Skip to comments.The Ultimate Creation vs. Evolution Resource [12th Revision]
Posted on 12/17/2001 12:32:04 PM PST by Junior
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|Working Theory of Evolution (contributed by Physicist)|
|At some finite time in the past, life began somehow. (How it began is beyond the scope of the theory, but the observational evidence strongly suggests that only one such beginning on Earth has left descendants to the present day.) As life reproduces and multiplies, mutations occur with small but finite probabilities, causing new genes to be added, and creating new alleles of existing genes. The different alleles confer different traits upon their owners, rendering them more or less successful in coping with their environments. The organisms that are more successful in coping with their environments consequently have a slightly greater probability of passing their genes to the next generation of organisms than do the less successful organisms. This causes allele frequencies to change over time.
Because mutations are random according to their probabilities, there is essentially a zero probability that two non-interbreeding populations will get the same set of mutations. (Even if they somehow do, there is essentially a zero probability that the frequencies of the alleles will end up the same in both populations.) The alleles and new genes available in each population will therefore diverge, with the result that the populations become genetically more distant from each other over time. Eventually, the two populations will become genetically so distant that they lose the ability to produce viable hybrids between them. This is the cause of the origin of species.
|Working Theory of Creation|
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that [it was] good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. 6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which [were] under the firmament from the waters which [were] above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day. 9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry [land] appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, [and] herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed [was] in itself, after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day. 14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: [he made] the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that [it was] good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. 20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day. 24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good. 26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, [it was] very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
|Creation vs. Evolution Sites|
"Weird" Theories, Miscellaneous
|Free Republic Creation vs. Evolution Threads|
|Appendix I: The Current List of Evolution Deniers (PatrickHenry)|
|Appendix III: Evolutionist's guide to creationist language (PatrickHenry)|
How about a hit counter? Surely this is one of the most valuable resources on F.R.
Man learned to talk
Man began to tell stories
Man began to speculate
Moses saw a need to get a tribe of Jews to behave, stop bickering, and feel good about themselves.
He came down from the mountain with a set of commonsense rules of order for the adults and said God chose them.
He added the stories of Genesis to entertain the kids.
He assigned all the causes to God because as a practical matter you can't argue with someone you can't sense; end of subject.
One problem; he never counted upon the long list of gatherers of the flock who would follow and try to convince the sheep they had direct commumnication with God.
Face it Creationists, religion is one of the biggest rackets going.
I will say that the moral ideas encompassed in Judeo-Christian beliefs serve a useful need. Ten commandments beats the tens of thousands of laws with which governmments regulate. I am deeply disappointed that Creationists go through Hell to dismiss the science of evolution. Maybe a talk with Jimmy Swaggert or Jim Baker makes more sense to them than does an examination into a scientific idea. I am heartened to have heard the Pope, himself, accepted scientific inquiry into the Big Bang. Though, he warned about inquiring back further than the first moment.
Firstly, it gives a pretty good idea of the evolution of this resource (pardon the pun).
Secondly, there are a number of links on the earlier threads which do not appear on the later threads because a certain person complained. One can still access those links via the earlier threads even though they do not appear in the later versions.
Somehow I think your point proves the case for evolutionalry theory. Now that we have evolved to the point where we recognize our surroundings as information and we (really you) ascribe this intelligence to a God who is a programmer.
Every time we look for God, we see him in our image though pretending humility, we say it the other way around.