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To: Oldeconomybuyer
...systematic discrimination and documents acts of alleged racism in 175 cities in 30 states.

As a white guy, I always wondered how you determine "racism". I mean, people of different races are rude and dismissive of me on a daily bases. If I were black, would I see these daily incidents as evidence of "racism"?

I believe most people see what they expect to see.

13 posted on 12/13/2001 7:09:23 AM PST by SocialMeltdown
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To: SocialMeltdown
SocialMeltdown makes a good point. I'm white and I encounter stupid and rude people everywhere; that's life. The real racists are those who interpret every negative event in their lives as being directed at their race.
60 posted on 12/13/2001 8:24:35 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: SocialMeltdown
I believe most people see what they expect to see.

Interesting what we each see: mafree sees the free market. Do waitresses see tips? and managers? lawyers?

Racial discrimination does exist. To deny its existence is one set of lies. To go to the other extreme and make it a money center for lawyers is ridiculous.

At a Republican dinner, 2/3 of us were seated. I was facing the door with 2 seats left at our table. A friend and precinct captain came in. I waved him over. He asked the man beside the empty chair if that chair was taken. The man already seated tilted the back of the chair against the table, indicating it was taken, when it wasn't. Later he said "I have to work beside them all day and I'll be dammed if I'm going to eat with them." My friend walked away. I don't know what he thought. But 6 of 8 of us at the table would have been happy to have him at our table, due to his intelligent conversation. (I have no knowledge of his table manners but they can't be any worse than mine.)

The top Republican leader backed away from working a nearby table and ended up beside my friend. They started talking. My friend ended up beside the leader's wife at the front table...all by coincidence.

But most people rejected by a racist Republican do not have that coincidence. And then we wonder why they don't vote Republican when they are pro-life, anti-gay, etc.

68 posted on 12/13/2001 8:38:56 AM PST by spintreebob
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To: SocialMeltdown
I believe most people see what they expect to see.

Interesting what we each see: mafree sees the free market. Do waitresses see tips? and managers? lawyers?

Racial discrimination does exist. To deny its existence is one set of lies. To go to the other extreme and make it a money center for lawyers is ridiculous.

At a Republican dinner, 2/3 of us were seated. I was facing the door with 2 seats left at our table. A friend and precinct captain came in. I waved him over. He asked the man beside the empty chair if that chair was taken. The man already seated tilted the back of the chair against the table, indicating it was taken, when it wasn't. Later he said "I have to work beside them all day and I'll be dammed if I'm going to eat with them." My friend walked away. I don't know what he thought. But 6 of 8 of us at the table would have been happy to have him at our table, due to his intelligent conversation. (I have no knowledge of his table manners but they can't be any worse than mine.)

The top Republican leader backed away from working a nearby table and ended up beside my friend. They started talking. My friend ended up beside the leader's wife at the front table...all by coincidence.

But most people rejected by a racist Republican do not have that coincidence. And then we wonder why they don't vote Republican when they are pro-life, anti-gay, etc.

70 posted on 12/13/2001 8:46:25 AM PST by spintreebob
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