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To: buaya
I agree with most except:

10 points for each claim that quantum mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence)

I am not alone as a scientist and engineer to point out that if a theory requires as one of its foundation elements a probability function anywhere in its defining equations, then the necessary science behind the hypothesis is "incomplete" and unknowns exist that may extend and revise the current theory. Using statistical physics to prove natural science is problematic - it allows one to create good working guidance for experiments and even engineering but it does not mean that one knows (completely) what one is talking about. It does signify that one (including most quantum theory adherents) wants to believe that the work is done and understood when it may only be a parlor-trick. The evidence against QT is that it requires two levels of reality and physics when a simpler explanation (not discovered yet) should permit physical laws to be enforced at both the subatomic and macro (our) world levels simultaneously. Do I qualify?

4 posted on 01/10/2002 11:17:12 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: epluribus_2
Crackpot.....and don't call me a NAZI.
6 posted on 01/10/2002 11:23:14 AM PST by francisandbeans
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To: epluribus_2
I am not alone as a scientist and engineer to point out that if a theory requires as one of its foundation elements a probability function anywhere in its defining equations, then the necessary science behind the hypothesis is "incomplete" and unknowns exist that may extend and revise the current theory.

That was a viable position until Bell's Inequality came along. All possible local hidden variable models have been disproven by experiment. If quantum mechanics isn't complete, we can at least say with confidence that it is as complete a model as physical reality will permit.

17 posted on 01/10/2002 12:05:19 PM PST by Physicist
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To: epluribus_2
Do I qualify?

Well, you get 10 points.

20 posted on 01/10/2002 12:16:27 PM PST by OBAFGKM
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To: epluribus_2
Do I qualify?

What's your point. Quantum theory has always been regarded wit horror by those who best understand it. In the meantime, nearly everything you touch that uses electricity has some part that could not have been conceived or designed without quantum theory.

I find it odd that for thousands of years philosophers argued monism vs dualism, and now we have numbers to prove that both views of reality are true at the same time.

26 posted on 01/10/2002 12:25:02 PM PST by js1138
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To: epluribus_2
Congrats on your 10 points. Well deserved.
27 posted on 01/10/2002 12:27:57 PM PST by RightWhale
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