then again, I was raised Catholic..."

Must have been a couple of Catholics who stabbed a 12 yr. old girl thru the eyes and cut out her heart about 5 miles down the road from me some 10-12 yrs. ago. Of course, that was before Harry Potter was around.

Funny thing (ha ha) was, about the same time a 14 yr. old girl got the same 'treatment' about 250 miles away where my Mother lived. Must have been Catholics again.

The 16-17 yr. old boys who did the ritual near my Mother's home are loose now, all mentally fixed up. No worry there, huh? The ones near us never got caught that we know of, because the Circuit Judge put a Gag Order on the whole thing.

Yep, it's all just harmless Kids Fantasy.

134 posted on 12/13/2001 5:09:21 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: germanshepherd
"I think it's obvious that reading books friendly witchcraft (albeit perhaps not true to "real" witchcraft) is going to make the reader more friendly and open to witchcraft. Even (sometimes especially) if it is just for entertainment."

Well stated.

135 posted on 12/13/2001 5:13:51 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: jedediah smith
Fired up a nest of 'em, didntcha? :-)
136 posted on 12/13/2001 5:19:13 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: jedediah smith
I watched her interview on Hagee. She is correct. Although she wasn't able to cover all she could have in the interview (time constraints?), she got some major points brought up. Thanks for the post. No one is without excuse.
137 posted on 12/13/2001 5:26:33 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: VietVet; John H K
I never knew that the nuttier of the witchcraft-obsessed types ACTUALLY BELIEVE that witchcraft WORKS..that is, that you REALLY can curse people and do magic with the power of Satan. Of course, believing that it actually works is probably the best advertisement for Satanic witchcraft there is.

If witchcraft only involves the Devil, the witches and the tacit permission of God (Who allows us to choose Evil so that we have a truely Free Will), then the magic talked about in the Harry Potter books cannot be witchcraft, because the Devil is no-where present. Indeed, worship is no-where present in those books, that I know (and I certainly have not wasted my time reading the entire series of what are, after all, childrens' books), which rules out both Satanic Witchcraft and neo-pagan Wicca.

Ignorance is bliss, ne?

Satan is a christian invention, witches(wiccans, pagans, etc) don't even believe in the existance of satan.

138 posted on 12/13/2001 5:42:56 AM PST by DaisyCutter
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To: Illbay
Shall I burn him at the stake?

You know what to do to find out. Remember, wood floats and so does a ... duck.

139 posted on 12/13/2001 5:49:28 AM PST by strela
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To: rdavis84; germanshepherd
"I think it's obvious that reading books friendly witchcraft (albeit perhaps not true to "real" witchcraft) is going to make the reader more friendly and open to witchcraft. Even (sometimes especially) if it is just for entertainment."

Well stated.

Sorts like good ol' Walt, eh, with his Bedknobs and Broomsticks and Escape from Witch Mountain and the Sorceror's Apprentice?

140 posted on 12/13/2001 5:53:51 AM PST by mancini
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To: jedediah smith
Well now, THAT was interesting reading all the posts.

I suppose Satan only works by banging people over the head so they can readily distinguish evil and good. Yeah, that's how he works. Subtlety is not his strongsuit. He would never try to appeal to that part of our nature that wants to be powerful and magical, it would be too obvious and we would be on to his tricks.

141 posted on 12/13/2001 5:57:43 AM PST by mancini
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To: rdavis84; jedediah smith
Do you know when this gal started writing these books? The reason I ask is because I happened to catch an old horror movie called "Troll." It was made in 1986 and the kid who learns magic goes by the name of Harry Potter.
142 posted on 12/13/2001 6:01:15 AM PST by mancini
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To: John H K
I never knew that the nuttier of the witchcraft-obsessed types ACTUALLY BELIEVE that witchcraft WORKS..that is, that you REALLY can curse people and do magic with the power of Satan. Of course, believing that it actually works is probably the best advertisement for Satanic witchcraft there is.

Yeah, and if a bunch of kids seeing adults running around freaking out over it/believing in it, of course they are going to do something, if only to irritate the adults (that's what kids like to do it seems).

143 posted on 12/13/2001 6:17:33 AM PST by texlok
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To: mancini
"Do you know when this gal started writing these books?"

I haven't been able to find a really date-specific start point, just "on a long train ride". But an estimate based on quick scanning thru some bio stuff would be around '97-'98. Here's some Bio -----

"The idea that we could have a child who escapes from the confines of the adult world and goes somewhere where he has power, both literally and metaphorically, really appealed to me."

