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All I Want for Christmas...Parents, You May Be Surprised
Momscape ^ | Linda Sharp

Posted on 12/18/2001 6:23:36 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: r9etb
Do the history on how the KJV was translated. We have enough "revisionist" history going on in our textbooks; no need to explain that the Bible has been slotted to become "user friendly". Hey, how about just trusting me on this? (after you verify)
41 posted on 12/18/2001 8:09:08 AM PST by widowithfoursons
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To: SAMWolf
I know folks have their opinions about this article..but I'm looking at it as a reminder to be *real* to your kiddos...take *time* and *be there*.

I know moms who do exactly what the mom in the article did. They meet with the same reaction of the kiddos. Public or private school..no difference. Gosh..I actually know a homeschool mom who's too busy for her kids! We all need to step back and determine our priorities...then act on them.

42 posted on 12/18/2001 8:10:26 AM PST by homeschool mama
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To: homeschool mama
Thanks :) .. though I'm blushing < grin > ..
43 posted on 12/18/2001 8:25:08 AM PST by Twins613
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To: All
My first thoughts on reading this article was "Too syrupy" and "Great job of indoctrination by the anti-smoking Nazi schools".

But I thought the point of the article made it worth posting. The material things are not as important as the time we spend with our children.

44 posted on 12/18/2001 8:25:47 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: r9etb
#2 especially #2. Kids communicate by touch, and ever since I can remember, I am mauled by kids. They love me and think I am a toy to be used and abused. It is amazing the looks I get from relatives when they watch me get down on the carpet before Christmas dinner and get involved in a huge Lego project, or go outside in the summer, to pitch the ball to a young little leaguer. So remember people,(this probably doesn't include most FReeple) kids need adults to play with them, it gives them permission to be happy.
45 posted on 12/18/2001 8:26:31 AM PST by jeremiah
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To: homeschool mama
We all need to step back and determine our priorities...then act on them.

Maybe some of us in the "we all" get tired of having to listen to do-gooders always trying to tell everyone else how to live, how to raise their kids, how to eat, etc...

Just because you felt the article served as a reminder to you, doesn't mean everyone else needed such a reminder.

46 posted on 12/18/2001 8:26:48 AM PST by zandtar
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To: widowithfoursons
Do the history on how the KJV was translated. We have enough "revisionist" history going on in our textbooks; no need to explain that the Bible has been slotted to become "user friendly". Hey, how about just trusting me on this? (after you verify)

Sorry, ma. The KJV has translation problems, just as does any other version. Moreover, it has serious readership difficulties due to the changes in English over the past 400 years. In addition, the newer translations tend to consider a lot more source material than was used in the KJV.

Beyond that, by condemning all but the KJV, you're implying that all biblical scholars since the time of King James are a bunch of revisionist liars -- not a terribly useful outlook on life, not to mention highly inaccurate.

My advice to you is to look at as many different translations as you can -- often the ambiguities in a passage can be resolved by seeing how various scholars have interpreted it. Here is a good place to read up to 11 translations (including the KJV) at the click of a button.

47 posted on 12/18/2001 8:29:08 AM PST by r9etb
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To: NittanyLion
To the article's point, asking these children about nonmaterial possessions gets at the matter of what they need more than what they'd want at first thought.

That isn't what the title of the article implies. You'll notice the article also mentions what the children HOPED would be under the Christmas tree. The items listed in the article did not appear until _after_ the writer decided to put restrictive conditionals on the answers.

Lets suppose Mom and Dad quit smoking and give each kid a hug as their only presents for Christmas this year. Meanwhile, Bobby and Susie next door got Transformers, Barbie, Bicycles, etc... Do you honestly think the kid is going to say "Gee, thats swell, thanks for the hug, this is the best Christmas ever!".

My money's on the kid would be extremely depressed.

48 posted on 12/18/2001 8:34:02 AM PST by zandtar
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To: zandtar
I guess your homepage says it all.
49 posted on 12/18/2001 8:36:44 AM PST by d4now
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To: 2Jedismom; Lizavetta
So............I'm not the only one who failed to shed a tear of shame or guilt? Or to recognize the rather smug self-righteousness buried in this piece?

