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China's Muslim Hui Community (Review of Dilon)
Muslimedia ^ | February 2000 | Leila Juma

Posted on 12/14/2001 9:26:40 PM PST by Hopalong

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1 posted on 12/14/2001 9:26:40 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: super175
FYI.

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

2 posted on 12/14/2001 9:27:34 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: super175
From Muslims in China:


Group  Population (1990)
the Turkic peoples
1 the  Uighur, 7,214,431
2 Kazak, 1,111,718
3 Kyrgyz,    141,549
4 Uzbek,       14,502
5 Tatar         4,873
6 Salar,       87,697
those of Mongol origins
7 Dongxiang     373,872
8 Baoan, (Bonan)       12,212
of Iranian origin
9 the Tajik;        33,538
and of Chinese origin
10 the Hui.   8,602,978
 Total 17,597,370

 

"The largest are the Chinese Hui...who comprise over half of China's Muslim population and are scattered throughout all of China...."


Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

3 posted on 12/14/2001 9:39:46 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: all
Ooops—"Dillon".

Regards to all. S&W R.I.P.

4 posted on 12/14/2001 9:43:11 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: Black Jade, super175
"The irony here is mind-boggling. We have been hearing reports that there are Chinese fighting with the Taliban. Did these reporters bother to get their facts straight and inquire as to whether they were Han Chinese or ethnic Uyghurs?"

Curious "or" there, Black Jade, was it intended widely to be understood as mutually exclusive?

Regards to all. S&W R.I.P.

5 posted on 12/14/2001 9:57:46 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: Hopalong
Hui are Han Chinese. Uighurs are not Han, are Turkish.
6 posted on 12/14/2001 10:08:04 PM PST by tallhappy
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To: tallhappy, super175
Correction, Hui are perhaps best decribed as "Hanized"—since they very early took Chinese wives and have intermarried for centuries, dui bu dui?

Now, if you were looking for your run-of-the-mill ChiCom "Muslim", who'd you think be the best bet?

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

7 posted on 12/14/2001 10:15:59 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: tallhappy
At any rate, you will note from the chart that Uighur or Hui "Muslims" are far from the only choices, no?

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

8 posted on 12/14/2001 10:23:59 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: tallhappy
I spose a stray Uighur here and there'd be possible, but not the best bet, yes?

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

9 posted on 12/14/2001 10:27:13 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: Quix; Zadokite; shaggy eel
Bump.
10 posted on 12/14/2001 10:48:42 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: super175, Pokey78
From Pokey78's Armed al-Qa'eda soldiers holed up in hospital ward:

A DRAMA of high danger and official indifference is unfolding at Kandahar's main hospital, where 10 injured al-Qa'eda fighters are holed up in a ward with hand grenades and pistols, surrounded by other patients.

Full details of the deadlock emerged yesterday, when medical staff told how the Arabs had been admitted without being searched. They refused to have their clothing removed when treated for gunshot wounds and bomb injuries.

Only when one had an X-ray for a pelvic fracture did the hospital staff realise that a grenade was strapped to his thigh. The nine Arabs and one Chinese, who fought for the Taliban before the city fell, are refusing to allow anyone but medical staff into their room.

They say they will blow themselves up if threatened with arrest. Despite acute fears over the safety of patients and staff, no official action has been taken to defuse the situation.

The International Committee of the Red Cross, which funds the surgical department, the new leadership of Afghanistan and the international military forces in the city have yet to step in.

The fighters, along with three relatives, are in a surgical ward of 10 rooms at the 180-bed Mirwais Hospital, also known as the Chinese hospital.

Hmmm—is that nine Arabi and one "Chinese Citizen"? Guess they must have checked his papers if he was an Uighur, hehe.

Beest regards. S&W R.I.P.

11 posted on 12/14/2001 10:59:20 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: tallhappy, super175
"It is these Muslims, ethnically indistinguishable from the rest of the Chinese but with a very distinct cultural and religious tradition that has developed over centuries, which has been studiously maintained despite the aggressive atheism of the communist period, that are known as the Hui, while the non-Muslim Chinese are known as the Han...."

Yep, that there "Han", jes' like your "Chinese," can be a tad ambiguous at times, eh?

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

12 posted on 12/14/2001 11:09:05 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: Hopalong
They say they will blow themselves up if threatened with arrest. Despite acute fears over the safety of patients and staff, no official action has been taken to defuse the situation.

