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Lord of the Rings Post-view Thread
Self | 12/19/01

Posted on 12/19/2001 1:16:53 PM PST by NYS_Eric

Please no flames for starting another LOTR thread, but I don't see an active one right now for Freepers who just came back from viewing the picture today. I just got back and am very interested in everyone else's impressions.

My first thought while seeing it was just how perfect the casting was. Dang, could there have been a better Aragorn, Gandalf, Legolas, or Saruman?

Merry and Pippen might have been portrayed as a touch too oafish just to get a couple of cheap laughs, but guess what-- it worked. They had me laughing quite a bit. They worked very well together.

And the balrog? The CGI special effects techie who came up with that should get bonus pay. I still can't wind down yet from this movie. Never felt I got more for my money in a very long time.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
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To: Boxsford
It's a book referred to in the book. So not really a real book.
61 posted on 12/19/2001 3:20:41 PM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: JoeSchem
Odd that they can sing for years and years, then lose their voice when it comes to an apology.

They owe you, personally, an apology?

62 posted on 12/19/2001 3:24:06 PM PST by CubicleGuy
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To: SoDak
I would love to the acting and writing get recognized, but I fear the awards will be limited to art design and special effects.

Sean Bean has long been a favorite for his work on British TV as Mellors in Lady Chatterly, the officer up from the ranks in theSharpe series and a caddish husband in A Woman's Guide to Adultery. It was nice to see him on the big screen playing something other than an arch villian like 006 in Goldeneye and Kostner in Don't Say a Word)

63 posted on 12/19/2001 3:24:57 PM PST by The Iron Duke
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To: FreedomPoster
My 10 yo daughter caught those. She is still laughing at that one in particular.
64 posted on 12/19/2001 3:29:03 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: FreedomPoster
And Gandalf the third.
65 posted on 12/19/2001 3:32:32 PM PST by The Shootist
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To: NYS_Eric
Well, not that I've had some time to get the blood moving. I really did like it. The story was solid, the acting great. Really, the entire narrative at the start which basically covers the Hobbit was unnecessary. It's just little annoying things like reuse of scenic shots and lingering too long (boats going through the entrance, a brick-by-brick or column-by-column introduction to this or that location) which made the film seem very long and probably longer since I didn't know where it would end having not read the book. Maybe you wouldn't have to pull 30, 40, 50 minutes just snip here and there so it doesn't drag. I imagine it would be better for me on a second viewing. Hmm, maybe I will go see it again.
66 posted on 12/19/2001 3:56:44 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Also a brief essay on Tolkien's politics, as opposed to his religion, up here, on my website. Some of you might find it interesting (and some of you have probably already seen me post it :)
67 posted on 12/19/2001 4:08:02 PM PST by Anotherpundit
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To: JoeSchem
Yours is certainly a hopeful and positive "take," and I hope it happens that way for many.

As a BTW on Amy Grant, I've had your identical perspective. But there's a FReeper who seems to have some inside info, who has assured me most emphatically that she was the wronged party, that she put up with and worked with for a long time, and that her remarriage is a pure and good thing. I only report the news. I said that the least I'd have to say is she certainly handled the reporting of it wretchedly.

Dan

68 posted on 12/19/2001 4:47:36 PM PST by BibChr
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To: VRWCmember
Thanks for thinking of me. That was interesting. P'raps you should post it!

Dan

69 posted on 12/19/2001 4:50:57 PM PST by BibChr
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To: BibChr
It's a great movie. And because it isn't a typical Hollywood movie, there's going to be great seating when I see it the second and third time.
70 posted on 12/19/2001 4:58:52 PM PST by qwertyz
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To: BibChr
dont let Ian Mckellan get you down on this movie - the movie is awesome - the Actor becomes Gandalf, IS Gandalf. see Jonah Goldbergs review for more on this.

for me what tools are used to tell the story are much less important than the story itself. Go see it. don't delay. Movies that show this kind of stark moral clarity must be encouraged by the us Christians.

All the actors are extremely well cast and I especially took a fondness to Legolas - when you go see the movie watch his archery! it is breathtaking.

the only Actor that put me off was the agent from Matrix playing Elrond. I swear he used the same voice intonations for both movies. must be his Serious Dramatic Scene voice.

Go see it. Now.

71 posted on 12/19/2001 5:36:19 PM PST by delapaz
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To: Thornwell Simons
Great link. Thanks. He hated "the state" as a concept.
72 posted on 12/19/2001 5:54:08 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: jrherreid; HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton; billbears; ObfusGate; austinTparty; Texas2step; jrherreid...
ping

Just got back from seeing it! I will not be sleeping tonight - what an incredible movie!!