ALL I need is one more Super Mommy with waaaaaaaaaay too much time on her hands telling me what I'm doing wrong and how I'm screwing up my kids' lives. Sheesh.

I'll just tell her this: Look, sweetheart. I'm raising 7 kids. Sometimes you HAVE to say "just a minute" or "hold your horses". I will NOT drop what I'm doing every time one of my kids wants my attention............or I'd be "dropping" more than a seagull at Coney Island. Too many parents I know cater to the whims of their little darling........and I mean EVERY whim...........and they produce self-centered little monsters as a result. That sound cold? It's a fact.

I don't have to be told to hug my kids or teach them things. I smoke and they still love me...........and they don't stink of smoke, either.

My wife's been homeschooling our kids for over 18 years. Let's see Super Mommy do that..........

Oh well, I'll climb off of my cynical soap box........

50 posted on 12/18/2001 8:38:57 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: r9etb
Then go to the Amplified Bible for direct translation. I am not giving you my own opinion. I am merely stating that the Lord gave me a directive on this. I do not argue with Him. He always wins.
51 posted on 12/18/2001 8:41:15 AM PST by widowithfoursons
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To: RightOnline
If you scroll down to the bottom of the article, you'll see some URL's to other ones she's written. Next one listed is "Fall back in love with your spouse". Lets see, first she had to be reminded to pay attention to her children. Before that she had to fall back in love with her spouse. Sounds like she's got some serious issues.
52 posted on 12/18/2001 8:43:38 AM PST by zandtar
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To: zandtar
Lets see, first she had to be reminded to pay attention to her children. Before that she had to fall back in love with her spouse. Sounds like she's got some serious issues.

Give it a rest, guy. The lady gets paid to write on "family issues." What do you expect -- treatises on superstring theory?

53 posted on 12/18/2001 8:55:13 AM PST by r9etb
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To: zandtar
Lets suppose Mom and Dad quit smoking and give each kid a hug as their only presents for Christmas this year. Meanwhile, Bobby and Susie next door got Transformers, Barbie, Bicycles, etc... Do you honestly think the kid is going to say "Gee, thats swell, thanks for the hug, this is the best Christmas ever!".

My money's on the kid would be extremely depressed.

I don't think her point is "no toys, only hugs". This is a way to remind parents how important paying attention to thir kids can be.

54 posted on 12/18/2001 9:41:38 AM PST by NittanyLion
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To: RightOnline
How dare you be a better parent than someone else? And how dare you smoke and not apologize? Who the hell do you think you are? (Feelin' guilty yet?)
55 posted on 12/18/2001 10:18:20 AM PST by Lizavetta
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To: japaneseghost
That part leapt right out at me, too. Sweats and a ballcap to stay in class with your child? I wonder if she even bothers to shower in between all her quality Mommy time.
56 posted on 12/18/2001 10:22:52 AM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
Like doesn't every little kid want to say, "My mommy is the most beautiful mommy in the world"?
57 posted on 12/18/2001 10:30:01 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: japaneseghost
Most children will generally think that anyhow but it should also be a part of her job as a mom to teach her kids what self-respect is all about and a woman wearing a ballcap in school (or anywhere other than the ball field in my opinion) is not going to get that point across. It is just plain sloppy looking.
58 posted on 12/18/2001 10:32:22 AM PST by riley1992
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To: SAMWolf
Bump!!
59 posted on 12/18/2001 10:32:37 AM PST by EdReform
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To: RightOnline
I smoke and they still love me...........and they don't stink of smoke, either.

Would you like to put that to the test? Ask each and every one of your kids (not the baby, of course) if they like it when you smoke. If they say they don't like it, would you stop? If they asked you to stop, would you?

P.S. They DO smell of smoke. You just can't smell it because YOU smell of smoke, too.

60 posted on 12/18/2001 10:38:25 AM PST by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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