Did they have hostages or are they just holed up with other prisoners?

If the latter, I'd remove the other patients from the building and then let them blow themselves up- with a bit of help, if needed.

It would be interesting to interview the Chinese one, though.

13 posted on 12/14/2001 11:12:08 PM PST by piasa
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To: Lazamataz; spycatcher; OKCSubmariner;piasa; super175;
Arm too short a foot,
Itch an inch or two too far.
Reach with bamboo paw.

Regards to all. S&W R.I.P.

14 posted on 12/15/2001 9:37:10 AM PST by Hopalong
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To: Hopalong
A FORMER MUSLIM PROFESSOR ON WHY HE LEFT ISLAM (click on picture)


The Hardcover edition.


15 posted on 12/15/2001 12:12:36 PM PST by Cacique
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To: Cacique, super175
I'd be much more interested in a more timely, pertinent tome, preferably written in Chinese and published in Beijing Romanization, entitled, say:

Why I Am Not A Chinese Communist.

Know any prospective authors?

Best regards. S&W R.I.P.

16 posted on 12/15/2001 12:21:55 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: Cacique, super175
Ooops—"published in simplified characters."

BR and an English translation I spose too, for the ChiComs' American media, academic, and other sympathizers perhaps, but otherwise superfluous.

Regards to all. S&W R.I.P.

17 posted on 12/15/2001 12:33:33 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: super175; color_tear; tallhappy
From China's Islamic Connection:

After the Communist takeover in 1949, Mao Zedung set about dividing the Muslims into nationalities so they would identify with their 'ethnic' origin and not their 'Muslim' identity.

According to population statistics of 1936, the then Kuomingtang Republic of China had an estimated 48,104,240 Muslims. After the introduction of Mao's policies, this number was reduced to ten million. No official Chinese explanation has ever been given for this apparent disappearance of around 38 million Muslims. The mass extermination and destruction of the Muslims of China pales before the much publicized plight of a handful of Tibetan monks or the democrats of Tiannaman Square.

Aside from the physical annihilation, Muslims have been subjected to a constant attack on their Islamic identity especially during the so-called Cultural Revolution (1966-76). For instance, posters which appeared in Peking (later to be called Beijing) in 1966, openly called for the abolition of Islamic practices. Muslims were also barred from learning their written language which incorporated the Arabic script and was influenced by Arabic, Turkish and Farsi. This change was critical as it distanced Muslims from the Arabic language, the language of the Qur'an and their Islamic aspirations. During this era many Mosques were closed down and waqf properties were confiscated.

Regartds to all. S&W R.I.P.

18 posted on 12/15/2001 1:22:43 PM PST by Hopalong
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To: Hopalong,super175,Wallaby,LSJohn,BlueDogDemo,roughrider,Judge Parker,PhiKapMom,Nita Nupress,Nanci
Good Post!

Bin Laden sold/gave two US cruise missiles to China in 1999 that survivied the US cruise missle attack on Afghaistan in August 1998.

Bin Laden was in China last year just over the border (literally within a few miles) from Afghanistan meeting with a Bulgarian businessman trying to buy fissile materials.

CHina has tech espionage and intell and terror cells throughout the US who work closely with AlQaeda and other ME terror group cells. The cells use Chinese students attending Universities. On cell group of college students from Oklahoma State University stole/paid for the JSTARS look down radar from the US at Tinker AFB near OKC around 1994-1995. Senator Don Nickles of OK briefed George Tenet of the CIA last year on this but Tenet did nothing adequate about the problem.

Believe it or not the Israeli aircraft industry had a contract with the CHinese last year to install AWACS style radars in Russian aircraft that Israel was modifying for the Chinese. This was stopped last year in Israel by the US government once they found out that Charles Smith's stories on the subject were true.

Bush senior gave the US neutron bomb technology to the Chinese and French about ten years ago in an act of great treason.

19 posted on 12/15/2001 2:37:05 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
"Bush senior gave the US neutron bomb technology to the Chinese and French about ten years ago in an act of great treason."

"gave the US neutron bomb technology to the Chinese"
Hmmmm. How did I miss this. Can you expound on this please, thanks.

20 posted on 12/15/2001 4:15:14 PM PST by ChaseR
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