73 posted on 12/19/2001 7:01:28 PM PST by ecurbh
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To: ecurbh
what an incredible movie!!

I trust you are not going to leave it at that, so I wont freak out... You are going to compose a few more thoughts than THAT aren't you????

74 posted on 12/19/2001 7:24:36 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
We saw the first showing of it today. Beautiful.

TLOTR:FOTR aahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, immersion in a dream, reading bliss materialized.

Now to see it again and again, to own it hold it freeze each frame and bathe in it ...

Back to Middle-earth :-) aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh thank You God

75 posted on 12/19/2001 7:25:28 PM PST by Cascadians
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To: NYS_Eric
Bump!! - And Eric... you inspired a counter-(NO VIEW) thread... Well done!-Live on the edge! :~D
76 posted on 12/19/2001 7:41:59 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ecurbh
OMG---WHAT A FILM!!! I saw the 12:30pm showing... left the theater and ended up chatting for about 20 minutes with Harry Knowles of aintitcoolnews.com. It was great to be able to gush to someone who is so obviously a film lover, who although he understands the process and the construction of films, is still not someone who endeavors to impress us with a jaded viewpoint.

My notes: INCREDIBLE casting, absolutely spot-on. The special effects were so seamless and believable that you did not have to work at suspension of disbelief... so much to praise. I'll have to sleep on it to be able to give a real review... :^) all in all: FANTASTIC!!!

77 posted on 12/19/2001 7:46:03 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: NYS_Eric
The movie is amazing and stunning.

I had qualms about some moments of the script writer's interpretation throughout my viewing. Yet somehow - when the film ended - my differences all seemed trivial. It was still the same story I remember. It spoke to me the same way. Some of the moments were so perfectly translated from book to screen it was sublime.

The casting and acting were superb. I'm still trying to decide whether McKellen's Gandalf, Mortenson's Aragorn, or Astin's Samwise was the best performance. The others weren't far behind. Even the unnamed extras were extremely good in this.

The special effects were so good you rarely noticed them. A few rough edges appeared (some landscape scenes around Isildur, part of the cave troll sequence). But the only thing that made those few moments of less-than-perfection noticable was the utter perfection of the rest of the effects in the film. The main effect on everyone's mind - hobbit sizing - was absolutely seemless.

The downside: Merry and Pippin were a bit more frequently comical than I expected. But they had their moments of seriousness, so they weren't portrayed as utter clowns. I wasn't terribly fond of Cate Blanchett's Galadriel. She seemed as powerful and fey as she ought to, but not nearly as charismatic and beautiful as Tolkein described. Fun characters from the book (Fatty Arbuckle, Farmer Maggot, Bombadil and Goldberry) were entirely missing. And you really missed the sense of distance. Everything felt compressed, both in time and space.

Yet despite the minor flaws I noticed, this is easily the best film I've seen in years. It's something worth seeing more than one at full price while still in the theatres. I can't wait to see the sequel.

78 posted on 12/19/2001 7:48:03 PM PST by Snuffington
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To: newzjunkey
I think I understand your point about the long scenery shots... except, for us geeks, it won't be like watching someone else's vacation slides... It will be like watching our own vacation slides... full of memories of those places, and eager to revisit every detail from our travels.
79 posted on 12/19/2001 7:55:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: jrherreid; HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton; billbears; ObfusGate; austinTparty; Texas2step; jrherreid...
You are going to compose a few more thoughts than THAT aren't you????

Had to take time to calm down and settle my thoughts.

Most everything has been said already about this film, but here are a few primary impressions:

First of all, the casting is perfect. There were no weak links in the performances. Each character is almost exactly like I had pictured from the book. My favorites were Orlando Bloom as Legolas - "elvish" is the only way to describe the way he moved and carried himself - and Sean Bean as the tortured and conflicted, yet proud Boromir.

I loved the "Flight to the Ford" sequence. This has always been one of my favorite moments from the book - Frodo facing down the Nazgul alone - and I kind of regretted that it was being changed in the film. But once I saw it, I got chills down my spine. And the flood was so spot-on to my mental images, I almost wet my pants.

I was glad I had brought some Kleenex. Yes, this man is not ashamed to admit that this film made me weep, particularly during these scenes:

I am still on an emotional high after this, and will have to go see the movie several more times to fully absorb the experience. The long years of waiting are finally over, and were completely worth every moment.

FRODO LIVES!

Only 363 days to go until The Two Towers is released!
80 posted on 12/19/2001 7:58:09 PM PST by ecurbh
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