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To: Tokhtamish
Fascinating how the original poster equates "black conservatism" with a willingness to repudiate "civil rights", i.e. his own people's struggle for justice. So obviously aside from the most profoundly self-hating there will never be any number of what he would define as "black conservatives".

You can read the post that way, but I think it misses the intent of the poster. I would chalk it up to bad phrasing, however. I believe his (her?), intent was to repudiate the civil rights movement for the way in which it has been corrupted and diverted from its original, legitimate aims.

Originally, by the way, blacks were a staunch Republican voting bloc, which is one of the reasons why they were so thoroughly disenfranchised in areas under Democrat control. It wasn't until the Great Depression that blacks became a Democrat bloc.

19 posted on 01/05/2002 7:29:16 AM PST by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
Hey- wait a minute - it was even later that blacks became a Democratic sure thing. Eisenhower still managed to get more black votes than the Democrats (Granted- democrats in the south didn't let their blacks vote.) But even as late the Nixon/McGovern race- Nixon still managed to garner 40% of the black vote.
32 posted on 01/05/2002 9:08:57 AM PST by Burkeman1
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To: Gumlegs; innocentbystander
It wasn't until the Great Depression that blacks became a Democrat bloc.

Off the top of my head, admittedly, but I think this is wrong. Blacks only started switching to the Democratic Party in the mid sixties. The civil rights bill of '64 received the support of a large majority of Republican legistlators, and only got enough Democrat votes to pass with energetic and determined arm twisting by LBJ.

Algore's daddy, btw, was one of the major opponents of the Civil Rights Act in the senate. (Algore's revisionism on this subject is unadulterated Barbra Steisand.) Speaking of algore, and black conservatives, I had a lot of fun during the last election poking my nose into the bulliten boards at Black Entertainment Television's website. Our own innocentbystander (I assume it was) did a maginficent job there of "representing".

The really amazing thing (to me) at BET was the widespread perception even among black algore supporters that prince al had some kind of problem with blacks, at least at the visceral, personal level. There was discussion, for instance, of the candidates' appearances on Oprah, noting that Bush kissed Oprah but Gore did not. There was even a legend, which seemed to be generally considered as plausible, that Gore rushed backstage immediately after the interview to wash his hands. Algore's laughing at a racist joke by his father during his first presidential campaign was not forgotten, and few argued with Sheila Jackson Lee's '99 claim that algore had a "Low Negro Tolerance Level".

By contrast, and despite determined propaganda by the NAACP and crew, few seemed to perceive Bush as racist; but they still intended to vote for LNTL Gore. It was really pretty amazing.

130 posted on 01/08/2002 2:35:31 PM PST by Stultis
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