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To: IronJack
There's not a lot to elaborate on, especially the latter. I know for fact that some whites have truly been hurt by certain affirmative action programs, whereas I can only think of one or two jobs I may not have gotten just because I'm black, and that's a guess. I still went on and did fine in the job market.

Also, I've never been robbed, assaulted, or threatened physically due to white bigotry, but a lot of whites have suffered that from blacks. In general, whites don't verbally assault blacks in public the way some blacks do it to some whites. A couple of times I had to tell the black person (they were strangers) that they'd gone way over the top and to stop acting that way.

Remember, though, my experiences are just about me personally- don't take that to mean that all blacks have it "made in the shade" on the race thing these days. We do still carry the effects of being slaves and legal second-class citizens for all but the last 35 years of our existence here.

54 posted on 01/12/2002 6:43:18 PM PST by mafree
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To: mafree
I know for fact that some whites have truly been hurt by certain affirmative action programs,

Affirmative action hurts blacks too ---I have a couple of black friends who are extremely qualified in their jobs, have all the education and then some that the job required but had people assume they only got hired because of that. People saying things like "aren't you thankful for affirmative action" which really burned them because that wasn't how they got the job.

56 posted on 01/12/2002 6:48:05 PM PST by FITZ
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To: mafree
Thank you for the measured, intelligent response. It is refreshing to hear an INDIVIDUAL'S story, rather than the usual collectivist catechism.
57 posted on 01/12/2002 6:51:29 PM PST by IronJack
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To: mafree
Thank you AGAIN ma'am for your insightful comments.
103 posted on 01/13/2002 6:45:37 AM PST by Neets
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