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To: rmlew
I consider Pat to be a right-wing populist who has flirted with anti-Semetism.

-- I agree.

However, he is not a Nazi.

-- Again, I agree. I never said PJB was a Nazi; I said there were some uncanny parallels between his rhetoric and Nazi propaganda,

There is a huge difference between noting the empirical fact that population is declining in Europe (and Japan) and calling for genocide.

-- In this speech, Gross does far more than simply note the empirical fact that the the population is declining in Europe. And he never specifically mentions the Jews - or genocide - though he makes a pretty strong pitch for eugenics, which implies forced euthanasia, and as we now know, much more.

My point is that PJB's rhetoric is hardly new; it can be traced back to Oswald Spengler, and Spengler's arguments were adopted by the Nazis. In other words, this rhetoric carries alot of baggage. This baggage, in itself, does not invalidate the thesis; however, when you consider PJB's previous flirtations with anti-Semitism, a red flag should go up.

Pat is a poor choice for a spokesman on the issue. Pat is a demagogue and racist.

-- Again, we agree. Reasonable people can honestly disagree over this issue. PJB is not an honest person - he is a dangerous demagogue.

36 posted on 01/05/2002 2:18:47 PM PST by Who is George Salt?
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To: Who is George Salt?
-- Thomas Jefferson, to W. Short, Oct. 31, 1819

Apparently, I'm in good company

Since Jefferson was a well known slave owner should we reasonably draw other parallels?

45 posted on 01/05/2002 4:09:46 PM PST by UberVernunft
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