Like that of her own character, Harry Potter, J.K. Rowling's life has the luster of a fairy tale. Divorced, living on public assistance in a tiny Edinburgh flat with her infant daughter, Rowling wrote Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone at a table in a café during her daughter's naps — and it was Harry Potter that rescued her. First, the Scottish Arts Council gave her a grant to finish the book. After its sale to Bloomsbury (UK) and Scholastic Books, the accolades began to pile up. Harry Potter won The British Book Awards Children's Book of the Year, and the Smarties Prize, and rave reviews on both sides of the Atlantic. Book rights have been sold to England, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Greece, Finland, Denmark, Spain and Sweden.

A graduate of Exeter University, a teacher, and then an unemployed single parent, Rowling wrote Harry Potter when "I was very low, and I had to achieve something. Without the challenge, I would have gone stark raving mad." But Rowling has always written; her first book was called "Rabbit." "I was about six, and I haven't stopped scribbling since."

For Rowling, the change in her fortunes has been slightly bewildering. But her daughter has no doubt about her mother's new career: when asked what mommies do, she replies without hesitation, "Mommies write!"

144 posted on 12/13/2001 6:20:39 AM PST by rdavis84
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To: jedediah smith; di_canio_volley; harry_potter; hermoine_granger; jjbrouwer; Pinlighter; Traitain
My fellow Brit freepers I know we are all fed up with Harry Potter but this is so well judge for your self.

re : ... Britain has rampant witchcraft and occult activity, and that the British monarchy are avowed satanists

re : Harry Potter appears to be just one more battle in a long war by Britain and the Olympians on America's (and the world's) Christian worldview.

re : This assault really accelerated with the British export of satanic rock groups to America in the sixties. When we look at the damage they inflicted upon our country by using similar cultural manipulative techniques such as promoting rock concerts/illicit drugs, we must realize that the Harry Potter brainwashing is but yet another even more powerful, satanic attack that we can only resist with a supernatural effort through God.

I never knew we still had it in us

Cheers Tony

145 posted on 12/13/2001 6:31:47 AM PST by tonycavanagh
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To: jedediah smith
Gee, I'm out of town for one day and I get behind on my Potter posts...

A few thoughts:

1. "Voldimore" = Voldemort. Someone else already pointed this out. I'm not sure if the error is in the orginal transcript or the retyping...

2. Therefore, in the world of Harry Potter, the power source of Harry's so-called good magic, and Voldimore's evil magic, is one and the same. It is the same in our world...think it through.

3. J.K. Rawlings, the author of the Harry Potter series - It's J.K. Rowling. Are these people even afraid of spellcheck?

4. Joann Rawlings majored in mythology in Exeter University in England. Every bio I've read (and I've search before based on this comment) says that she majored in French.

5. The actual word 'potter,' if you ask a pagan But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand. Isaiah 64:8

6. There is no right or wrong. Except of course, in that statement.

7. While the reading of Bible-based material is banned in American schools That's a real stretch. Unwelcome? Yes. Banned? Depends...

8. We need to be educated and aware about what is the content of the Harry Potter books That certainly would be helpful.

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I've said on countless threads that I respect the opinion of people who are concerned about Harry Potter and don't want their kids to read the books. But there's a lot of misinformation out there in anti-Potter hysteria.

146 posted on 12/13/2001 6:37:31 AM PST by Ward Smythe
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To: jedediah smith
He wasn't aware that those in Wicca, take great joy out of seducing Christian children into Wicca

The usual lies, lies and more damnable lies from the usual sources.

Some Christians are completely untrustworty.

147 posted on 12/13/2001 8:18:45 AM PST by Da_Shrimp
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To: jedediah smith
What is behind Harry Potter?..."

wrong question it should be who...now we all know the answer to that!

149 posted on 12/13/2001 9:55:35 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: nopardons; ~EagleNebula~
GOD had NOTHING to do with Moses's use if this same trick, which he leared how to do, whilst a boy growing up in the palace. except that GOD told him to do it. Moses's snake ate the others snakes, as snakes are wont to do.

So the word of God is a lie?

Exodus 4:1And Moses answered and said, But, behold, they will not believe me, nor hearken unto my voice: for they will say, The LORD hath not appeared unto thee.
4:2And the LORD said unto him, What [is] that in thine hand? And he said, A rod.
4:3And he said, Cast it on the ground. And he cast it on the ground, and it became a serpent; and Moses fled from before it.
4:4And the LORD said unto Moses, Put forth thine hand, and take it by the tail. And he put forth his hand, and caught it, and it became a rod in his hand:
4:5That they may believe that the LORD God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath appeared unto thee.

perhaps the crucification and resurrection were "tricks " too

150 posted on 12/13/2001 10:04:15 AM PST by RnMomof7
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